Who applies?
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Depends on the circumstances. Crippling injury problems like last year? Maybe.
Simple lack of improvement without significant injuries to mitigate it? No.
Okay..... Suuurrre you would. BTW, get your "facts" straight... he resigned, he was not fired. Lots of back story.... to this. The Tulsa Union deal was all politics.
Meh. He quit before he got fired. My former brother in law was on his staff. It wasn't a good fit for either side.
Your right because my dad was not one of the winningest coaches in high school football.
I was being playful.
IMG Florida doesn't give one crap about some 1A coach in Indiana that's beat Clinton Prarie 50 times.
Cameron continued coaching, but got fired again and is no longer coaching. The bottom line is, every coach who left here did so because they were fired, not because they were so successful here they were offered better jobs.
Well aware of the entire story too.... knew Wright while at Noblesville....
Point is.... KW was smart enough to see this wasn't gonna work out unless he went 100-0 every season.... He was an "Outsider" and never welcomed.
You are probably right but I do still believe I could go 44-2 though at IMG if only I could get hired.
Both those guys would appear to me to be solid hires based purely on their records...
The problem with any D2 coaches and their staffs would be recruiting connections...
One of the things few of our fan base realize is that in spite of last years debacle and this years sputtering start we're still doing well recruiting wise and have expanded our recruiting base to consistently include Texas and have now expanded into California, which is pretty darn impressive for any non-top twenty outfit...
That's one of the major reasons I'd hope we can find some way to retain the bulk of our staff even if there is a coaching change at the top...
The Very Best Case Scenario would be to find some way to convince Tom Allen to stay on as D.C./LB's Coach thus retaining his recruiting contacts and his Defensive Expertise...
Starting from scratch simply wipes out a year or more of recruiting and loses some connections forever... Never a good thing for a struggling program..., especially this one...
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And neither did the people of Tulsa Union... 😁 ..... Okies are as smug about their football as us Hoosiers are about basketball....
44-2 ?!! .... Okay, I'll give ya 40-4 but 44-2 is a little extreme! 😁
I've liked Creighton since his results in Crawfordsville. Do believe Allen was part of that.
...and yes that is the exact thought of my bottom line evaluation of IUFB...
Yep... It appears TA was the DB's/ST's Coach for Creighton on the 2007 Wabash team which went 11-2 and finished ranked 8th nationally...
I could live with a repeat of that type of result here...
5-7 is basically exactly our historical win percentage. It's not above average for IU, it is exactly average. It sucks. Every single power 5 coach understands the college football environment and demands of today. There's not a coach in the business who would be surprised by a coach being fired after winning 1 conference game over two years 6 years into the job. There's not a coach in the business who would think that's an unreasonable decision. It doesn't matter what school or bottom feeder program you're at, firing after that is as predictable as the sun rising. 6 years is anything but a quick trigger. There's not a single phase of the game that looks good because the program is an absolute disaster. The last thing IU needs is to give Allen another year to drive the program further into the ground, making it even harder for the next guy to succeed.
Realistic and would probably listen…..
- Tyson Helton
- Jason Candle
- Sean Lewis
- Jay Norvell
- Shawn Clark
- Curt Cignetti
- Clay Helton
- Gus Malzahn (ready for a reclamation project)
I think before any coaching change is considered, we need to scrap "LEO" in favor of "TNP" (Take No Prisoners). The more godly approach hasn't been effective. I think some boys just need to taste the nasty. It carry's over into their play the next day, those who buy into it. See what happens after a logo change, and then make final judgement on Tommy Allen. He just might be blinded by the light, unable to see what really needs to come undone.
I worry too, but having a better OL coach and maybe a new OC [that is my hope]. The season will be tough but with IU's two best classes and our new coaches working with players getting more of their coaching in. We don't really know what the season will be like as they could surprise us.
You are blaming the wrong thing and person as he pushes toughness and thinking it doesn't allow toughness shows me you probably haven't been in the military. Marines taught us to love each other without the words and we were very tough due to training. I am not saying coach Allen needs to be kept here just that LEO doesn't mean a lack of toughness.
Your approach could lead to more problems on and off the field with your approach. But it may be close to time to have a new HC coach at IU.
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My first call is to Dave Clawson. My second is to Dan Mullen. Both offensive guys who have won big. Unlikely either takes it, but throw everything, but the kitchen sink at them. Third call is to Joe Moorhead at Akron. Another offensive guy. Got a raw deal at Ms St. Was a great OC at Penn St so knows where to find guys who fit his system and this league.
Enough with the rah, rah and get someone who can coach and understands all 3 phases.
Enough with the rah, rah and get someone who can coach and understands all 3 phases.
I loved Hayden Fox, but he may be a bit long in the tooth for this rebuild. He was a much younger coach when he took over at Minnesota State and accomplished a successful rebuild. His DC, Luther Van Dam, passed a few years ago. And his “young, bright” offensive assistant, switched lines of work to a more entertainment, aquatic lifestyle. He did very well in that switch too.
Creighton would be fantastic. However I’ve always sensed that he will eventually coach Purdue.
St coach during CC’s last year there in 2007. That defense was stout.
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Erik Raeburn, who had a better record at Wabash (2008-2015) than Creighton did (2001-2007), would be good. He is the nephew of Larry Kehres (Mt Union) and Wabash went toe to toe with them in 2011, falling 20-8 in the National Quarterfinals. Sent their 2 top QBs to the hospital.
He’s currently turning around Gannon, now 6-2.
His wife is an absolute hoot, too.
He’s currently turning around Gannon, now 6-2.
His wife is an absolute hoot, too.
No more people from the state of Indiana! Coaches from this state don’t do shit in sports here. Get as far away from Indiana people as possible. Avoid this state like the plague. I don’t know why people have such a nostalgia for this state. It stinks for talent in the coaching ranks. Go find a state that actuall knows something about football.
Given how comically inept our coaching staff is (calling a timeout before the first play of the game on offense against Nebraska) it shouldn’t be hard to find someone better. Just don’t hire an abusive drunk or spaz.
Something happened at his stop in between, though. Was it Georgia Southern?
if we get a bunch of impactful transfers (especially at QB), we might win a few more games.
i liked the abusive drunk. at least he knew what he was doing.
We thought we had impactful transfers this year.
