Susan Collins has voted with Biden 67% of the time, which only serves to strengthen the frail hopes of bipartisanship.
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What Democrat bills did Bernie vote against? If he ever did, he doesn't now. Gun control is a Constitutional issue.
Bayh and Donnelly voted for every major Democrat legislation. Donnelly was so pro-life, he voted against any restrictions on abortion.
Democrats are not allowed to vote against Democrat bills - by their leadership - if it means they might not be elected for voting for that bill in their district. But not if it means the legislation won't pass.
I can't believe you don't think Democrats don't vote as a bloc much more than Republicans.
How long ago was slavery, yet it's still an issue today for you.
wait, so it's good to reach across the aisle, but bad if you reach across to racists, when it's a bunch of racists who are across the aisle?
I think McConnell sell by date has passed.
We'll see what they get done over the next 2 years. Passing that last spending bill because the House may basically do their job by questioning some of the spending was a ****ing joke. McConnell's first major act after the election was turning it into a heads Democrats win, tails Republicans lose on the budget. He did not try to use any bargaining power at all.
At a certain point the "RINOs" as some are calling them, but are really just the establishment, have to provide some sort of reason to vote for them other than what the other guys want to do, only slower.
Finally, it is interesting that the MAGA folks need to realize that the establishment types are needed to win as was being discussed up above but it is clear the same is also true going the other direction. Quite a few GOP types voted against the party in the past 2 or 3 elections to "save" it from MAGA. Some even arguing that rank and file GOP candidates also need to lose to teach the GOP a lesson about electing right wing populists. Kind of hard to argue it is against MAGA interests to do likewise isn't it? (FWIW, I think it is unfortunately true that almost anything right is going to be better than what the left is offering these days. Wish more people thought that when they helped foist Biden and his merry band on us.)
I don't have time right now but he's at 92% on voting with Biden for 2022.
Bayh, really? He championed deregulation of the financial services industry. As a blue dog he helped kill the public option and more sticky mandates of ACA.
Come on man.
You don't think Republicans do?
The zealots of both parties expect 100%. Look at Sinema and Manchin last 2 years. Progressives I know were livid, demanding the same loyalty that the GOP demands.
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Dan Crenshaw: Republicans opposing McCarthy are 'petty' | Fox News Video
Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, calls out Republicans who refuse to support Kevin McCarthy for speaker
Crenshaw with some scathing remarks for the clowns.
In a world of blind men....Dan Crenshaw: Republicans opposing McCarthy are 'petty' | Fox News Video
Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, calls out Republicans who refuse to support Kevin McCarthy for speakerwww.foxnews.com
Crenshaw with some scathing remarks for the clowns.
Remember when.. “democrats fell in love, republicans fell in line?” The dems loved Nancy, but the pubs aren’t falling in line.
About as defiant and unstable as the previous president.
About as defiant and unstable as the previous president.
Dumbass.Dan Crenshaw: Republicans opposing McCarthy are 'petty' | Fox News Video
Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, calls out Republicans who refuse to support Kevin McCarthy for speaker
Crenshaw with some scathing remarks for the clowns.
Crenshaw, not you.
It’s a good thing people don’t elect republicans to govern.Posted without comment.... will have more to say later.
Lots of comments and quotes from fellow Republicans, and some background of where he came from, and where is is today.
What Kevin McCarthy Will Do to Gain Power
The Republican leader’s ambition has always been his defining characteristic. Attempting to placate both Trumpists and moderates may lead to his downfall.www.newyorker.com
How so? I tend to think Crenshaw is correct, when he says there is no way anyone other than McCarthy will be speaker. If that’s the case isn’t what these Reps are doing just meaningless posturing?
Calling them enemies is a dumbass move.
McCarthy is a crappy milquetoast pick who has no stated agenda or list of accomplishments he is hoping to achieve. He arrogantly moved his butt into the Speaker's office before having the votes for the position. There is no rule that says he has to be seated, they can go round and round forever and I frankly don't care what they look like. I have an extremely low viewpoint of the GOP that is only saved by my even lower opinion of the political left. If they look dumb, so be it.
The job of the Speaker and the party leadership is to build consensus with the team. McCarthy and Co. were so arrogant they did not have the votes counted and the issues hammered out before the vote. That doesn't give much confidence in his ability to lead anything. I am not 100% on board with the agitators agenda either, but I do have an expectation that the GOP has to do SOMETHING with these wins. And if they start talking about more ****ing tax breaks or just sit around for two years (which has been the MO of the McCarthy wing of the party for a long while now), then F it. Burn the party down. They are next to useless anyway.
Heels are dug in. Hard to believe enough of the Never McCarthy Pubs would relent unless he publicly humiliates himself -- which he isn't above doing.
Who might be the compromise candidate? I can't imagine the sane members voting for Biggs or Banks or Jordan. If they end up having to ditch McCarthy, my money is on Scalice.
If you are talking about the infrastructure bill, it should have been close to unanimous. The largest part of the bill was renewal of the Highway Trust Fund which all sides favor. But Biden and the Dems couldn’t leave well enough alone. They loaded the bill with a bunch of Democrat agenda items putting the renewal in jeopardy.
I was referring to 4 corners. I assume there is some portion of Colorado and Arizona that border each other at that point-maybe a few yards?
I don’t want McCarthy to run things like Pelosi. Nothing was voted on without her specific approval. That’s crazy.
Geometrically, it would be an infinitesimally small point.
It’ll be McCarthy but I think he will have to agree to change the rules with regard to the amendment process at a minimum.
If Dems "always stick together" Trump would not have won in 2016. Dems not voting in PA,WI and MI were the reason those states went to Trump. If you need proof of that consider Dems swept every Gubernatorial and Senate race in those 3 states from 2018-2022, except for Johnson being re-elected in WI.
That is how it all runs now. All of the power lies in the hands of the Spealer and Senate Majority Leader as to deciding what actually gets voted on.
People always talk about wanting a change to how our government has been running but they always freak out about what that change looks like. If you aren't happy with the way things have been going, McCarthy is one of the last guys you want in that position. Tearing down some of the power of the Speaker is a good thing IMO.
It's not like McCarthy could delay the vote, like Nancy could on legislation until he had them lined up.
He'd already given concessions. These people against him want to have veto power over who gets committee assignments. They're not just dissatisfied with McCarthy. It's a power grab and the slim Republican majority allows the tail to wag the dog.
Tearing down the Speaker's power is a great thing. I'm not sure the people opposing him really want that, they want HIM to have almost no power. But if it were Jordan being voted on, they would want him to have a lot of power.
Maybe the power of the Speaker should become a campaign issue we all vote on.
And as I've said before, do away with seniority.
Too bad it isn't strictly most votes. Dems might have snuck in and got speaker while gop split their vote lol
The inmates have taken over the asylum.
Nobody is going to run anything. The GOP does not have a governing majority as they have a dozen or so members that will vote no on everything. McCarthy's chance at becoming speaker was likely killed in the Nov elections when the GOP couldn't flip seats in PA and VA and build a comfortable margin with moderates.
Expect a lot of fun come time to raise the debt ceiling or fund the govt for FY24. 2011 all over again, probably worse.
I admit that I haven't been following this closely enough. Is the main issue with McCarthy that he did not start kissing Trump's ass soon enough, after Jan 6th, and that he even dared to criticize the Wonderful Wizard of Orange for a day or two?
He'll never be Speaker. He doesn't want the job, for one. They're just using him as a stand-in for NOT KEVIN.
