One is a woman he never met, the other is E. Jean Carrol.
Carroll wins. Millions in damages.
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By the way, what do you get when you cross an elephant and a rhinoceros?
Elephino.
(I'll see myself out.)
Elephino.
(I'll see myself out.)
Lol there was a pandemic. Draconian states put companies out of business. Biden hasn’t gotten a single thing right. Lowest approval rating in modern history. Wake up. Stop being blindly partisan. It’s okay to hate trump and recognize Biden sucks
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I'll preface in saying that this doesn't actually relate or influence the facts in the case she just won (but it might impact the appeal). That said, this type of spiking the football is a horrible look. This is all kinds of glib, tone-deaf, stupid and pathetic. Maddow should have shut this down. I couldn't care less what Trump or the MAGA crowd thinks, though I'm sure they'll blow a gasket. This isn't really about them.
Grow the eff up E. Jean.
Grow the eff up E. Jean.
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Probably a bad time to be joking but meh. She probably didn't have a plan on what to do with money she hasn't gotten yet so instead just tried to be funny.
MAGA crowd would hate whatever she said.
You're right about the MAGA crowd hating her regardless of what she said. I'm about as far from the MAGA crowd as you can get and I thought this was in extremely poor form and not funny. I'm surprised Maddow didn't do more to shut this down and redirect it. She tried at the end I guess, but for what it's worth I think it's fair for her to keep a serious conversation about a serious topic serious and above board.
At the very least, E. Jean Carroll needs a lot of media coaching. And some couth.
The word eccentric doesn't adequately describe E. Jean.
Carroll hasn't received a penny yet. With Trump's inevitable appeals, her first receipt is several months away, at the earliest. When she starts receiving her money from Trump, she'll be bombarded with new ideas for spending her money. Some of that will be fun.
You’re an idiot. That lady is as goofy as you. Woke cult weirdo
If you watched the entire segment (and not just the clip above) you would know it was serious and above board, until late when they were wrapping up and Maddow asked EJC what she planned on doing with the money. That's when Carroll decided to have some fun. Shame on her.
If you can see the whole segment you should. Maddow's summary of Carroll's rise in the NY publishing and social scene was eye opening. She was a big name in NYC at the time of the assault, arguably bigger than Trump.
Nah.
This is like asking a lottery winner if he is going to work the next day. At that point he hasn't received a dime, so if course he will go to work the next day.
Same for Carroll. She hasn't received a dime. Her answer doesn't matter either.
I don’t support trump but I sure as shit would rather spend time with trump than your creepy weasel self. You’re gross. Cult creep. And dumb as hell
My hell will be an endless road trip trapped in a Prius with stuffshot hickory and shooter
shit. i could run you three over while driving, drinking starbucks, and sexting all at once. get real
Her friend, whom she told about the incident was also a big name. Do you remember how big the Officicle Preppy Handbook was? She wrote that and several other popular books.
Yeah...but imagine how many blowjobs you'd get.
I don’t doubt that. I like Maddow and despite all the criticisms against cable news, she’s probably as good a journalist in the traditional sense on either side from that forum.
I still think joking about it was wrong-headed and shouldn’t have aired. I also think it’s going to cost Carroll several millions of dollars in the appeal.
While it was an ill-advised joke and made the others noticeably uncomfortable, I don't think it should alter the judgment against Trump.
The damages amount isn't so much decided on how much Carroll deserves but more on how much it would take to get Trump to stop. When someone is a billionaire (or at least pretends to be) then it takes a larger amount to make them think twice about doing something compared to the average Joe.
While IANAL, I can't imagine the damages could be lowered based on what the plaintiff plans on doing with the money. The award is based on the defendant's behavior and circumstances.
Birnbach was on Lawrence after EJC's appearance on Rachel. Her name sounded familiar, but I didn't follow up on her. She noted on several occasions that Carroll was an oddball and eccentric, which was part of her notoriety in the NYC scene.
She didn’t win the lottery. She was awarded damages for defamation stemming from a sexual assault and rape case.
At best it was in extremely poor taste.
I’d be curious to hear lawyers weigh in on this because I honestly don’t know.
I’d have to think at least in someway making light of the damages from a defamation case stemming from a rape trial runs contrary to the prosecution’s case and how they depicted their client.
Didn't see you for a while, and glad you're posting again.
I agree that Carroll publicly joking about how she is going to spend the money was inappropriate, but it won't have any impact on the appeal. Punitive damages are intended to punish a defendant and deter future similar misconduct. Nothing she said or says post-trial changes that. Also, her comments, while childish and in bad form, were innocuous. As you or someone else said, she's spiking the football. Many wouldn't do it, but there's no prohibition against it.
I'm going off on a tangent here, but are you aware of the comments Trump directed at Carroll's attorney, Roberta Kaplan, when he was deposed? After testifying that Carroll wasn't his type, he looked at Kaplan and added: "You would not be my choice of mine either, to be honest with you. I hope you're not insulted. I would not under any circumstances have any interest in you. I'm honest when I say it."
He is just such an asshole. I'm sure Kaplan is spiking the ball - - privately.
The fact he throws that stuff in there. What a pig. Like he would be anyone’s type if he didn’t have money. But of course, he’d never think of that.
Yeah - Trump is absolutely an asshole, slime ball, ignoramus and pompous know-nothing who deserves everything coming his way. I’m in no way defending him or disagreeing with the ruling in this case.
It just didn’t sit with me that Carroll was making light of it in such glib fashion.
