Oh is one person the FBI now? Yeah the FBI is definitely a liberal organization. Lol. Or maybe they were smart enough they just didn’t want a lunatic in office.
What to make of the Durham filing?
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It’s so funny you keep using that when you really don’t understand the Mueller report. Not surprising though.
You have made a breakthrough! Finally understanding what you voted for!
The fact that Sussman is in trial debunks every freaking one of you and the left msm arm that lead us here. Btwn the Steele dossier and now this every damn left msm article or piece of news regarding collusion is bullshit and especially Mueller. Whenever I even see someone bring that up it just proves how uninformed the left is. It's really sad too that the msm has tricked its viewers into believing the narrative they wanted to create. It's even been brought up in this case already how quickly they ran this to the media.
It should make all of us mad.
All of it was an attempt to keep a non politician out of politics and especially one that threatened every deep seeded corrupt political hack already in DC. It could have happened to anyone that messaged the same.
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"Bad teachers who permeate their teaching with political indoctrination are blameworthy and need to be stopped. If you don’t know the difference between teaching and indoctrination, or don’t care about that difference, you don’t belong in a classroom"
I'd think your promotion of the notion that this is 1 sided is beneath you and more in line with ftw , cray, DANC etc... level thinking. It's kind of strange you folks are attacking zeke for some imagined, fantasy level accusation of indoctrinating her students, when the reality is it is actually happening on the other side of the aisle and in a way that demeans and debases others...
So would you direct the words you baselessly directed towards zeke, to this lunatic that is an actual purveyor of harmful propaganda? Something tells me zeke was an extremely popular educator with her students and their parents...
A school board member justified bigotry with Jesus. This mom wasn't having it.
After Colorado school board member Jamilynn D’Avola told a child Jesus justified her bigoted views, mom Lacy Carroll pushed back.
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Maybe it's a function of our respective sources. But while I'm sure you can point to instances of people feeling teachers are indoctrinating their kids from a "progressive" viewpoint, I'm equally sure I can provide just as many (if not more) of teachers showing religious bigotry or espousing unwelcome right wing talking points to students in their class/school, and esp in the case of wacko substitutes coming in and abusing kids verbally...
Should we have a competition?
Well that was certainly true during the Trump admin...
Not just Trump and his own devil brood... Mikey Flynn and Jr (both influence peddlers for Turkey), Rudy and his brat (Andrew- special Asst to the President
), Huckabee and his daughter Sarah...Should I go on?
Wonder what reason Baker will give or having given multiple accounts of how Sussman answered the question about who he worked for? His own notes as well as the way he recounted the meeting with Sussman to numerous other people, would appear to make him a less than reliable witness. I guess that's what cross-examination exists for...
You got it wrong. Your post is tunnel-visioned."Bad teachers who permeate their teaching with political indoctrination are blameworthy and need to be stopped. If you don’t know the difference between teaching and indoctrination, or don’t care about that difference, you don’t belong in a classroom"
I'd think your promotion of the notion that this is 1 sided is beneath you and more in line with ftw , cray, DANC etc... level thinking. It's kind of strange you folks are attacking zeke for some imagined, fantasy level accusation of indoctrinating her students, when the reality is it is actually happening on the other side of the aisle and in a way that demeans and debases others...
So would you direct the words you baselessly directed towards zeke, to this lunatic that is an actual purveyor of harmful propaganda? Something tells me zeke was an extremely popular educator with her students and their parents...
A school board member justified bigotry with Jesus. This mom wasn't having it.
After Colorado school board member Jamilynn D’Avola told a child Jesus justified her bigoted views, mom Lacy Carroll pushed back.
Maybe it's a function of our respective sources. But while I'm sure you can point to instances of people feeling teachers are indoctrinating their kids from a "progressive" viewpoint, I'm equally sure I can provide just as many (if not more) of teachers showing religious bigotry or espousing unwelcome right wing talking points to students in their class/school, and esp in the case of wacko substitutes coming in and abusing kids verbally...
Should we have a competition?
I did not blame Zeke. I blamed teachers pushing the current Dem/Social Justice Warrior stuff RIGHT NOW - as evidenced in current news. (Nobody is pushing "conservative agenda" stuff in classrooms, with the exception of the Christian school "write your gay friend a letter" story THAT I POSTED, or at least its not in the news this board has been discussing.)
Zeke complained to me that she doubted I had educators in my family, so I gave her my bona fides, and included the quote YOU included, which also does not target Zeke - unless she approves of teaching transgenderism in 3rd grade, in which case "if the school shoe fits, wear it."
You keep applying that term "hoax" as if it's a universally accepted concept rather than a Trumpian talking point. Mueller didn't believe it was a hoax, the US Senate didn't label it a hoax and Democrat constituents who comprise at least half of the country don't describe it as a hoax either.
So the only people your posts labelling it a hoax appeal to are fellow travellers. The same people who believe the Big Lie and post nonsense about Clinton killing all of these totally inconsequential people. Do you think if you say it often enough it will catch on outside of wing nut land?
Why the Discredited Dossier Does Not Undercut the Russia Investigation
Donald J. Trump and his backers say revelations about the Steele dossier show the Russia investigation was a “hoax.” That is not what the facts indicate.
All I noticed was you jumping in with people who had been posting nonsense attacking zeke, seemingly supporting their posts. I thought it was shortsighted and beneath you, but if I'm wrong I apologize...
As to this...
"Nobody is pushing "conservative agenda" stuff in classrooms, with the exception of the Christian school "write your gay friend a letter" story THAT I POSTED, or at least its not in the news this board has been discussing.)"
The story video I posted directly contradicts that claim, and I can cite numerous other stories as well. Again I put it down to the disparity in sources between one side and the other, but I assure you there are plenty of stories of teachers having students engage in racially sensitive exercises like "slave auctions" or characterizations of slavery as a "low paying job" in textbooks still in use in private schools.
Also the entire reason I mentioned "substitutes" is because there have been a rash of substitute teachers berating kids over issues like the National Anthem or other right wing talking points. I even seem to remember a sub teacher in Bloomington getting in hot water over classroom conduct within the past couple years, but that may have been pre-pandemic...Do you not consider these "political indoctrination"?
Parent says daughters handcuffed, suspended after refusing to stand for national anthem
LaAveion Woods woke up on Thursday, September 2nd, ready to celebrate her 15th birthday. Those celebrations turned sour, however, when she and her old sister were later detained by law enforcement at their own school.
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Wonder what inspired this rhetoric...
Here is what he said:
He said he was not appearing ... on behalf of any particular client and that he had information of concern regarding a surreptitious communication channel between Alfa Bank and some servers in the United States.
You said less than reliable...
Baker is playing an innocent victim here and Patel and Nunes know he is dirty as hell. Baker is now lead counsel for Twitter and the one who called out Musk for tweeting how many bots, not people are part of Twitter, which is drawing an eye from the SEC, he has dirt all over him.
The fbi isn't on trial, Sussman is, so it is what it is.
So did all those relatives try to indoctrinate their students.? You appear to think that is the norm, instead of a minuscule percentage. As I’ve said, I won several awards, am still in touch with hundreds of my students and didn’t have a single issue with a parent ( you know the ones who actually knew about my teaching). You have such a big fear of a basically nonexistent problem, you must be around some pretty bad teachers and administrators that let it happen.uu It is Kentucky though, so I imagine the indoctrination is more to your liking. ( not referring to your family, obviously. )
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I assume your "here is what he said" applies to the testimony he gave TODAY? The problem is THAT is NOT the story he gave on multiple other occasions, including the debriefing he got from another agent later that day or within a day or two. He is on record telling others that Sussman said various other things in response to that question, and since he is the only witness and has given multiple accounts before today, I imagine the Defense will address that in cross-examination.
In fact all of this is included in various defense briefs and while the trial has proceeded to this point, the judge is on record as saying that while he felt the defense raised credible issues he didn't feel that proceedings were at a level where he could justify a summary dismissal without at least going to trial. Another problem for the prosecution is that Baker's written notes detailing his interview with Sussman are essentially in such poor handwriting that they are indecipherable.
Again, Baker has given multiple different versions of what Sussman said prior to today, and making the case that Sussman "lied" when the only actual witness to the meeting has given different accounts to others and has a faulty memory at best is going to be a very difficult case to prove to a jury. Most analysts believe that Durham went forward with this shaky case because it was all he had and he was up against a statute of limitations issue. Basically it was shit or get off the pot as far as any indictments, but I'm not sure these particular prosecutors (who I've never heard of) would qualify as the A team...
Again this is a jury trial and the concept of reasonable doubt comes in to play. This lawfare analysis from back in Sept seems to provide quite a basis for reasonable doubt...
On the Special Counsel’s Weird Prosecution of Michael Sussmann
The indictment of Michael Sussmann is far removed from the supposedly grave FBI misconduct Durham was supposed to reveal. It’s also a remarkably weak case.
www.lawfareblog.com
When did you become such an alarmist over lying to the FBI? Flynn admitted to it because it was a lesser charge than his involvement in a Turkish plot to kidnap a Turkish dissident, but all we heard from the Right was it was no big deal. So it wasn't a big deal for the NSA to not only materially lie to FBI investigators probing his communication with Russian officials concerning US official policy (energy sanctions over Crimea), but for some reason an unknown lawyer and the question of whether or not he had a client has got you atwitter?
Again Flynn plead GUILTY to lying, because he wanted to protect his son who was up to his eyeballs in a plot to kidnap an American citizen and surreptitiously turn him over to Turkish authorities. For a $ 15 Million BOUNTY... THAT didn't bother you?
Ex-Trump aide Mike Flynn 'offered $15m by Turkey for Gulen'
Michael Flynn's lawyer strongly rejects reports that he was promised millions of dollars by Turkey.
www.bbc.com
Again if the Trump campaign doesn't make moves that set off alarm bells in the spring of 2016 (hiring Manafort and Page) there is no reason for anyone to become suspicious of ties between Trump and Putin. Offici8al US policy at the time was sanctions on Putin's energy industry, because of the invasion of Crimea. So Trump hires for his campaign the architect of Putin's attempt to subvert Ukraine from within and install a puppet Government (Manafort) as well as an outspoken critic of US sanctions who brags about planning to attend a conference in Moscow later in the summer to speak against the sanctions. Who the hell does that?
So consequently, people start to wonder what the hell is going on? That's why and when the questions about Trump's ties to Putin started to alarm people...
You are so draped in 2016 msm media I can smell you from here. Omg you need help man. Get over Trump and collusion there was none. I'll never EVER trust the left or the media ever again. Trump made an announcement to dismantle them and every politician and government agency lined up against him. Your stories and media links mean nothing to me. Ive read several credible articles and videos from people in the fbi, cia, doj, and military. The way shit went down was highly abnormal. Good for you and your opinion. I'll ride with mine. And Thank your friends...The Clinton's.When did you become such an alarmist over lying to the FBI? Flynn admitted to it because it was a lesser charge than his involvement in a Turkish plot to kidnap a Turkish dissident, but all we heard from the Right was it was no big deal. So it wasn't a big deal for the NSA to not only materially lie to FBI investigators probing his communication with Russian officials concerning US official policy (energy sanctions over Crimea), but for some reason an unknown lawyer and the question of whether or not he had a client has got you atwitter?
Again Flynn plead GUILTY to lying, because he wanted to protect his son who was up to his eyeballs in a plot to kidnap an American citizen and surreptitiously turn him over to Turkish authorities. For a $ 15 Million BOUNTY... THAT didn't bother you?
Ex-Trump aide Mike Flynn 'offered $15m by Turkey for Gulen'
Michael Flynn's lawyer strongly rejects reports that he was promised millions of dollars by Turkey.
Again if the Trump campaign doesn't make moves that set off alarm bells in the spring of 2016 (hiring Manafort and Page) there is no reason for anyone to become suspicious of ties between Trump and Putin. Offici8al US policy at the time was sanctions on Putin's energy industry, because of the invasion of Crimea. So Trump hires for his campaign the architect of Putin's attempt to subvert Ukraine from within and install a puppet Government (Manafort) as well as an outspoken critic of US sanctions who brags about planning to attend a conference in Moscow later in the summer to speak against the sanctions. Who the hell does that?
So consequently, people start to wonder what the hell is going on? That's why and when the questions about Trump's ties to Putin started to alarm people...
You never link any of the "credible articles and videos" from all these credible authorities which you claim to have read. It's like they don't exist - or they're not actually credible or from credible authorities.
"Clintons" is plural for Clinton. "Clinton's" is not plural for Clinton.
Yes unfortunately I have. I'm tired of assholes shooting them down. Move on. Tired of all you dems. You and your party suck and quit saying your a pub. Show me a positive post about pubs you have posted? There should be a few since you claim you are one. Your'e a mitt romney.
AND get over Trump...You and half this board are so TDS its sickening. I've alway said if Trump is guilty hang him. He aint...Dems are. Everything is good ALOHA
Gas is 4 f*cking 59
A trip to the grocery store and what you wind up with is a joke.
Moms can't feed their babies.
Pronouns are "The Topic" of the country right now. OHHH and ufo's
We just gave our politicians a 40 billion dollar raise.
The border is FUBAR
Fentynal deaths have skyrocketed.
There is a 43% increase in police shot in 2022
101 police officers shot in line of duty, a 43% increase from 2021
The latest figure marks a 43% increase compared to the number of officers shot at the same time period in 2021 and a 63% increase compared to 2020.
nypost.com
Apartments? Find a cheap one in a decent neighborhood.
THE Stock Market is plunging!
I could go ON AND ON
Look Aloha. I'll sip this beer and ask you this? Before Covid hit under Trump was the world normal and affordable?
You can answer however you please. I WANT THAT BACK!
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Still sub and volunteer. Last regularly taught was 2014. History isn’t even taught in second grade. Indiana history starts in 4th. Not much chance to indoctrinate.
Wow. That’s back in the stone age when boys didn’t menstruate.
it is going to be up to the jury, and they may well decide Baker is telling the truth. If so, I am fine with that. But I suspect the defense will bring in people to respond to Baker not originally remembering being told by Sussman that Sussman did not represent a client. Baker admitted not remembering that until questioning by investigators. I suspect there will be an argument made it was a false memory implanted.
Since I am not in the courtroom watching I will leave the credibility up to those who are. If the jury finds Baker credible we will certainly get a guilty verdict.
So, it's OK with you if the FBI tries to stage a coup and overthrow an elected President.
Got it.
I didn't realize Huckabee was in the Trump administraion? Was "Mikey Flynn" working with a Trump firm? Rudy was mayor of NY, not DC.Well that was certainly true during the Trump admin...
Not just Trump and his own devil brood... Mikey Flynn and Jr (both influence peddlers for Turkey), Rudy and his brat (Andrew- special Asst to the President
Should I go on?
Sometimes it's best for you just to not say anything, rather than post stupid shit like this.
Trump was a complete outsider. All these people are working for related firms or actually related to them, as in the judge's case. It's not even comparable to the Trump administration.
The entire investigation was a hoax, predicated on a false document paid for by the Clintons. The conclusion of the Mueller report was that no collusion between Trump and Russians to influence the election was found. Read the report.You keep applying that term "hoax" as if it's a universally accepted concept rather than a Trumpian talking point. Mueller didn't believe it was a hoax, the US Senate didn't label it a hoax and Democrat constituents who comprise at least half of the country don't describe it as a hoax either.
So the only people your posts labelling it a hoax appeal to are fellow travellers. The same people who believe the Big Lie and post nonsense about Clinton killing all of these totally inconsequential people. Do you think if you say it often enough it will catch on outside of wing nut land?
Why the Discredited Dossier Does Not Undercut the Russia Investigation
Donald J. Trump and his backers say revelations about the Steele dossier show the Russia investigation was a “hoax.” That is not what the facts indicate.www.nytimes.com
Only clingers like you and the other Marxists here still give validity to the hoax.
If Baker has given different stories under oath, he should also be prosecuted.
Maybe that's what Durham's after?
The scope of this indictment is narrow, but the effect is to expose the entire sordid collusoin hoax.
The jury that's made up of admitted Trump haters and people whose children are on the same athletic team as Sussman's? With the judge's wife representing Lisa Page?
There is no chance of a guilty verdict. None. But the trial is exposing plenty of what actually went on, which has been hidden for so long.
Marvin I'm trying to post as this guy who is sitting in the courtroom posts. He is the only guy I can find sending regular updates via twitter, but if you go back to the beginning of it YES Baker said Sussman never mentioned anything about working for a client then yesterday he backtracked and said he was 75% sure. So yes it's going to be up to the jury, but man I would not want to be in his shoes right now. Did you see the relationship one of the jurors has with Sussmans daughter? Juror 5...That was an odd moment yesterday.
Yup there are democrat donors on the jury. There has been some other gossip too not sure how much is true.
Well it's a fact the judge's wife was Lisa Page's lawyer.
BTW not sure if any of you knew Tom Fitton and Judicial Watch are at it with Hillary today in another case.
Good God they are everywhere. They should have moved the courtroom to the moon to get credible people.
