Well, Baldwin makes his living in a business that thrives on creating the illusion of reality. Why wouldn't he create a scenario in which he is completely blameless. In this case, it's Alex's perception of reality versus the FBI's science. Alex v. the FBI, tough call! I 'd say just follow the science but, that doesn't help either.
Alec Baldwin fired prop gun that killed woman on film set of Rust
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Nothing will ever happen to him ever. Case closedHis house is being raided any second right?
BREAKING: FBI concludes Alec Baldwin pulled trigger in Halyna Hutchins shooting on movie set
An FBI analysis shows that the hammer to the gun that shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins had to have been fully cocked and the trigger pulled for it to fire.thepostmillennial.com
I think that's Alec's twin brother. It confuses a lot of people.
To be fair...
www.nytimes.com
Alec Baldwin and Others Could Face Charges in ‘Rust’ Shooting, D.A. Says
In a funding request, the Santa Fe County district attorney said that up to four people potentially face criminal charges in the shooting death of a cinematographer on a film set last year.
Alec Baldwin hit with involuntary manslaughter in death of Halyna Hutchins, facing up to 18 months in prison
Alec Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Halyna Hutchins. The cinematographer died after a gun Baldwin was holding fired on the set of "Rust."
Now THAT, is an SNL skit I would actually enjoy.Alec Baldwin hit with involuntary manslaughter in death of Halyna Hutchins, facing up to 18 months in prison
Alec Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Halyna Hutchins. The cinematographer died after a gun Baldwin was holding fired on the set of "Rust."www.foxnews.com
4th degree felony. 18 months. I doubt he does a day. He'll go get the best crim defense guy in that county and smack the prosecutor's office around. Then they'll announce a dealAlec Baldwin hit with involuntary manslaughter in death of Halyna Hutchins, facing up to 18 months in prison
Alec Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Halyna Hutchins. The cinematographer died after a gun Baldwin was holding fired on the set of "Rust."
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If I'm Baldwin, I go to trial. I think he'd have a decent chance on appeal even if convincted, unless they have some damning proof that as the producer, he OK'd a bunch of outrageous cost-cutting measures including safety ones. Like someone testifies "I told him if we don't have this person on set, someone could get shot. And he responded, 'I don't care.'"
Maybe. They already found enough to charge him. And I don't know what the people in that county are like. If they knock it down to a misd on a plea deal i'd just be done with it. he is old with 37 kids and a young wife. i wouldn't want to F with all that. he needs saul goodman
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Don't forget the civil trial to follow and his Hollywood career. He needs to clear his name.
i think he already settled that. and i'm sure he has a massive homeowners policy if not
I like him as an actor. I think he’s a jerk, in large part because he’s been an actor. And my guess is he will fight this with all of the liberal, social justice warrior, virtue-signaling gusto he can still drum up. And I would aid his defense. He is a freaking actor. It is not his job to make sure that the fantasy world created in the fantasy place so they can film it and make people pay to watch the fantasy doesn’t include real bullets in the gun they tell him to pick up, point around, and pull the trigger. This is like suing a stewardess because the pilot crashed the plane.
Agreed. That said i don't have the benefit of whatever info the prosecutor's office has. presumably they found enough to charge him so.... and presumably, not to be a dick, they have enough self-awareness to recognize that they probably aren't the A team and will be out of their league with whoever is the top lawyer in town that baldwin will retain. ah shit maybe they want a televised trial. parlay it into a tv show or court host or something
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I missed that. Thanks for the catch.
Kinda icky settlement terms:
Alec Baldwin and the production company behind the troubled Western "Rust" have reached a settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was fatally shot on the movie's set last fall.
As part of the settlement announced Wednesday, her husband Matthew Hutchins will serve as an executive producer on the movie, which plans to resume production in January. He was a plaintiff in the suit along with the couple's 9-year-old son, Andros.
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I think there were multiple civil suits. Not sure if all have been settled.
The assistant director who called cold gun before handing it to Baldwin has already signed a plea deal. I assume that means he's the key witness to show how unsafe the production was with crew walking off over safety concerns and the armorer being green.
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I get it, but just how green do you have to be not to look inside the gun? Do you need to be an armorer for that?
I assume it's all about liability coverage on the set and SAG type rules & regs, but I don't know the details.
That's kind of my argument with the idea that Baldwin isn't responsible in some way. You should never take someone else's word for it when you're handed a firearm in the real world. The first thing you do is check to see if there's one on the pipe.
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But that's the key: he wasn't in the "real" world. He was an actor, on a set, pretending with what he had every reason to believe was a prop.
No doubt, though, from now on, the policy on all sets will be for the actor to also check.
he fired what he knew was a real gun at someone, because someone told him it wasn't loaded, without checking himself to make sure it wasn't loaded.
the fact that that may be common practice on set doesn't excuse it.
Baldwin has to take some legal responsibility, as does the one who told him it wasn't loaded.
that said,
A) no excuse for using a real gun in the first place.
B), hopefully in the future, the shooter themself will always check it themself, despite what they were told.
question for the board lawyers,
this happens daily in the US where someone shoots another with a gun they thought wasn't loaded.
how do those cases usually come out?
the fact that that may be common practice on set doesn't excuse it.
Baldwin has to take some legal responsibility, as does the one who told him it wasn't loaded.
that said,
A) no excuse for using a real gun in the first place.
B), hopefully in the future, the shooter themself will always check it themself, despite what they were told.
question for the board lawyers,
this happens daily in the US where someone shoots another with a gun they thought wasn't loaded.
how do those cases usually come out?
There was a lot of crowd noise in Hollywood when this happened from people who said they'd never again use real firearms in their movies. I'd venture a guess that it will go that direction before you see actors forced to check, although I'm sure there will be those who will insist on checking for themselves.
Separate topic - If there were any depos from the civil suits, are those admissible in a criminal trial?
depends on the facts. if it was a true accident/unintentional the plaintiff can tap the defendant's homeowners policy if they have a home and recover some dough. without the benefit of the context of a movie set the shooter will likely do some time - how long depends on priors, facts, condition of the defendant etc. big difference between shooting your buddy by accident with the new gun you were showing him and robbing a liquor store and using a gun to scare the worker and not knowing it was loaded
Normally I'd agree. But Baldwin is such an unlikable asshole, I doubt his lawyers would want him on the stand. I realize he's an actor, but he can't hide his smarmy attitude.
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Depends on the state's laws and the circumstances and I don't know New Mexico's. Typically, though, you can use prior inconsistent statements to impeach a witness.
To people who are unfamiliar with firearms, they might not think to check.
It's common sense to most people, but I'm Baldwin thought he shouldn't need to check it himself - 'other people' are supposed to do that. In fact, they should have. Have you seen the credits after a movies. I'm surprised they don't list who wipes their ass.
in addition to what brad said he wouldn't have answered anything incriminating. unless his lawyer is mental. he shouldn't have been doing a tv tour
He could also simply answer: Guess what. Guess what. I don't recall
Justin Bieber -- VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION -- Like You've Never Seen Him ... And It's Bad
Justin Bieber can be insulting, arrogant, snotty, ignorant and disrespectful ... and all in one sitting -- because that's exactly what he was like during his deposition last week in the lawsuit where his bodyguard allegedly beat up a photog.
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shooting someone by accident while showing him your new gun, imo isn't the same as aiming it at him and pulling the trigger, thinking it wasn't loaded.
i'd think any time you aim a real gun at someone and pull the trigger thinking it isn't loaded without looking, is criminally negligent behavior.
the movie set with someone supposedly in charge of such things is a new wrinkle in that no doubt.
that said, makes me think of my drivers ed days back in the mid 1960s.
seem to recall my teacher saying that in a wreck, the person with the last clear chance to avoid the accident is at fault.
in this case, Baldwin would be that person.
a tragic accident, but an easily avoided one.
regardless how the legal side comes out, hard to think Baldwin ever recovers emotionally.
Bieber deposition? I'm not falling for no banana in the tailpipe.He could also simply answer: Guess what. Guess what. I don't recall
Justin Bieber -- VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION -- Like You've Never Seen Him ... And It's Bad
Justin Bieber can be insulting, arrogant, snotty, ignorant and disrespectful ... and all in one sitting -- because that's exactly what he was like during his deposition last week in the lawsuit where his bodyguard allegedly beat up a photog.
I assume Baldwin wouldn't say much if anything, I was wondering about the others who were bringing the suits or those who were ancillary to Baldwin. I've only been deposed once and that was more than enough for me, but a couple of other people who were deposed as part of the same suit were absolutely running their mouths at near the redline in some instances in an effort to be "helpful".
That Bieber clip is a classic. I absolutely love the “guess what. Guess what. I don’t recall”
A woman/wife/mother is dead, man. Pump the brakes a bit.
#aspirations #goalz
Umbrellas everywhere probaby
Marica Clark did really well after the OJ case. Darden, not so much.
aka The Hillary DefenseHe could also simply answer: Guess what. Guess what. I don't recall
Justin Bieber -- VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION -- Like You've Never Seen Him ... And It's Bad
Justin Bieber can be insulting, arrogant, snotty, ignorant and disrespectful ... and all in one sitting -- because that's exactly what he was like during his deposition last week in the lawsuit where his bodyguard allegedly beat up a photog.
