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Would you take up arms to oppose an illegitimate Trump third term?

Would you take up arms to oppose an illegitimate Trump third term?


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Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice…

Elect
choose (someone) to hold public office or some other position by voting

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Considering states were unable to keep Trump off the ballot, the first question seems to be whether or not he could be on ballots. I can envision about six members of SCOTUS taking the position that A XXII doesn’t prevent his appearance on ballots.

Furthermore, I can envision those same six using that definition of elect to set the unprecedented precedent of ruling A XXII unconstitutional insofar as it essentially stipulates that American citizens cannot vote for whomever they want. (Read the definition of elect carefully and you’ll see what I mean.)

For those who suggest that that’s the wrong definition of elect, I remind you that those six choose their whimsical definition, not you and I also remind you, Roe v. Wade….

One final point. Even if Trump is not on any given ballot, people have the option of writing in their candidate of choice.

So the question becomes, if Trump wins the electoral college through write-in votes, what next?

One final note, once upon a time said poster AlohaHoosier lost a certain wager that Trump would not get the RNC nomination. Doubters and skeptics beware…

One final comment: Once upon a time I flippantly stated “Good-bye Roe v. Wade,” after SCOTUS attained a 5-4 advantage. Goat and other liberal lawyers assured me that wasn’t possible if you studied the amendment. I did and the logic seemed flimsy and riddled with weaknesses. So if you’re not a lawyer here, STAY STRONG!
I stopped reading at your prediction that 6 justices of the SCt would find a constitutional amendment "unconstitutional."
 
Then you missed the part where we lawyers assured him Roe was safe because of "the amendment."
Thanks for that catch, Goat!

Incidentally, Brad’s objection was not a miss-type on my part. The point is, the current SCOTUS Big Six could easily rationalize an originalist interpretation of the original Constitution to argue A XXII is “unconstitutional.” The apparent illogic of my assertion is precisely the illogic they’re prone to use.*

Evidently Brad doesn’t think they wear logic repellent.

*As an aside, is there any measure coded into the Constitution to address contradictions inadvertently amended into the Constitution?
 
I know this is a bizarre hypothetical, but I just talked to a very intelligent, very progressive friend now in Seattle. She insists that Trump will seriously try to stay in office after his second term and that he is already laying the groundwork for it (without a Constitutional amendment). I pushed back, but eventually said I would take up arms to prevent that, if need be. As I reflect on it, though, I'm not sure I would--maybe I would leave the country?

I don't know, but thought I'd ask the group. I'm particularly interested in seeing what our MAGA supporters' responses are. By illegitimate, I mean the Constitution doesn't change and the SCt doesn't rule that a third term is legally possible.
I don’t think your friend is ans intelligent as you think she is.
 
Thanks for that catch, Goat!

Incidentally, Brad’s objection was not a miss-type on my part. The point is, the current SCOTUS Big Six could easily rationalize an originalist interpretation of the original Constitution to argue A XXII is “unconstitutional.” The apparent illogic of my assertion is precisely the illogic they’re prone to use.*

Evidently Brad doesn’t think they wear logic repellent.

*As an aside, is there any measure coded into the Constitution to address contradictions inadvertently amended into the Constitution?
Ok, you got me. Another satire/troll account.
 
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Harvard Law. So not dumb, even if trapped in a bubble. A lot of intelligent people are.

Re Seattle, she just moved there. From NYC.
I think I’ve posted it here before but we have a physician friend - a single mother - who is basically a BlueAnon member.

She’s told us she thinks she needs to put aside her hatred of the second amendment because she might need a gun when Trump starts hunting democrats.

There is professional and academic intelligence and then there is real life intelligence. Your friend has 2 of the 3.
 
Harvard Law. So not dumb, even if trapped in a bubble. A lot of intelligent people are.

Re Seattle, she just moved there. From NYC.
I think I’ve posted it here before but we have a physician friend - a single mother - who is basically a BlueAnon member.

She’s told us she thinks she needs to put aside her hatred of the second amendment because she might need a gun when Trump starts hunting democrats.

There is professional and academic intelligence and then there is real life intelligence. Your friend has 2 of the 3.
I have the answer. B#tches be crazy.
 
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Thanks for that catch, Goat!

Incidentally, Brad’s objection was not a miss-type on my part. The point is, the current SCOTUS Big Six could easily rationalize an originalist interpretation of the original Constitution to argue A XXII is “unconstitutional.” The apparent illogic of my assertion is precisely the illogic they’re prone to use.*

Evidently Brad doesn’t think they wear logic repellent.

*As an aside, is there any measure coded into the Constitution to address contradictions inadvertently amended into the Constitution?
There is no contradiction. The Amendment . . .ah . . .trumps any previous inconsistency.
 
I think they would all hesitate just long enough to allow things to get really really ugly.

If I had to pick one that might stand up to Trump, I'd go with Pete... after he'd had several snorts to get his courage up.
It would be Marco. Vengence for the 'Little Marco' putdown. Like Michael in the Godfather - no one thinks he'd be the one to do it.

Those Cubans don't forget.
 
We will never find out if hes going to get a third term because he won’t survive that long. He’ll either get picked off by a Big Mac or another crazy conservative.
I was thinking by a Ukrainian.....
 
Just stop making the whole world about Trump.

If you would ask “should any president be elected to a third term?” I would answer “No.”
To me it isn't all about Trump, my answer to that question for any of them would be no. We can't get mad about questions like this, well, because:


It is at least a popular enough idea for that to happen.
 
Harvard Law. So not dumb, even if trapped in a bubble. A lot of intelligent people are.

Re Seattle, she just moved there. From NYC.
My dad worked as maintenance supervisor at an assisted living/nursing home place.

One of the kitchen workers was a Harvard Law grad. Smart as hell with zero social skills. Not saying your friend is that, but the more I know about Harvard, the less I'm impressed with a degree from there.
 
My dad worked as maintenance supervisor at an assisted living/nursing home place.

One of the kitchen workers was a Harvard Law grad. Smart as hell with zero social skills. Not saying your friend is that, but the more I know about Harvard, the less I'm impressed with a degree from there.
It's a simple Pay for an open door to the C suites school
 
Name someone who threatened to leave if Kamala was elected, HIck.
Sorry I wasn't here back then but if your contention is no conservative has ever threatened to leave if their pick lost then I have oceanfront property in Indiana to sell you.
 
Trump won’t rule out seeking a third term in the White House, tells NBC News ‘there are methods’ for doing so

I’m about as far away politically from Bernie Sanders and AOC as a person can be. But I wouldn’t hesitate a moment to cast a vote for either one of them if Trump’s name is anywhere on the same ballot. I’d probably even send them some cash.

I don’t know if he’s saying this stuff to troll his critics or not. But, whatever his motivation, it’s unconscionable and indefensible.
 
Trump won’t rule out seeking a third term in the White House, tells NBC News ‘there are methods’ for doing so

I’m about as far away politically from Bernie Sanders and AOC as a person can be. But I wouldn’t hesitate a moment to cast a vote for either one of them if Trump’s name is anywhere on the same ballot. I’d probably even send them some cash.

I don’t know if he’s saying this stuff to troll his critics or not. But, whatever his motivation, it’s unconscionable and indefensible.
They could try to repeal the 22nd, but they'd need every Trump state plus 7 blue states to do it.
 
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Trump won’t rule out seeking a third term in the White House, tells NBC News ‘there are methods’ for doing so

I’m about as far away politically from Bernie Sanders and AOC as a person can be. But I wouldn’t hesitate a moment to cast a vote for either one of them if Trump’s name is anywhere on the same ballot. I’d probably even send them some cash.

I don’t know if he’s saying this stuff to troll his critics or not. But, whatever his motivation, it’s unconscionable and indefensible.


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They could try to repeal the 22nd, but they'd need every Trump state plus 7 blue states to do it.
Biden set precedent with his EO that made the ERA part of the constitution.

See ya in court.


Made me a little queasy writing that.
 
They could try to repeal the 22nd, but they'd need every Trump state plus 7 blue states to do it.

I would be just as fiercely opposed to that horrible idea.

However, I’d gladly welcome an Article 5 convention. If one is convened, anything can be put on the table. And we might actually get something positive out of it.
 
Biden set precedent with his EO that made the ERA part of the constitution.

See ya in court.


Made me a little queasy writing that.

What Biden did there was ridiculous and pointless. It also isn’t recognized by anybody who matters.

But, what he did aside, do you support Trump saying what he’s saying here?
 
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I know this is a bizarre hypothetical, but I just talked to a very intelligent, very progressive friend now in Seattle. She insists that Trump will seriously try to stay in office after his second term and that he is already laying the groundwork for it (without a Constitutional amendment). I pushed back, but eventually said I would take up arms to prevent that, if need be. As I reflect on it, though, I'm not sure I would--maybe I would leave the country?

I don't know, but thought I'd ask the group. I'm particularly interested in seeing what our MAGA supporters' responses are. By illegitimate, I mean the Constitution doesn't change and the SCt doesn't rule that a third term is legally possible.
Trump hasn’t ruled out a third term and says “there are ways.” However, I think there is no way. States won’t even let him on the ballot, I’m sure. Right?
 
Trump wipes his ass with our beloved Constitution, and still his cultists will come up with whaddabouts
No candidate for VP can be ineligible to be President. That pesky Constitution, once again.
Not clear. 22 and 12 could be reviewed by s Ct. I know you’re desperate to get your cult back in office and open the border defund cops mask up and chop up the privates of minors but you and your woke cultists have to be patient.
 
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