McCarthy

[twenty02]

Posted without comment.... will have more to say later.

Lots of comments and quotes from fellow Republicans, and some background of where he came from, and where is is today.

What Kevin McCarthy Will Do to Gain Power

The Republican leader’s ambition has always been his defining characteristic. Attempting to placate both Trumpists and moderates may lead to his downfall.

www.newyorker.com

 

[dr.jb]

politics has always been a dirty business

now even more so

 

[TMFT]

The House is going to be mess because of hugely strong factions within the GOP that don’t mind bucking leadership.

I read something that made a good point that the Speaker has such diminished power now in the social media age. Someone like MTG can be a media and political powerhouse even stripped of committee assignments, something that would’ve been a death sentence 30 years ago.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Posted without comment.... will have more to say later.

Lots of comments and quotes from fellow Republicans, and some background of where he came from, and where is is today.

What Kevin McCarthy Will Do to Gain Power

The Republican leader’s ambition has always been his defining characteristic. Attempting to placate both Trumpists and moderates may lead to his downfall.

www.newyorker.com

So is the theme of that article that McCarthy is a survivor, or is the theme that the House GOP is dysfunctional as all get out?

 

[Marvin the Martian]

So is the theme of that article that McCarthy is a survivor, or is the theme that the House GOP is dysfunctional as all get out?

Can't it be both? Didn't Boehner's book also call out the dysfunctional part? So anyone navigating that has to be a survivor.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Posted without comment.... will have more to say later.

Lots of comments and quotes from fellow Republicans, and some background of where he came from, and where is is today.

What Kevin McCarthy Will Do to Gain Power

The Republican leader’s ambition has always been his defining characteristic. Attempting to placate both Trumpists and moderates may lead to his downfall.

www.newyorker.com

Same ol’ same ol’. Write a narrative then cherry pick evidence and quotes to support the narrative.

 

[UncleMark]

Same ol’ same ol’. Write a narrative then cherry pick evidence and quotes to support the narrative.

I can't imagine anyone doing such a thing.

 

[larsIU]

I can't imagine anyone doing such a thing.

 

[twenty02]

For first time in over a century, the Speaker of the House election may go to a 2nd (or more) ballot today. Could be interesting. Most likely won't be.

 

[CarRamRod1]

This is why Senate Republicans signed on to the omnibus. House Republicans are dysfunctional.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Here's a politician who listens to her constituents.

 

[BCCHoosier]

Here's a politician who listens to her constituents.

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I'm not a McCarthy fan, but if this fringe group of the party becomes the new face of the party and prevents any meaningful legislation from happening, the Republican party is going to have problems

 

[Bowlmania]

For first time in over a century, the Speaker of the House election may go to a 2nd (or more) ballot today. Could be interesting. Most likely won't be.

What a shitshow.

 

[DANC]

Here's a politician who listens to her constituents.

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There is such a thing as tilting against windmills.

She and the others aren't backing anyone who can win. McCarthy has already conceded in allowing for an easier level to out a Speaker.

The media is going to have a field day with this and poison the well for the next election.

This is just a stupid hill to die on.

 

[DANC]

I'm not a McCarthy fan, but if this fringe group of the party becomes the new face of the party and prevents any meaningful legislation from happening, the Republican party is going to have problems

When was the last meaningful legislation that was passed that wasn't a further step to complete Socialism?

Gumming up the House is not an issue. Winning future elections for Republicans is.

 

[Bowlmania]

I'm not a McCarthy fan, but if this fringe group of the party becomes the new face of the party and prevents any meaningful legislation from happening, the Republican party is going to have problems

Good of Virginia referred to McCarthy as "part of the swamp cartel." I guess McCarthy's public comment in early 2021 that Trump bore responsibility for Jan 6 was an unforgivable sin in the eyes of some of the crazies.

 

[dbmhoosier]

When was the last meaningful legislation that was passed that wasn't a further step to complete Socialism?

Gumming up the House is not an issue. Winning future elections for Republicans is.

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone. There's a significant portion of the base that going to start voting straight blue in the general if the America First candidate loses the primary. Watch it happen.

 

[Univee2]

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone. There's a significant portion of the base that going to start voting straight blue in the general if the America First candidate loses the primary. Watch it happen.

Why blue?

 

[dbmhoosier]

And Lee Zeldin would be the perfect compromise here but the RINOs will never let it happen. Makes too much sense.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Why blue?

To purge the scum from the party. If we can't do it in the primary do it in the general.

 

[Univee2]

To purge the scum from the party. If we can't do it in the primary do it in the general.

And you enable even greater craziness from loons on the left.

 

[dbmhoosier]

And you enable even greater craziness from loons on the left.

Sometimes you must throw the battle to win the war.

 

[cosmickid]

Here's a politician who listens to her constituents.

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She won by less than 600 votes in a district that encompasses more than a 1/3 of the land mass of Colorado, and borders Utah, Wyoming, New Mexico and a smidgen of Arizona. Nearly 760,000 people live there and she won by 600 votes. Saying she "represents' or listens to her constituents is a major stretch...

 

[DANC]

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone. There's a significant portion of the base that going to start voting straight blue in the general if the America First candidate loses the primary. Watch it happen.

Like it or not, non-MAGA Republicans are a significant voting bloc. We'd better learn to live with them or you can forget about any future Republican President.

 

[larsIU]

Sometimes you must throw the battle to win the war.

Sounds more like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Actually, both factions of the Republican party are doing that now. Kudos. And Godspeed.

 

[NPT]

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone.

Define RINO.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Like it or not, non-MAGA Republicans are a significant voting bloc. We'd better learn to live with them or you can forget about any future Republican President.

Exactly

 

[Baller23Boogie]

Define RINO.

To him, someone that doesn't bend the knee to Trump.

 

[Univee2]

Sounds more like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Actually, both factions of the Republican party are doing that now. Kudos. And Godspeed.

Be careful what you wish for as it might come to pass. Things have really worked out well for places like those countries that are on that fast train to radical leftism.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Define RINO.

Republican in Name Only 😜

 

[NPT]

Republican in Name Only 😜

You know what I mean.

 

[UncleMark]

I'm not a McCarthy fan, but if this fringe group of the party becomes the new face of the party and prevents any meaningful legislation from happening, the Republican party is going to have problems

Too late.

 

[UncleMark]

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone. There's a significant portion of the base that going to start voting straight blue in the general if the America First candidate loses the primary. Watch it happen.

Suicide pact.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I'm not a McCarthy fan, but if this fringe group of the party becomes the new face of the party and prevents any meaningful legislation from happening, the Republican party is going to have problems

Lol. You assume a 4,000+ page $1.7 trillion, bill drafted by staff, special interests, and lobbyists, unread by any members of congress but passes anyway, and signed by a president who has no clue of anything let alone what’s in the bill is meaningful legislation?

The best thing congress can do is go in recess January 4 and comeback in 2025, after the next election. Congress doesn’t do anything important. Investigating the opposition, appropriating money for everything, and handing off all the important stuff to lobbyists and the deep state is not meaningful.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

There's no winning elections until the RINOs are gone. There's a significant portion of the base that going to start voting straight blue in the general if the America First candidate loses the primary. Watch it happen.

Then they’re the RINOs. You understand that, right? Dumb question, of course you dont.

 

[larsIU]

Be careful what you wish for as it might come to pass. Things have really worked out well for places like those countries that are on that fast train to radical leftism.

Oh, don't worry, the Dems (within which I declare a faction home) are dealing with this as well. Ask Nancy.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Why blue?

Because they’re emotionally stupid RINOs.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Define RINO.

Anyone that isn’t a Trump loyalist. They misuse the term.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Suicide pact.

Several cults have ended that way.

 

[NPT]

Anyone that isn’t a Trump loyalist. They misuse the term.

I wanted his definition (I think you are correct but I want him to define it).