SRIV94 said:

Reason BTN doesn’t have it is that NBC jumped them and took it. They really wanted it for their night game, but MSU balked at playing at night since they’ve had three or four night games already.

And NBC couldn’t do it at 3:30 because of the Breeder’s Cup. So Peacock was the compromise.

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SRIV94 said:

Reason BTN doesn’t have it is that NBC jumped them and took it. They really wanted it for their night game, but MSU balked at playing at night since they’ve had three or four night games already.

And NBC couldn’t do it at 3:30 because of the Breeder’s Cup. So Peacock was the compromise.

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Bowlmania said:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/economists-say-inflation-deficits-will-be-higher-under-trump-than-harris-0365588e

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zeke4ahs said:

Nope not a fan of playing into the hayseed caricature. Doubt the students would love that either.

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dbmhoosier said:

We wouldn't want to be racist now would we?

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DANC said:

There's only one Party that doesn't care if non-citizens vote.

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IUNorth said:

There's less chance of this happening, because he's obviously a very good basketball coach. But now that he's experienced ultimate success, I would worry how he'll handle having a group of players that don't respond well to his style and approach?? I could see him doing something that gets him "cancelled". It can happen very quickly in today's world. He's got a little bit of a leash right now, but an injury or two, a few recruits not being able to handle his manic style...struggles on the court as a result... those moments of him pushing players mid game, saying some of the things he says...well we know first hand how all that can wear people out. And our experience with it was over 20 years ago!! Today, you're literally one slip up away from being on the outside looking in.

For maybe that reason, or others like NBA jobs, I doubt he's the coach at UConn 5 years from now.

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cosmickid said:

If your turnout % is mainly high proficiency voters who were going to vote anyway, that lessens the odds that the amateurish GOTV effort your running is going to be able to turn out the amount of lesser proficiency voters you're going to need to rely on to counteract the lead the Dems have built up during early voting.

Elon is an idiot, so no idea why you'd refer to his "knowledge" of elections? The total GOP vote in PA up to now is 458,055 so what does he mean when he says that the GOP is doing 435,000 better than 2020? Is he saying only around 23,000 Republicans returned mail ballots in 2020? The reality is that 623,404 mail votes at a rate of 79.4 % were returned by PA Republicans in 2020.

The discrepancy is that in 2020 Dems returned 1,702,484 and their total for this year is only 837,916, so turnout is not as high as 2020 overall. And the Dems don't have as large a lead as they had heading into 2020 election day...But that is only significant if you assume that the electorate on election day in 2024 will look the same as in 2020.

Dems are seeing a higher % of their low-proficiency voters vote early compared to the Pubs.Before 2020 it was the GOP that participated in mail and early voting at a higher rate than Dems. So if the opposite is true in 2024 it's really a return to form. The fact that Elon applies such a simplistic analysis to the early numbers in PA, and he is in charge of their GOTV effort shows why they are in such trouble.

Dems believe based on the data that a large % of GOP early voters have been regular voters, which means they're going to have to count on Bro crew type men to vote on a single day, election day. Also in 2022 the youth vote in PA was pro-Democrat, and a lot of those voters register as non-affiliated. The Dems need to turn out their coalition in PA on election day. If they do they'll win...

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Ohio Guy said:

One question I've never had sufficiently answered is what about all the down ballot Republicans who win their elections in swing states and other places where the MAGA crowd claims the election is rigged. Admittedly I don't follow the election fraud conspiracy theories close enough, but do they believe their wins are rigged too and just OK with it?

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dbmhoosier said:

We wouldn't want to be racist now would we?

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cosmickid said:

I imagine that this is more or less a case of a lazy registrant wanting to inflate his/her numbers and get paid more...

That said I'm hearing rumblings that it was a far Right group involved in trying to register voters in Lancaster Co (a GOP county) that employed the individual(s) involved

But for all of our friends who are quick to accuse "libs" of voter fraud...This may be the most blatant (and hilarious) example of illegal voting activity I've ever heard of. And notice how he had previously invoked Jesus,I guess in reference to Trump...

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ChicagoFineForNow said:

Really is a travesty. Look at this.

Pennsylvania officials investigating fraudulent voter registration applications in Lancaster County

Election workers identified issues with as many as 2,500 forms during a routine review of voter registrations.

www.nbcnews.com

2500 attempted fraudulent registrations.

Pennsylvania’s motor-voter law is a disgrace. But you keep quibbling about your one case of fraud.

All of this is so simple to solve. Citizenship verification to register (SAVE act). Same day voting. Paper ballots.

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crazed_hoosier2 said:

Indiana has had mandatory Voter ID since the 2008 election. And I don't think it's caused any problems that should be of major concern. I'm sure there are isolated incidents -- and the law has provisions for that (including a provisional ballot). I've just never been presented an argument against Voter ID that I found terribly persuasive.

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IUNorth said:

So its cool in this instance?

There's been quite a lot of "Constitution challenging" in the last 8 years, and it hasn't just been Democrats doing it.

Like most things...from both sides...its cool when it benefits your side.

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IUNorth said:

I think the most common and accepted belief is that Trump is likely going to win, with all these polling numbers showing that he's relatively even, within the margin of error. And I think a big reason for that was what happened in 2016. Where nearly all exit polling showed Clinton winning, in some cases handily, only to have Trump flip it all and win nearly everywhere it was close. Afterwards, that surprise was chalked up to significant numbers of voters not being honest, or not wanting to admit they were voting for Trump.

I wonder this time around though, if there might not be a better chance that potential Harris voters are the ones that would be more likely to not want to give that info to pollsters? Maybe its because of where I live, which is a heavy Trump supporting area, but it sure seems like the "quiet" vote this time would be a Harris vote.

There was a piece on one of the national news shows last night that made me think of this. They followed, and interviewed a couple of people in rural Georgia. One of them was a Trump supporter. One was someone that had historically been a Republican voter, but will be voting for Harris. She said there were "a lot" of people in her area that were going to vote for Harris, but that wouldn't tell pollsters, or really anyone that they were.

I guess we'll see in 6 days. One thing is virtually certain, its going to be a shit show.

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mcmurtry66 said:

Sounding like this thing is pretty much a done deal dbm

@DANC well done son

Put nc on the board

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