What did Fauci need pardoned for?

[BadWakeboarder]

I don’t doubt what Zuckerberg said to Rogan about people in the Biden administration calling facebook and yelling at them. They shouldn’t have done that.

That said, when Rogan asked him to expand on that or provide proof or tapes of it, he didn’t have much proof that anything actually happened or changed. At that point, Zuckerberg had nothing to lose by saying something along the lines of “the Biden Administration asked us to do X and we felt we had no choice to comply.”

I actually wouldn’t mind Congress pulling on that thread so that Zuckerberg would have to show receipts. And if that did reveal clear evidence that the Biden administration forced Meta’s hand, hold whoever did it accountable.

You weren’t paying attention when he let this all out in August well ahead of the election.

It happened. Your beloved St. Joe is a shithead and you refuse to admit it. That’s on you.

Zuckerberg says the White House pressured Facebook to 'censor' some COVID-19 content during the pandemic

Zuckerberg alleges that the officials, including those from the White House, "repeatedly pressured" Facebook for months to take down "certain COVID-19 content including humor and satire."

www.pbs.org

 

[mrhighlife]

Can any lawyers help me out in my dudes chat. We are nothing but marketing and engineering peeps. Aka dumbasses and nerds.

Can the folks who are pardoned still be charged and tried? Just not convicted?

 

[VanPastorMan]

It would be interesting to see Fauci investigated. A lot of what the MAGA crowd are up in arms about regarding his direction during COVID happened under the first Trump Administration.

What year did Fauci start gain of function research?

 

[Ohio Guy]

You weren’t paying attention when he let this all out in August well ahead of the election.

It happened. Your beloved St. Joe is a shithead and you refuse to admit it. That’s on you.

Zuckerberg says the White House pressured Facebook to 'censor' some COVID-19 content during the pandemic

Zuckerberg alleges that the officials, including those from the White House, "repeatedly pressured" Facebook for months to take down "certain COVID-19 content including humor and satire."

www.pbs.org

That article essentially says the same thing he said to Rogan. I don’t doubt someone in the Biden Administration called to yell at them about COVID misinformation. I’ll say it again since you missed in my post you replied to. That shouldn’t have happened.

So far all Zuckerberg has claimed is that some people in Biden’s Administration called to yell at him and his team. He has nothing to lose by naming names and specifically mentioning which COVID stories he actually censored.

Like I said, let’s get a congressional hearing on this so Zuck can show receipts. If actual crimes were committed, we need to nip this type of executive branch overreach in the bud.

 

[Ohio Guy]

What year did Fauci start gain of function research?

Why don’t you pull a Cignetti and google it.

 

[bailey777]

Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.

If he is the hero the left claims he is why does he need a pardon?

 

[bailey777]

Oh no I have no idea if there was a crime. You misunderstood. There very well could have been crimes. We don’t know

My point is if you did nothing wrong you don’t need a pardon. Biden himself said that

Exactly.

 

[stollcpa]

Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.

Why all the way back to 2014? Did Fauci say something about Ivermectin in 2015?

 

[bailey777]

Fauci welcomes Biden pardon but says he has ‘committed no crime’​

The former public health official was expected to be targeted with legal action.

Lol

 

[Ohio Guy]

If he is the hero the left claims he is why does he need a pardon?

My guess is that it’s more of an insurance policy against political retribution, but I’m not privy to all the inner workings of the Biden administration, Trump administration, the DOJ or NIH.


I do know Trump has expressed interest in going after some of the people Biden pardoned. As mentioned here several times, no one really knows what crimes may or may not have been committed.

 

[stollcpa]

Fauci welcomes Biden pardon but says he has ‘committed no crime’​

The former public health official was expected to be targeted with legal action.

Lol

Can he refuse it?

 

[VanPastorMan]

Why don’t you pull a Cignetti and google it.

I was asking you to.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Can he refuse it?

Hypothetically, let’s just say you were in Fauci’s shoes and you were confident you didn’t break any laws.

You know there is a very real possibility of the Trump Administration launching an investigation into your work, likely costing you untold legal expenses, time and effort to try and prove your innocence.

Of course, maybe you’re right and Fauci is guilty of some crime.

Would you refuse a pardon under either scenario?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Hypothetically, let’s just say you were in Fauci’s shoes and you were confident you didn’t break any laws.

You know there is a very real possibility of the Trump Administration launching an investigation into your work, likely costing you untold legal expenses, time and effort.

Would you refuse a pardon?

Let’s hope it is conducted regardless.

 

[IUclover]

That article essentially says the same thing he said to Rogan. I don’t doubt someone in the Biden Administration called to yell at them about COVID misinformation. I’ll say it again since you missed in my post you replied to. That shouldn’t have happened.

So far all Zuckerberg has claimed is that some people in Biden’s Administration called to yell at him and his team. He has nothing to lose by naming names and specifically mentioning which COVID stories he actually censored.

Like I said, let’s get a congressional hearing on this so Zuck can show receipts. If actual crimes were committed, we need to nip this type of executive branch overreach in the bud.

Shut up, sh*tbag! (Joking)..

Zuck talking, donating, and making some other recent moves has nothing to do with other favors that are dependent on such actions.

He just felt like spilling beans… last week coincidentally… on Bro Joe. That’s it.

 

[hoot1]

Way past “crooks”

Even moved from “deplorables” to “fascists”

Its an addiction

Just didn't like it when I "woke" up to realize deplorable fascists have become addicted to labelling me as a socialist or communist .

 

[Digressions]

I don’t doubt what Zuckerberg said to Rogan about people in the Biden administration calling facebook and yelling at them. They shouldn’t have done that.

That said, when Rogan asked him to expand on that or provide proof or tapes of it, he didn’t have much proof that anything actually happened or changed. At that point, Zuckerberg had nothing to lose by saying something along the lines of “the Biden Administration asked us to do X and we felt we had no choice to comply.”

I actually wouldn’t mind Congress pulling on that thread so that Zuckerberg would have to show receipts. And if that did reveal clear evidence that the Biden administration forced Meta’s hand, hold whoever did it accountable.

Yeah, let's see the exact posts they were trying to get pulled.

 

[Ohio Guy]

Shut up, sh*tbag! (Joking)..

Zuck talking, donating, and making some other recent moves has nothing to do with other favors that are dependent on such actions.

He just felt like spilling beans… last week coincidentally… on Bro Joe. That’s it.

Zuckerberg is one of the richest people in the world and as a result arguably one of the most powerful. Yet, he still has no conviction and even a cool breeze would change his direction or stance on anything.

If after 4 years of Trump we would happen to get president Buttigieg and VP AOC, he’d appoint a transgender Meta CEO and create a whole new DEI division and hire 500 people to fill it.

 

[DANC]

This is true, but are you not allowing for even a remote possibility of Trump’s DOJ going after his political opponents? It’s not like he hasn’t suggested as much…

Oh, the irony

 

[IUclover]

That’s why I have long said forget morality. Vote for policy. How it impacts those you love and want safe

What if the price of eggs doesn’t go down? How will you defend yourself and family?

 

[mcmurtry66]

What if the price of eggs doesn’t go down? How will you defend yourself and family?

didn’t know eggs were part of bail projects

 

[Ohio Guy]

Fauci welcomes Biden pardon but says he has ‘committed no crime’​

The former public health official was expected to be targeted with legal action.

Lol

Seems reasonable. Regardless of whether or not he did/didn’t commit a crime why wouldn’t he accept a pardon given the likelihood of what a Trump administration seemed ready to do?

Assuming he’s telling the truth, it still costs a lot of money to prove you’re innocent in a very public fight against the federal government.

 

[IUclover]

didn’t know eggs were part of bail projects

It’s all systemic. Food prices, health, poverty, crime.

 

[DANC]

What if the price of eggs doesn’t go down? How will you defend yourself and family?

What if the price of eggs do go down? Will you and your ilk finally concede Biden's policies caused inflation?

 

[mcmurtry66]

It’s all systemic. Food prices, health, poverty, crime.

No it’s not. It’s inane woke policy. No different than opening the border. Fortunately woke boarded a helicopter and can spiral elsewhere

 

[IUclover]

What if the price of eggs do go down? Will you and your ilk finally concede Biden's policies caused inflation?

Hit me up when the egg prices go down.

 

[twenty02]

Hit me up when the egg prices go down.

Not sure what anyone is going to do about 40m hens being culled this year due to avian flu.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.

Trump just had Milley’s portrait removed from the Pentagon lol

 

[Pryght]

Never been convicted or even tried of anything. Why did he need pardoned? Same with Milley? Biden turned that entire process into a joke.

Probably to avoid Trump's Volksgerichtshof.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

He lied under oath about gain of function.

Yes, he did. And that's why I don't think Fauci should've been included in the list of pardons. I'm fine with the J6 committee getting them.

But Fauci is a different story. Interestingly, his pardon covers back to 2014 as well. Is there significance to that date in his case? I know that the Obama Admin ordered a pause on funding GoF research. Was the NIH funding these despite the order?

Also, it's very worth mentioning that EcoHealth Alliance was debarred last May from getting any further federal funding. This was done by the Biden Department of HHS.

Link: US government suspends funding for virus research group at center of Covid-19 origin controversy

The stated reasoning was:

Failure to adequately monitor the virus growth? Failure to notify the NIH that the viruses had grown beyond permissible thresholds? Um, excuse me?

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

I don’t doubt what Zuckerberg said to Rogan about people in the Biden administration calling facebook and yelling at them. They shouldn’t have done that.

That said, when Rogan asked him to expand on that or provide proof or tapes of it, he didn’t have much proof that anything actually happened or changed. At that point, Zuckerberg had nothing to lose by saying something along the lines of “the Biden Administration asked us to do X and we felt we had no choice to comply.”

I actually wouldn’t mind Congress pulling on that thread so that Zuckerberg would have to show receipts. And if that did reveal clear evidence that the Biden administration forced Meta’s hand, hold whoever did it accountable.

While I don't disagree, nobody should be too skeptical about his claim. Meta/Facebook may not have shown receipts of this, but the "Twitter files" showed instances of it.

Still, I fully agree with Trump's EO declaring that this kind of censorious pressure is off limits. Hopefully it will be honored and enforced.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

It would be interesting to see Fauci investigated. A lot of what the MAGA crowd are up in arms about regarding his direction during COVID happened under the first Trump Administration.

Most of the gripes about Fauci have less to do with his pandemic response than with his false testimony about the NIH funding Gain of Function research via EcoHealth Alliance. And he was involved in email threads that contained discussion about not giving fuel to the Lab Leak Hypothesis.

I honestly don't know if he was aware of the NIH grants for GoF research at WIV at the time of his testimony. But, if he was, then he committed perjury. If so, that's pretty bad on its own -- but I think we ought to have an explanation as to why he did.

 

[DANC]

Hit me up when the egg prices go down.

You are the one following them - I'm sure you will know.

 

[DANC]

Trump just had Milley’s portrait removed from the Pentagon lol

Fvcking traitor. Imagine a JCOS under a Democrat President telling the Chinese he'd keep the President under control and let them know if there's anything to worry about.

The brazenness of such an action is shocking and yet, no one seems to be bothered by it at all.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

if she committed a crime why should she be pardoned. would you have liked biden to have pardoned trump if biden had won another election?

I hear what you're saying.

However...consider the J6 committee from a purely political point of view. Set aside its legal merits (and it did have legal merits). As a political exercise, it was at best ineffectual. If the intent was to hobble a future Donald Trump candidacy or otherwise pressure him to not run again, it obviously didn't work.

So I don't think Trump should be that angry about it. He might even have cause to be grateful.

For better or worse, J6 just wasn't much of a political liability for him. Whatever votes it cost him were lost on that day or soon thereafter. His critics ended up overplaying their hand -- on the understandable assumption that most of the 66% of American people who aren't in the MAGA cult would be as incensed about it as they were.

 

[DANC]

I hear what you're saying.

However...consider the J6 committee from a purely political point of view. Set aside its legal merits (and it did have legal merits). As a political exercise, it was at best ineffectual. If the intent was to hobble a future Donald Trump candidacy or otherwise pressure him to not run again, it obviously didn't work.

So I don't think Trump should be that angry about it. He might even have cause to be grateful.

For better or worse, J6 just wasn't much of a political liability for him. Whatever votes it cost him were lost on that day or soon thereafter. His critics ended up overplaying their hand -- on the understandable assumption that most of the 66% of American people who aren't in the MAGA cult would be as incensed about it as they were.

Oh no, he shouldn't be upset about the J6 farce. No, he should be grateful for it!

Geezus.

 

[Univee2]

Oh no, he shouldn't be upset about the J6 farce. No, he should be grateful for it!

Geezus.

Lemons. Lemonade.

 

[DANC]

Lemons. Lemonade.

Right. No reason to get upset over a stacked Congressional committee investigating you for treason.

 

[IUclover]

You are the one following them - I'm sure you will know.

lol goal posts

 

[DANC]

lol goal posts

Nonsensical