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364 million verdict against the trumpster

No victim. No complaint. No damages. No crime.

But yeah, Trump told me so.
he broke a law that was put in the books by republicans.

so no crime is a load of bs


Is there a victim when you go over the speed limit? Try arguing that with the officer when he writes the ticket lol.

Care to explain the point of laws if following them is optional?
 
he broke a law that was put in the books by republicans.

so no crime is a load of bs
It was never intended to be applied this way but you know that. But if you want to go that way then apply it to every real estate developer in NY who all do the exact same thing. But they won't will they? Wonder why. One system of Justice, right?

The fine is also completely unconstitutional.

 
It was never intended to be applied this way but you know that. But if you want to go that way then apply it to every real estate developer in NY who all do the exact same thing. But they won't will they? Wonder why. One system of Justice, right?

The fine is also completely unconstitutional.


You pretend like this is the first time the law has been applied to someone

blinders much?
 
he broke a law that was put in the books by republicans.

so no crime is a load of bs


Is there a victim when you go over the speed limit? Try arguing that with the officer when he writes the ticket lol.

Care to explain the point of laws if following them is optional?
So, Trump did no more than speed? When's the last time you paid over $500 for a misdemeanor, Skippy?
 
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Of course, Trump just told the court he couldn't buy a $450+ million bond because the bonding companies wanted liquid collateral and he didn't have enough. And, unless Trump sold some of that stock in your chart, he didn't even make a Trumpian overinflated nickel, did he?

Meanwhile, calculated at 6%, Trump will lose $28,767 per day by tying up $175 million in cash indefinitely for loss of use. That's a lot of gold athletic shoes he'll need to sell.
 
[Ginsburg] also noted that the ban on excessive fines was added to the Bill of Rights for the purpose of protecting individual liberty. "Protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history for good reason: Such fines undermine other liberties."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf as reported by NPR in 2019.

I think LII should add Ginsberg’s opinion.

 
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Wait til he's president and (based on teh law the House passed) he forces divestiture of TikTok to himself.

There's a better than 20% chance this is the eventual outcome. We banned asbestos but we can't ban TikTok?

We suck.
No one's talking about banning it. We're forcing the Chinese to sell it.
 
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No one's talking about banning it. We're forcing the Chinese to sell it.
13 YO daughter got flagged by TSA at Tampa airport the day the House voted on the Tik Tok ban a couple weeks ago.

Pulled her over to scan her purse. She's looking at me like, "WTH?"

I responded "See...the Feds know...it's all that Tik Tok. (To agent) I'll turn "State" on her officer. I'll sing like a bird".

TSA guy was cracking up. 40-something black guy. Told me his daughter and mine could be cellmates in Tik Tok jail. :D
 
We should though. It's a threat to people's wellbeing.


Like asbestos.
There are a lot of things that are threats to our wellbeing, but they aren't being banned.

And that's not why we're forcing China to divest of it.
 
he broke a law that was put in the books by republicans.

so no crime is a load of bs


Is there a victim when you go over the speed limit? Try arguing that with the officer when he writes the ticket lol.

Care to explain the point of laws if following them is optional?

In 1956 Jacob Javits who was then the New York State Attorney General convinced the legislature to pass the law (Section 63(12) of New York’s Executive Law) upon which Trump is being accused of violating.

According to this link..

Since 1956 the attorney general’s office has brought cases ranging from accusing three bus companies of violating New York City regulations on idling to accusing ExxonMobil of misleading investors about the business risks presented by climate change.

So the Trump organization is far from being the only the business having been accused of violating a law which has been on the books for many years

Also Letitia James running for election on what can be called a political cause by promising to bring the Trump organization "into a bright light" isn't unusual among state attorney generals these days who are seeking elective office. For example, the battle ground generals in today's culture war politics are many times state attorney generals.
 
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just pointing out that your analogy would have been better if you used $1000 speeding ticket. Inflation sucks.
Actually, I meant to say $500 million, which was meant to highlight how ridiculous Hickory's comparison is.
 

There are a lot of things that are threats to our wellbeing, but they aren't being banned.

And that's not why we're forcing China to divest of it.
Oh, I get why we're forcing the divestiture. National security.

But that's just one part of why Tik Tok is bad. And probably the smaller part. Watch the Joe Rogan interview of Jonathan Haidt. I'm probably going to pick up his book.

 
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Oh, I get why we're forcing the divestiture. National security.

But that's just one part of why Tik Tok is bad. And probably the smaller part. Watch the Joe Rogan interview of Jonathan Haidt. I'm probably going to pick up his book.

Fully agree that Tik Tok is bad in that regard, but it's far from being the only social media company that's a major problem.
 
Fully agree that Tik Tok is bad in that regard, but it's far from being the only social media company that's a major problem.
True. The tech giants should be forced to enforce their age restrictions (which would also help clear up bot culture). We make retailers check ID to sell alcohol. We should do the same with social media.

And no child should be able to access social media til at least 16 (and probably 18)
 
True. The tech giants should be forced to enforce their age restrictions (which would also help clear up bot culture). We make retailers check ID to sell alcohol. We should do the same with social media.

And no child should be able to access social media til at least 16 (and probably 18)
Right. The Chinese seem to have figured out how to do that.

Social media was not much of a thing when my daughter was young, but I hope I would insist on knowing her passwords to all her accounts if she were that age now.

I did catch my nephew, who lived with us, surfing porn. He was too stupid to use a passsword. Of course, I felt hypocritical banning him from it.......
 
True. The tech giants should be forced to enforce their age restrictions (which would also help clear up bot culture). We make retailers check ID to sell alcohol. We should do the same with social media.

And no child should be able to access social media til at least 16 (and probably 18)
 
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True. The tech giants should be forced to enforce their age restrictions (which would also help clear up bot culture). We make retailers check ID to sell alcohol. We should do the same with social media.

And no child should be able to access social media til at least 16 (and probably 18)
Amen. I told you it was quite shocking to see my 13 year old daughter appear on People You Might Know
 
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