I keep hearing about how good of a coach Archie is, but I doubt I'd be hearing that praise if Morgan, a Tom Crean recruit, wasn't around to bail out his teams. Without Morgan, Archie's first two seasons would be among the worst we've ever seen at IU. No one can shoot, no one can hit a freethrow, and turnovers galore. IU would be an embarrassment and lucky to win any games without Morgan.
What would Archie's record be without Morgan?
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This may be the stupidest thing I've ever read. Take the best player off any team and the record of the head coach will be negatively affected.
I don't know. OSU lost its best couple players and is playing just as well this season as last.
All you need to look at to see if Archie can coach is the defense the past 2 years compared to before. There has been constant improvement on the defensive end and one player can't guard 5 so someone else has to be doing something right. That's a testament to good coaching. On the offensive side, we are definitely stagnant and need to work on limiting turnovers; however, we still have one of the highest field goal percentages in the country and generate good looks and high percentage shots when we don't turn it over. Is the team anywhere close to its ceiling? I for sure hope not. But saying that Morgan is the only saving grace of this team discredits the work put in by every other player and the coaching staff the past couple years. Also, if you think Juwan would have been even close to this dominant in Tom Crean's run and gun system, you're just plain wrong.
How good would Phil Jackson have been without Michael Jordan or Kobe? For F's sake...
I don’t see why you have to go and insult all really dumb stuff like that. Really dumb would be an improvement.
This is a dumb ass post. What would the Colts record have been without Peyton Manning? Get lost moron.
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We just turned the ball over almost 20 times and pretty much didn’t lead the whol game. Guess what? We still won! You know why? Defense. Phinisee locked his guy down the last 6-8 minutes. Butler got tired and faded. You know why? We made them work for every single shot. This is a sign of good coaching.
I hope you're just a troll Purdue or UK (or Butler) fan and aren't seriously really this stupid.
Improving the defense is not a difficult thing to do when the previous coach's defense was non-existent.
"How good would coach x's record be if we took away their best players?"
Probably not nearly as good, me thinks.
Probably not nearly as good, me thinks.
Would Purdue win a conference game this year without Edward's?
No. We won because of Morgan's offense and Butler's inability to stop him, and a lucky buzzer beating shot by Phinisee.
What would Indiana’s record be without Archie?
Not as good. I imagine.
Not as good. I imagine.
They have come a long way though. Fundamentally better.
Also, they stopped turning it over and it changed the outcome of the game.
They might struggle to win one more with him
Are you kidding me quite possibly the dumbest comment i have heard in a while. CAM is light years ahead of crean, when he is able to get his players through a full cycle watch out. It will be similar to what we all are a custom to in watching IU hoops. Sure he is utilizing the hand he was dealt personnel wise but we could still have that clown we used to have and i think we can all agree that not many people wish to have that guy back on the sideline and his roster management
You mean a coach who has had one full recruiting class (that nobody in their right mind would knock in ANY way)? What point are you trying to make? That he is still largely coaching Crean's recruits? Why are basic logic skills so lacking? Our senior AA candidate captain should be the guy we depend on, right?
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So Morgan scores all the points? Last I saw Phinisee hit the winner. It wasn’t a lazy shot either. Squared up and let it fly. Dumbest thread and post goes to you.
IU is 9-2. Knight, Davis, Sampson, Crean, none would necessarily be 10-1.
One thing to remember is Miller is a very young guy relative to the profession. He still has room to grow as a big stage coach.
Look at all Beilein, Self, Williams, or Marshall accomplished in the life years still ahead for Archie.
One thing to remember is Miller is a very young guy relative to the profession. He still has room to grow as a big stage coach.
Look at all Beilein, Self, Williams, or Marshall accomplished in the life years still ahead for Archie.
IU held Butler to 9 points in the last 10 minutes of the game. That’s what won the game.. and Crean teams could never play defense.
My point is that without Morgan, a Tom Crean recruit, IU would be so awful in Archie's first two seasons that many people here would be extremely displeased and questioning whether we got the right man for the job.
I'm not sure we got the right guy. Next year Archie will be in his 3rd season, Morgan will be gone, and we'll finally see what Archie is made of. At this point, without Morgan, I'm leaning towards the belief that next year will not turn out so well.
This is remarkably stupid. If you took the best player off any team, they would struggle.
Exceptionally stupid post. Thanks for that.
Butler tried to take away Romeo but had no answer for Juwan. Hence, the onslaught by Morgan. Take what they give you.
I'd bet you $50 now that next year IU will be ranked top 25 for at least 5 weeks of the season. Ready to bet?
IU kept them 8 under their average. That is pretty good defense in my book.
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