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I don't understand why Trump supporters can see that Trump is the best weapon Democrats have to beat a Republican in the next presidential race. He's a galvanizing person.... always has been and always will be. Foreign countries don't trust him and I can understand why.
 
I don't understand why Trump supporters can't see that Trump is the best weapon Democrats have to beat a Republican in the next presidential race. He's a galvanizing person.... always has been and always will be. Foreign countries don't trust him and I can understand why.
Because Trump supporters are tired of electing pseudo-Republicans who go along to get along.

They're not in it to win an election - they're in it to stop Socialism from further destroying the country and tired of the incestuous, corrupt DC environment.
 
Because Trump supporters are tired of electing pseudo-Republicans who go along to get along.

They're not in it to win an election - they're in it to stop Socialism from further destroying the country and tired of the incestuous, corrupt DC environment.
I understand trying to elect someone different... I'm all for that and have been for years. But can't we find someone who's not such an arrogant asshole. Where's a Ross Perot when we need one? :)
 
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I understand trying to elect someone different... I'm all for that and have been for years. But can't we find someone who's not such an arrogant asshole. Where's a Ross Perot when we need one? :)
Sometimes you go with the arrogant asshole you have, instead of one you wish you had. Or soemthing like that.....

I think Desantis comes closest to Trump with a smaller asshole factor. I can see him running, if Trump decides to sit it out. Maybe they'll cut a deal where Desantis will run and make Trump Secretary of State if he wins. lol That would really bring out the crazies.
 
Sometimes you go with the arrogant asshole you have, instead of one you wish you had. Or soemthing like that.....

I think Desantis comes closest to Trump with a smaller asshole factor. I can see him running, if Trump decides to sit it out. Maybe they'll cut a deal where Desantis will run and make Trump Secretary of State if he wins. lol That would really bring out the crazies.
Making him Press Secretary would be better imo.

 
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I am stating a fact that Biden said he is picking a black woman so no other race will be considered I assume . How is that saying that a bad thing? I am using Biden's own words these are not things I just made up. For all I care he can name somebody purple I am simply repeating what Biden said.


As long as you keep your mouth shut when the next republican says I am only picking a white male to the court. I assume you will have no issue with that correct?
He may find somebody qualified but the fact he made it all about race and only will consider one race is mind boggling and racist in and of itself. But it is Biden so I am not surprised. The left does not see anything wrong with it but boy if a republican said I am only picking a man or I am only picking a someone of Irish decent they left would lose its mind. They would be screaming racism or sexism to the high heavens like you had never seen. Just like they will scream racism is anyone dare oppose the woman he puts up.
He doesn' check the boxes though. C'mon man
But in Biden's world race and gender are everything just listen to the guy talk. At the end of the day all the dems are doing it trading one activist leftist judge for another activist leftist judge so it is a wash. But Biden will make darn sure to make it all about race you can bank on it. And the timely was done intentionally to try and deflect from Biden's next mess which will be Ukraine. But the good news is Joe got a scoop of ice cream while Klain was back running the shit show.
At the end of the day BIden or shold I say Ron Klain is going to pick someone every bit as liberal as Bryer if not more liberal. Picking a black woman is just a bonus because Biden can then give one of his famous Jim Crow 2.0 speeches about how if you vote against her you are a racist or a white supremist. You know he will bring up JIm Crow multiple times I know Biden like a book he is obsessed with race like no other president and he thinks he is some sort of modern day MLK. He really does.

We already know with 100% confidence Biden will pick a black woman because everything is about race to him. I would be my house it is a black woman and nobody else will be considered. Now he just has to find the most far left wing activist black woman judge in America.
I don't know which is the more astonishing claim you're trying to make... That you're not a racist, even though you've mentioned race in nearly every post in this thread? Or that Biden is "politicizing" the SCOTUS in a manner that apparently none of his predecessors (including our crazy-ex) ever did?

Do you know when Black women were first elected to the Bar, and thus (theoretically) eligible to be appointed to SCOTUS? Charlotte Ray- 1872...

So in your mind, Biden's pledge to address a wrong is somehow worse than the deliberate exclusion of a particular race/gender historically? This is addressed to people like you...



"Just two days after the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and just weeks before the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump declared he would limit his search for her replacement to only qualified female candidates.


"It will be a woman -- a very talented, very brilliant woman," Trump said during a Sept. 20, 2020, rally in North Carolina. "We haven't chosen yet, but we have numerous women on the list." He went on to nominate now-Justice Amy Coney Barrett a month later."


As the GOP nominee challenging Jimmy Carter in 1980, Ronald Reagan publicly promised -- weeks before the election -- that he would name a woman to the Supreme Court if given the chance.

"I am announcing today that one of the first Supreme Court vacancies in my administration will be filled by the most qualified woman I can possibly find," Reagan said at an Oct. 15 news conference in Los Angeles. "It is time for a woman to sit among the highest jurists."

You probably weren't around for Reagan's pledge (I was just 25), but you had no problem with there being ZERO Black females on Trump's list. But if Biden releases his short list (which he hasn't) and there are ZERO white women, then THAT will suddenly be a problem? Less than 3 yrs after ZERO Black women on Trump's short list wasn't a problem?

So my non-racist friend, why is Coney Barrett more qualified than someone like either of the two assumed front runners Brown Jackson or Kruger? Do you think Biden is just choosing someone off the street? If you had no problem with Coney Barrett, why would you have a problem with Brown Jackson? Qualifications? I'm really interested in YOUR answer... Since you're obviously not a racist... Maybe you're really just a hypocrite?

 
I don't know which is the more astonishing claim you're trying to make... That you're not a racist, even though you've mentioned race in nearly every post in this thread? Or that Biden is "politicizing" the SCOTUS in a manner that apparently none of his predecessors (including our crazy-ex) ever did?

Do you know when Black women were first elected to the Bar, and thus (theoretically) eligible to be appointed to SCOTUS? Charlotte Ray- 1872...

So in your mind, Biden's pledge to address a wrong is somehow worse than the deliberate exclusion of a particular race/gender historically? This is addressed to people like you...



"Just two days after the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and just weeks before the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump declared he would limit his search for her replacement to only qualified female candidates.


"It will be a woman -- a very talented, very brilliant woman," Trump said during a Sept. 20, 2020, rally in North Carolina. "We haven't chosen yet, but we have numerous women on the list." He went on to nominate now-Justice Amy Coney Barrett a month later."


As the GOP nominee challenging Jimmy Carter in 1980, Ronald Reagan publicly promised -- weeks before the election -- that he would name a woman to the Supreme Court if given the chance.

"I am announcing today that one of the first Supreme Court vacancies in my administration will be filled by the most qualified woman I can possibly find," Reagan said at an Oct. 15 news conference in Los Angeles. "It is time for a woman to sit among the highest jurists."

You probably weren't around for Reagan's pledge (I was just 25), but you had no problem with there being ZERO Black females on Trump's list. But if Biden releases his short list (which he hasn't) and there are ZERO white women, then THAT will suddenly be a problem? Less than 3 yrs after ZERO Black women on Trump's short list wasn't a problem?

So my non-racist friend, why is Coney Barrett more qualified than someone like either of the two assumed front runners Brown Jackson or Kruger? Do you think Biden is just choosing someone off the street? If you had no problem with Coney Barrett, why would you have a problem with Brown Jackson? Qualifications? I'm really interested in YOUR answer... Since you're obviously not a racist... Maybe you're really just a hypocrite?

What wrong is being addressed? The Sct isn't a representative role. It's not elected. 9 spots. Black women represent 1 maybe 2 percent of the entire bar?
 
Why pick nits? Cosmic has Bailey dead to rights. Let him enjoy the victory.
I was just thinking about this notion of addressing a wrong. I don't agree with it at the S.Ct. level. I think the more salient matter to address is why black women are probably 1 or 2 percent of the bar. And I"m guessing at that percentage based on blacks of both genders being 5%. Efforts should be made to increase those figures
 
I was just thinking about this notion of addressing a wrong. I don't agree with it at the S.Ct. level. I think the more salient matter to address is why black women are probably 1 or 2 percent of the bar. And I"m guessing at that percentage based on blacks of both genders being 5%. Efforts should be made to increase those figures
Emphasis on diversity, equity, and inclusion won’t fix anything. All that does is make white elites feel better about the elite institutions they work in.

The real fix starts in elementary education. We’ve had government ECE for disadvantaged kids for a generation now. That ain’t working. The Democrat answer is to make ECE bigger. Ugh. No, the real answer lies in a basic overhaul of K-12 education that would inclde choice, meaningful accountability, more rigorous teacher education and better pay for teachers.
 
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I don't know which is the more astonishing claim you're trying to make... That you're not a racist, even though you've mentioned race in nearly every post in this thread? Or that Biden is "politicizing" the SCOTUS in a manner that apparently none of his predecessors (including our crazy-ex) ever did?

Do you know when Black women were first elected to the Bar, and thus (theoretically) eligible to be appointed to SCOTUS? Charlotte Ray- 1872...

So in your mind, Biden's pledge to address a wrong is somehow worse than the deliberate exclusion of a particular race/gender historically? This is addressed to people like you...



"Just two days after the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg and just weeks before the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump declared he would limit his search for her replacement to only qualified female candidates.


"It will be a woman -- a very talented, very brilliant woman," Trump said during a Sept. 20, 2020, rally in North Carolina. "We haven't chosen yet, but we have numerous women on the list." He went on to nominate now-Justice Amy Coney Barrett a month later."


As the GOP nominee challenging Jimmy Carter in 1980, Ronald Reagan publicly promised -- weeks before the election -- that he would name a woman to the Supreme Court if given the chance.

"I am announcing today that one of the first Supreme Court vacancies in my administration will be filled by the most qualified woman I can possibly find," Reagan said at an Oct. 15 news conference in Los Angeles. "It is time for a woman to sit among the highest jurists."

You probably weren't around for Reagan's pledge (I was just 25), but you had no problem with there being ZERO Black females on Trump's list. But if Biden releases his short list (which he hasn't) and there are ZERO white women, then THAT will suddenly be a problem? Less than 3 yrs after ZERO Black women on Trump's short list wasn't a problem?

So my non-racist friend, why is Coney Barrett more qualified than someone like either of the two assumed front runners Brown Jackson or Kruger? Do you think Biden is just choosing someone off the street? If you had no problem with Coney Barrett, why would you have a problem with Brown Jackson? Qualifications? I'm really interested in YOUR answer... Since you're obviously not a racist... Maybe you're really just a hypocrite?

If I were a senator, the first question I’d ask Biden’s nominee is: “you are sitting before this committee because the president said it was important to for a black female to be a member of the court. Do you believe a black female should interpret and apply the due process clause, or the commerce, clause differently than a white male?
 
If I were a senator, the first question I’d ask Biden’s nominee is: “you are sitting before this committee because the president said it was important to for a black female to be a member of the court. Do you believe a black female should interpret and apply the due process clause, or the commerce, clause differently than a white male?
Of course you would.
 
If I were a senator, the first question I’d ask Biden’s nominee is: “you are sitting before this committee because the president said it was important to for a black female to be a member of the court. Do you believe a black female should interpret and apply the due process clause, or the commerce, clause differently than a white male?
"No, Senator, I am sitting here because the president nominated me as eminently qualified for the position. Now, do you have any questions regarding my qualifications?"
 
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"No, Senator, I am sitting here because the president nominated me as eminently qualified for the position. Now, do you have any questions regarding my qualifications?
No the why has an asterisk because Biden was vote pandering. He should have just done it and not provided vote-pandering notice. The asterisk reads: most qualified of all eligible black females.

And that's a shame
 
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"No, Senator, I am sitting here because the president nominated me as eminently qualified for the position. Now, do you have any questions regarding my qualifications?"
Don’t be a dumbass. My question focuses on Biden, not on the nominee. I would give her an open door to explain race and gender won’t matter to her.
 
Don’t be a dumbass. My question focuses on Biden, not on the nominee. I would give her an open door to explain race and gender won’t matter to her.
Maybe it looks like you're just being a standard Senate asshole to you, but to the hypothetical nominee, it very much looks like you find it unfathomable that a black woman might be nominated because she's qualified.
 
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No the why has an asterisk because Biden was vote pandering. He should have just done it and not provided vote-pandering notice. The asterisk reads: most qualified of all eligible black females.

And that's a shame
"And I'd ask the gentleman from Missouri to please wait his turn to speak."
 
Maybe it looks like you're just being a standard Senate asshole to you, but to the hypothetical nominee, it very much looks like you find it unfathomable that a black woman might be nominated because she's qualified.
You are kinda right. I deliberately did leave an alternative path for her to blow the answer, like you did.

The purpose of the hearing, and my question, is to test her qualifications. No? I don't think there is a presumption either way.
 
You are kinda right. I deliberately did leave an alternative path for her to blow the answer, like you did.

The purpose of the hearing, and my question, is to test her qualifications. No? I don't think there is a presumption either way.
No, the purpose of your question was to attack Biden. You said so yourself. If you want to test qualifications, my nominee repeats her first answer.
 
No, the purpose of your question was to attack Biden. You said so yourself. If you want to test qualifications, my nominee repeats her first answer.
Rejecting Biden’s litmus test is the answer a self-assured qualified applicant would give. Your answer is way too defensive for a jurist.
 
What wrong is being addressed? The Sct isn't a representative role. It's not elected. 9 spots. Black women represent 1 maybe 2 percent of the entire bar?
You're responding to the same guy who claims Lois Lerner was not targeting Conservative groups. So, take it with a grain of salt.
 
I haven't bought my judicial "baseball" cards lately to know who the MVP candidates are, but I suspect it is not like there is a Tom Brady and a bunch of Ryan Leafs. I suspect there are many "very qualified" and it is crazy to think none are Black women. But if we are going there, do Republicans only find Catholics qualified?
 
Here is the real problem with what Biden has done and Ronnie did:

It is massively unfair to the nominee if she is indeed black as signaled. She may be very qualified but will always have the "quota" tag hanging over her that Biden put squarely on her.

Dumbass move.
 
Well, what would your first question be?
"President Reagan promised to nominate a woman to the Supreme Court. He kept his promise. President Trump promised to nominate a woman to the Supreme Court. He also kept his promise. My esteemed and long-serving colleague from Colorado never raised any concerns that the promises made by these presidents might - fairly or unfairly - call into question the qualifications of Justices O'Connor or Barrett.

"Now, President Biden has promised to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court, and here you are. My question to you is this: As a black woman jurist, can you think of any reason why the promise to nominate a woman to the Court would not raise any concerns about the eventual candidate's qualifications, but the promise to nominate a black woman would?"

Not a serious question, or one the nominee should answer, but the kind of question the political hacks on the committee would ask to draw blood from each other, and exactly the kind of question my esteemed colleague from Colorado would deserve after his despicable display.
 
As a black woman jurist, can you think of any reason why the promise to nominate a woman to the Court would not raise any concerns about the eventual candidate's qualifications, but the promise to nominate a black woman would?"
That would be a good question (for a senator :) ) but a question that we already know the answer to. I've always known that when Reagan, Trump, and Biden made those promises it was just to get votes. The ironic thing is that the statements more than likely helped Reagan and Trump more that Biden because he already had all the black vote. I guess it's possible that he picked up some women votes but I kind of doubt it made any difference to most women.
 
That would be a good question (for a senator :) ) but a question that we already know the answer to. I've always known that when Reagan, Trump, and Biden made those promises it was just to get votes. The ironic thing is that the statements more than likely helped Reagan and Trump more that Biden because he already had all the black vote. I guess it's possible that he picked up some women votes but I kind of doubt it made any difference to most women.
He should have promised to pick an illegal alien to serve on the court...oh wait, they're all allowed in to vote for Dems anyway.
 
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The ironic thing is that the statements more than likely helped Reagan and Trump more that Biden because he already had all the black vote. I guess it's possible that he picked up some women votes but I kind of doubt it made any difference to most women.

According to an account I heard on NPR yesterday, Clyburn got word to Biden during the debate that he needed to make that pledge, and Biden did. Days later he got Clyburn's endorsement.
 
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That would be a good question (for a senator :) ) but a question that we already know the answer to. I've always known that when Reagan, Trump, and Biden made those promises it was just to get votes. The ironic thing is that the statements more than likely helped Reagan and Trump more that Biden because he already had all the black vote. I guess it's possible that he picked up some women votes but I kind of doubt it made any difference to most women.
Regardless of why they did it, claiming to have a problem with it on principle only some of the time is the hallmark of partisan hackery. It is the partisan hackery of the fake Senator from Colorado I am concerned with at the moment, not the vote-whoring of Presidents Reagan, Trump, or Biden.
 
Regardless of why they did it, claiming to have a problem with it on principle only some of the time is the hallmark of partisan hackery. It is the partisan hackery of the fake Senator from Colorado I am concerned with at the moment, not the vote-whoring of Presidents Reagan, Trump, or Biden.

The differences between your esteemed Senator from Colorado and Bailey, Cray, or Dan are purely cosmetic.
 
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It is the partisan hackery of the fake Senator from Colorado I am concerned with at the moment
What I've notice thru the years is that it's partisan hackery when the opposition does something but isn't when their side does it.
 
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According to an account I heard on NPR yesterday, Clyburn got word to Biden during the debate that he needed to make that pledge, and Biden did. Days later he got Clyburn's endorsement.
I read that somewhere where also.
 
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