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What did Fauci need pardoned for?

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Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.
 
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Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.
On the flip side, if Congress wants to investigate Fauci, Cheney, or others on her select committee, they are stripped of their 5th Amendment immunity.
 
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So the pardon prevents punishment, but does it prevent an actual trial? Could someone investigate, have a trial and when found guilty, he simply walks?
 
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I think Cheney, et al, are safe from any public investigations. If you're DJT why would you want to publicize the Barr "bullshit" testimony again?
I agree. Congress should not kick that dog. But if they do, Cheney will have to testify about how she suborned perjury.
 
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I agree. Congress should not kick that dog. But if they do, Cheney will have to testify about how she suborned perjury.
maybe Congress shouldn’t “kick that dog” because January 6 was an absolute shit show and complete embarrassment to the country and Trump’s involvement 100% should have been investigated.

Questioning Trump’s involvement in that day was completely legitimate and not a political witch hunt.

Conversely, Trump’s DOJ drumming up charges on the people who investigated him sure seems like going after political opponents. What crime might Liz Cheney be guilty of?
 
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maybe Congress shouldn’t “kick that dog” because January 6 was an absolute shit show and complete embarrassment to the country and Trump’s involvement 100% should have been investigated.

Questioning Trump’s involvement in that day was completely legitimate and not a political witch hunt.

Conversely, Trump’s DOJ drumming up charges on the people who investigated him sure seems like going after political opponents. What crime might Liz Cheney be guilty of?
No crime nothing to worry about. No need for a pardon. Biden said as much
 
No crime nothing to worry about. No need for a pardon. Biden said as much
I totally agree there was no crime. I think Biden pardoning her and the January 6 committee was to avoid the possibility of a show trial circus of retribution.

Without the pardon the possibility of that happening was far from zero.
 
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I totally agree there was no crime. I think Biden pardoning her and the January 6 committee was to avoid the possibility of a show trial circus of retribution.

Without the pardon the possibility of that happening was far from zero.
Oh no I have no idea if there was a crime. You misunderstood. There very well could have been crimes. We don’t know

My point is if you did nothing wrong you don’t need a pardon. Biden himself said that
 
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Oh no I have no idea if there was a crime. You misunderstood. There very well could have been crimes. We don’t know

My point is if you did nothing wrong you don’t need a pardon. Biden himself said that
The copium is strong in that one. Keep going though, you might get his head to explode.
 
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maybe Congress shouldn’t “kick that dog” because January 6 was an absolute shit show and complete embarrassment to the country and Trump’s involvement 100% should have been investigated.

Questioning Trump’s involvement in that day was completely legitimate and not a political witch hunt.

Conversely, Trump’s DOJ drumming up charges on the people who investigated him sure seems like going after political opponents. What crime might Liz Cheney be guilty of?
Witness tampering and suborning perjury.

Edit: Alleged
 
Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.
Must have been a reason we don't know about.

Why do innocent people need to be pardoned?
 
Oh no I have no idea if there was a crime. You misunderstood. There very well could have been crimes. We don’t know

My point is if you did nothing wrong you don’t need a pardon. Biden himself said that
My ultimate point is that it doesn’t matter if there was a crime. Trump has stated he wants an FBI probe of Liz Cheney.

I don’t believe the preemptive pardon is to give her cover of any supposed crimes Joe Biden knew about; I think it was to avoid a joke of an investigation/probe that would try to validate Trump’s involvement and whitewash January 6.
 
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My ultimate point is that it doesn’t matter if there was a crime. Trump has stated he wants an FBI probe of Liz Cheney.

I don’t believe the preemptive pardon is to give her cover of any supposed crimes Joe Biden knew about; I think it was to avoid a joke of an investigation/probe that would try to validate Trump’s involvement and whitewash January 6.
A probe is of no moment if there was no crime.

Big Guy pardoning his whole fam now 🤣
 
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There was a time when politicians held each other in respect regardless of party. They didn't attack each other to the extent they do today with threats of investigations and declaring so-in-so should be in jail.

Suspect in the past, they held back while thinking "There but for the grace of God go I". In other words, what gives me the right to judge and accuse others when I am not without flaws.

In today's world of politics calling each other liars, crooks, and felons is so commonplace along with investigations and impeachments that it isn't any wonder We the People have taken partisan politics to an extreme or given up on both parties.

In the midst of all this the Supreme Court has granted presidents immunity. Furthermore, as presidents leave office, they pardon fellow pols and supporters by the droves.

Finally, with all the politically inspired investigations the legislators don't have time to scrutinize spending and find solutions to problems such as immigration and rising health care costs along with shoring up Social Security for the long pull.
 
Who knows. Another fumble by Brick hands Biden. Such promise. Que sera, sera.

Good thing we are moving on to worry about gas and grocery prices first and foremost...
 
Both parties are trash snarl. Dems are just naive
One parties ideas are distinctly better. Also, I agree Dem voters are naive, but the leaders of the party are not. There is a reason they don’t endorse Bitcoin, it limits their power. The main objective is control/power, helping “some” people is a distant second.
 
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One parties ideas are distinctly better. Also, I agree Dem voters are naive, but the leaders of the party are not. There is a reason they don’t endorse Bitcoin, it limits their power. The main objective is control/power, helping “some” people is a distant second.
That’s why I have long said forget morality. Vote for policy. How it impacts those you love and want safe
 
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As did the Biden administration I’m quite certain
Which is why I don’t have a problem with pardoning Liz Cheney and the January 6 Committee. Whether she and the committee have committed any crimes or not, there is little doubt the incoming administration would have liked to target them.
 
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Which is why I don’t have a problem with pardoning Liz Cheney and the January 6 Committee. Whether she and the committee have committed any crimes or not, there is little doubt the incoming administration would have liked to target them.
if she committed a crime why should she be pardoned. would you have liked biden to have pardoned trump if biden had won another election?
 
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It would be interesting to see Fauci investigated. A lot of what the MAGA crowd are up in arms about regarding his direction during COVID happened under the first Trump Administration.
I’d like to hear more about efforts to limit Facebook. Pretty damning stuff about the Biden administration. Stuff declared conspiratorial….
 
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if she committed a crime why should she be pardoned. would you have liked biden to have pardoned trump if biden had won another election?
I don’t know if she committed any crimes or not. I don’t believe it mattered to the incoming administration. I think they wanted her investigated regardless.

But to your point, if there was some dark nefarious plot Liz Cheney was somehow involved in, then she shouldn’t have been pardoned. I don’t believe that’s the case, but that’s for all the internet conspiracy theorists to debate now…
 
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There was a time when politicians held each other in respect regardless of party. They didn't attack each other to the extent they do today with threats of investigations and declaring so-in-so should be in jail.

Suspect in the past, they held back while thinking "There but for the grace of God go I". In other words, what gives me the right to judge and accuse others when I am not without flaws.

In today's world of politics calling each other liars, crooks, and felons is so commonplace along with investigations and impeachments that it isn't any wonder We the People have taken partisan politics to an extreme or given up on both parties.

In the midst of all this the Supreme Court has granted presidents immunity. Furthermore, as presidents leave office, they pardon fellow pols and supporters by the droves.

Finally, with all the politically inspired investigations the legislators don't have time to scrutinize spending and find solutions to problems such as immigration and rising health care costs along with shoring up Social Security for the long pull.
Way past “crooks”

Even moved from “deplorables” to “fascists”

Its an addiction
 
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I’d like to hear more about efforts to limit Facebook. Pretty damning stuff about the Biden administration. Stuff declared conspiratorial….
I don’t doubt what Zuckerberg said to Rogan about people in the Biden administration calling facebook and yelling at them. They shouldn’t have done that.

That said, when Rogan asked him to expand on that or provide proof or tapes of it, he didn’t have much proof that anything actually happened or changed. At that point, Zuckerberg had nothing to lose by saying something along the lines of “the Biden Administration asked us to do X and we felt we had no choice to comply.”

I actually wouldn’t mind Congress pulling on that thread so that Zuckerberg would have to show receipts. And if that did reveal clear evidence that the Biden administration forced Meta’s hand, hold whoever did it accountable.
 
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