Anyone hear anything on Bryan Haines to Penn State?

[Tammany Hall]

But how much more would they spend for a DC than IU knowing his HR assets to the HOOSIERS? If they offer an additional $3-400k IU would be stupid to not match or better.

I don’t think they can offer materially more than us, our assistants pool is huge. That part of our program is top-10 or better. Awesome.

 

[Bowlmania]

Obviously...any sort of sign that Haines isn't leaving.

And we're a long way away from not being "behind" Michigan, OSU, and PSU, in many ways. I really only care about wins and losses, but those programs are bigger in almost every way. We're inherently "behind" them on a lot of things, and will continue to be, for quite some time.

What are the signs that Haines is leaving?

Bullshit as to the second paragraph.

 

[Tammany Hall]

There are, and will continue to be, huge efforts to eliminate the NIL "collectives" once Rev Share goes online. It will be marketed as an attempt to bring "fairness" to the process. Rev Share will provide the "pay for play" money. NIL will revert back to what its original intent was, which is players getting compensated for people and/or companies using their name, image, or likeness.

I think it'll actually get us back to a much less even playing field.

That would be nice, but are OSU, TX, Oregon, etc. going to give up their big NIL advantages? I can’t see them doing that.

 

[Bowlmania]

Chatter from the IU athletic dept, I usually hear it from IU media people I chat with sometimes. It’s hard to find great NIL numbers.

Look at PSU’s roster and ours. Those players cost a lot more.

I’m not being critical of IU, I could not be happier with the progress made. We just aren’t on the same footing as Penn State yet, which is totally fine.

We're about $40 million behind them in annual revenue, but that gap is becoming less significant.

Here's a link that supports my post #33. Gotta get back to work. Have a good weekend.

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Collectives – Big Ten Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

nil-ncaa.com

 

[Tammany Hall]

We're about $40 million behind them in annual revenue, but that gap is becoming less significant.

Here's a link that supports my post #33. Gotta get back to work. Have a good weekend.

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Collectives – Big Ten Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

nil-ncaa.com

For example, Oregon’s number is wrong. Half ours goes to bball. Its more complex that this, but you can take it or leave it.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

There are, and will continue to be, huge efforts to eliminate the NIL "collectives" once Rev Share goes online. It will be marketed as an attempt to bring "fairness" to the process. Rev Share will provide the "pay for play" money. NIL will revert back to what its original intent was, which is players getting compensated for people and/or companies using their name, image, or likeness.

I think it'll actually get us back to a much less even playing field.

it would just go back to being under the table.

 

[IUNorth]

We're about $40 million behind them in annual revenue, but that gap is becoming less significant.

Here's a link that supports my post #33. Gotta get back to work. Have a good weekend.

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Collectives – Big Ten Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

nil-ncaa.com

I strongly believe picking most schools numbers is like grabbing smoke.

Phil Knight has already said their budget is "unlimited". Yet Oregon has a reported "number".

Dave Portnoy and Larry Ellenson went and got Bryce Underwood. There have been reported numbers, but I very strongly believe that its probably a much larger scope and number than what's being reported.

There isn't a set amount of money most teams are working with. There's a general capacity, that will ebb and flow based on the amount of high dollar kids that schools can get interested in them.

UConn's basketball number changed when McNeeley became available and potentially interested, they didn't take money from others to pay for him. Duke, when they signed Malach and Kneuppel, and Flagg then became an option...that number skyrocketed for them.

I guess gauging the collective numbers are a decent way to compare programs with each other. But again, when it comes down to actually landing the impact guys or not, that number doesn't really mean much of anything.

 

[IUNorth]

What are the signs that Haines is leaving?

Bullshit as to the second paragraph.

No clue? My point was maybe those guys choosing to return is a sign he's coming back.

IU has taken massive steps forward the last 12 months. But you don't have to be unrealistic about where we still actually stand, to recognize that. And we can still be CFP/Natty levels of competitive, on the field, and still be well behind schools like PSU in many ways.

As much as we'd all love it, you can't erase decades of neglect and apathy with 1 magical season. Cig has a new challenge ahead of him, and that's keeping IU at or near the top.

 

[OpenWheels]

If we're in the middle of NIL combined with revenue share in football, I think with Cig we will have regularly good teams, with the once in awhile big year.

After decades of mostly quite poor football that works for me!

Maybe it won't keep all the assistants all the time, but it looks like a pretty lucrative place to coach now as well, with the opportunity to have great players to coach.
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[YOTHN]

If we're in the middle of NIL combined with revenue share in football, I think with Cig we will have regularly good teams, with the once in awhile big year.

After decades of mostly quite poor football that works for me!

Maybe it won't keep all the assistants all the time, but it looks like a pretty lucrative place to coach now as well, with the opportunity to have great players to coach.
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If coach can keep winning at a high level, IU fans will turn out. The end result will be higher ticket prices to catch up on ticket earnings or they will need to expand to accommodate the rise in fan support. The ticket revenue shortage IU experiences when compared to the larger more established programs, is one of the larger impacts. Not to mention, the more fans you have coming to games, the more you make in parking, concessions, and merchandise sales. In either case, they need to keep winning.

 

[Tammany Hall]

If we can get enough corporate interest to make suites a viable ROI that would be a great way to boost revenue. I would guess our stadium capacity doesn't get too much bigger from where it is today, but suites can really juice gameday revenue. I69 now makes Bloomington an easier trip for all the Indy and surrounding area businesses...

 

[TominDallas]

What confuses me is how many coaches this guys loses. Also, outside of Manny Diaz, who was already a high level coach, none is his assistants have gotten head coaching jobs.

Good points...

 

[IUNorth]

If we can get enough corporate interest to make suites a viable ROI that would be a great way to boost revenue. I would guess our stadium capacity doesn't get too much bigger from where it is today, but suites can really juice gameday revenue. I69 now makes Bloomington an easier trip for all the Indy and surrounding area businesses...

There were some thoughts in an article about the new Northwestern Football stadium that talked about how a model for new college football stadium construction will be in the 30-40K seat capacities, with more ways to increase revenue, like luxury suites, being concert friendly, concourse amenities, etc... They referred to it as the "model" going forward, replacing the monster 80+k seat stadiums.

 

[Tammany Hall]

There were some thoughts in an article about the new Northwestern Football stadium that talked about how a model for new college football stadium construction will be in the 30-40K seat capacities, with more ways to increase revenue, like luxury suites, being concert friendly, concourse amenities, etc... They referred to it as the "model" going forward, replacing the monster 80+k seat stadiums.

Makes sense. Premium seating is where the revenue is, and improving broadcasts, VR eventually getting figured out, and things like those mini-IMAX sports bars will be headwinds to fans attending in person.

That new Baylor arena seems like it might be sort of the future on the bball side.

On thing with NW that confuses me — that stadium is very fancy and costs about $900M, yet CFB folks will tell you their FB NIL is the bottom of the conference. Why don’t they skip a few marble finishes and put some of that money into the team? It seems they’re too invested in this stadium.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

I get Penn State is a big program and he would get to coach players that have more athleticism/potential. There is more pressure and career risk there, but he may be up for it. State College is pretty crappy, but a football guy probably doesn't care.

The money probably isn't that different, he's had huge pay increases since coming to IU. I was hoping he was part of the core staff that would keep building here and eventually he would take a HC job and that would be cool.

Who knows. Maybe he is tired of Cignetti, I don't know everything behind the scenes.

Bright side is we have a lot of $ to poach our next DC if he leaves.

Don't coaches have agents ?
Players have agents.
Actors have agents.
Hookers have agents.
(Also known as "pimps').