Indianapolis is certainly going to be full of sports marketing agents if it's not already.And I don’t mean to imply it’s the path to raise academics at a school. It’s just one more thing to make a school attractive
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Indianapolis is certainly going to be full of sports marketing agents if it's not already.And I don’t mean to imply it’s the path to raise academics at a school. It’s just one more thing to make a school attractive
I can see that at IU but not in the SEC or Big12 at all.I wonder if my son’s generation is going to give like my generation? I am guessing no. And if I am right Colleges are going to be feeling pain when the old guys are dead and gone and donations dry up.
They would be more likely to give if the Hoosiers went to the Rose Bowl.People talk about all the donations that sports brings in, but those go to sports. I wonder if there are studies on sports competing with academics. If someone donates $5000 to the Varsity Club then gets a call from the foundation or alumni, are they more or less likely to give. I suspect they are competing for the same pool of cash.
as for an endowment i know exactly how they work
Those are infrastructure items, right?I’m serious. They are the objects of the immediately preceding sentence. And he’s right. The “public” builds bridges and roads and businesses benefit from them.
Of course he did. Does he really think people build their own roads and bridges?That's how I always took it before. Either reading is fine, I guess. Either way we can all agree he didn't claim they didn't build their own business.
I guess my point is, basketball is a major - MAJOR - factor in the BTN and payouts to B1G members. It's not just football.Yes I noticed that part too. In that report they didn't go head to head with numbers. I thought the second link where it had revenue by sport was good. When you research it you will always see FB as #1. Another factor to consider is new conferences are being formed or teams being added like the Big 10 based on FB not BB, soccer, etc.
it is interesting to look at the impact of successful sports programs on academic institutions and on the academic excellence as opposed to athletic success.
I recall a report from Butler on the fallout of their back-to-back BB championship game appearances. Sure, it energized alums to give to their sports programs, and likely unrestricted gifts as well.
But beyond that there was significant side benefits that are not necessarily so obvious. Admissions applications spiked dramatically based on the new-found national name recognition, particularly from out-of-state students. With a bigger applicant pool they could be more selective & raise metrics like average test scores, average GPA, and perhaps expand diversity as well, if that was a goal. Even new faculty recruitment was helped by the added name recognition.
I also recall a similar analysis of Georgetown, joining the Big East in the 80s and building a big time basketball program. The were always a great school, but the success in basketball gave a huge influx of recognition that was beneficial even outside of athletics.
@Marvin the Martian what would you think of Gruden at IU? He's only four years older than Prime
Then in other words it’s fateNo way it happens, those emails just won't get him hired here.
He's been off the radar for a while. I think he has a huge name with people our age. I don't know most 18-year-olds know him from Adam. I am not sure he would be near the splash people think. I think he could do the Xs and Os, I am just not sure he's close to the splash some think.
I know people that knew him when he lived here, maybe that would be an in for me .
Gruden sent mean emails and was copied on some others that were mean. He must be stopped at all cost. I am disappointed that he has never posted here though. He'd be a great contributor on AOTF based on the content of those emails.Then in other words it’s fate
He certainly can mean mugGruden sent mean emails and was copied on some others that were mean. He must be stopped at all cost. I am disappointed that he has never posted here though. He'd be a great contributor on AOTF based on the content of those emails.
Always wondered how much of that was just for cameras.He certainly can mean mug
He certainly can mean mug
Why do people try to pretend that racist, homophobic and misogynistic emails are just “mean”? It’s the same way people try to pass off Trump’s ridiculous tweets. There’s a big difference.Gruden sent mean emails and was copied on some others that were mean. He must be stopped at all cost. I am disappointed that he has never posted here though. He'd be a great contributor on AOTF based on the content of those emails.
@BradStevens yeah we might be wrong on this one. I underestimated the size of IU’s operating budget. I stand by what I said re the absurd arms race but …..
I find universities hoarding these billion dollar endowments to be obscene and immoral. They are not Goldman Sachs. They should use the billions to run a tuition free university that is not beholden to the wealthiest of the wealthy.Endowment-rich, high-tuition colleges are hoarding wealth — it’s time to pay it forward
Harvard University is sitting on an endowment worth more than $50 billion. Yale’s is worth more than $40 billion— and every day, it seems, I get a letter in the mail begging me to build that invest…thehill.com