Weight Program

[MMcCormick]

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Spring rosters have been posted. What is up with our weight program? Some of the weights on the receivers and defensive backs is scary. Noah Pierre 178 lbs. Could that be right? Colby 174 lbs? McCauley 6'5 198? Monds 176 lbs. Phillip Dunham 184 lbs as a safety?

There have been a lot of questions about our weight program and it's hard for me to believe that so many veterans who are in that light is a good thing. Carpenter is down to 292. He used to be 330. He was fat then, but 292 is light for a college lineman.

 

[MMcCormick]

Jaylin Lucas and Trevell Mullen are listed in the 160's.

 

[vesuvius13]

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Spring rosters have been posted. What is up with our weight program? Some of the weights on the receivers and defensive backs is scary. Noah Pierre 178 lbs. Could that be right? Colby 174 lbs? McCauley 6'5 198? Monds 176 lbs. Phillip Dunham 184 lbs as a safety?

There have been a lot of questions about our weight program and it's hard for me to believe that so many veterans who are in that light is a good thing. Carpenter is down to 292. He used to be 330. He was fat then, but 292 is light for a college lineman.

It is due to coach Bell wanting players to be able to run fast offense so he told the S&C staff to reduce the players weights. There are a number of questions I have about coach Bell and this is one.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

The scales they use are broken

 

[Hoosier Clarion]

It is due to coach Bell wanting players to be able to run fast offense so he told the S&C staff to reduce the players weights. There are a number of questions I have about coach Bell and this is one.

But Mark that doesn't shed light on the D roster weights. Bell would have no say so with them.

 

[vesuvius13]

But Mark that doesn't shed light on the D roster weights. Bell would have no say so with them.

You would think so but defense has to play fast too as the offense doesn't give them much rest so extra weight is a problem for the D.

 

[TMFT]

I have no clue about how this stuff works.

But is it possible they want to be down weight in the spring to take it easy on their bodies and try to get in shape and move into a bulk phase through the summer?

 

[MMcCormick]

No idea. I just know that for Big Ten players these are really light weights. On average ten or 15 pounds lighter than most players at those positions

 

[TMFT]

And whoa. I just went through the roster and Cooper Jones moved to OL?

That surprises me.

 

[Crossblock]

Weight isn't everything when it comes to quickness. There are guys in other Strength and Conditioning Programs Who have put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle weight while maintaining or increasing quickness and improving dash times.

 

[76-1]

And whoa. I just went through the roster and Cooper Jones moved to OL?

That surprises me.

Most other programs were originally recruiting him as an OT... It's a good move. We have little real depth at OT and he was buried on the depth chart at DL... Hopefully this will be a positive move for all involved...

 

[Jackskip23]

You would think so but defense has to play fast too as the offense doesn't give them much rest so extra weight is a problem for the D.

The weight losses were something Coach Allen wanted.

 

[TomEric4756]

Well height and weight have been gamed on rosters for ever … maybe our pendulum swung the other way.

Last couple years we reported lots of big OL who couldn’t block a lick.

Last year getting the OL in shape for a fast offense marathon was a point of emphasis… maybe we actually acheived more this year.

 

[TomEric4756]

It was good to see Bedford on the roster as R-Sr.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Weight isn't everything when it comes to quickness. There are guys in other Strength and Conditioning Programs Who have put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle weight while maintaining or increasing quickness and improving dash times.

those would be exceptions to the rule.

generally, less weight adds to speed and quickness.

and stamina.

the key is to maintain strength at less weight.

 

[Bligedy]

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Spring rosters have been posted. What is up with our weight program? Some of the weights on the receivers and defensive backs is scary. Noah Pierre 178 lbs. Could that be right? Colby 174 lbs? McCauley 6'5 198? Monds 176 lbs. Phillip Dunham 184 lbs as a safety?

There have been a lot of questions about our weight program and it's hard for me to believe that so many veterans who are in that light is a good thing. Carpenter is down to 292. He used to be 330. He was fat then, but 292 is light for a college lineman.

The Colts’ safeties were 183, 187 and 196 and they weren’t 19.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

I want size, strength, speed, quickness, and savvy.
IF I have to do without just 1, I drop Speed. Then size. Then I don’t play them.

 

[TomEric4756]

I want size, strength, speed, quickness, and savvy.
IF I have to do without just 1, I drop Speed. Then size. Then I don’t play them.

Yes, a quick first step to get in position is key to beating opponents

 

[wibler]

The weight losses were something Coach Allen wanted.

That makes sense.

My goodness, Bell apparently is the core cause of all failings with IU football.

 

[PackerPete]

Give me speed any day of the week.....I can "rotate in" lighter guys to wear out the heavier guys...but that's just me

 

[MMcCormick]

We used to hear stats bragging about our speed and weight program all of the time with our previous team. I am wondering what the actually numbers look like now comparatively.

 

[Baller23Boogie]

And whoa. I just went through the roster and Cooper Jones moved to OL?

That surprises me.

Allen announced this in his presser a couple says ago along with Robbins and Murphy being done with football.

 

[Baller23Boogie]

We used to hear stats bragging about our speed and weight program all of the time with our previous team. I am wondering what the actually numbers look like now comparatively.

If you go to the official iu football page and click a players page and then click the historical tab under their picture, it'll tell you the weight that indiana posted for every year the player was in our program.

Speed isn't anything we can look up.

 

[TMFT]

Allen announced this in his presser a couple says ago along with Robbins and Murphy being done with football.

I'm sorry to hear that with Beau. I was glad to see him have a productive role last season.

Also sad for Caleb Murphy. His first start was such a feel good story. It was painful to watch him the next game get pushed around so badly against Cinci.

 

[HillyardGates]

I'm sorry to hear that with Beau. I was glad to see him have a productive role last season.

Also sad for Caleb Murphy. His first start was such a feel good story. It was painful to watch him the next game get pushed around so badly against Cinci.

Weird juxtaposition. One guy from Indiana’s largest school and the other from one of it’s smallest. Guess you never really know who’s gonna flourish once on campus.

 

[IU73]

Murphy will graduate in 3 years so he decided to move on. Wish him the very best.

 

[Jssanto]

It is due to coach Bell wanting players to be able to run fast offense so he told the S&C staff to reduce the players weights. There are a number of questions I have about coach Bell and this is one.

It would be nice to have guys both big and fast.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Seems like I have heard in the past about trimming players down so they can build them up with proper muscle weight (paraphrasing as don't recall exact verbiage).

Maybe this is just the halfway point in the process and weights will be higher in the fall

 

[PackerPete]

Remember, when you get into the season players "normally" gain weight due to the S/C at that time is just to maintain and not "restructure"....so say Lucas is at 180 in August...."normal adding" would put him around 185 to 190 by November due to the reduced "intensity" of the S/C process

 

[Jackskip23]

Remember, when you get into the season players "normally" gain weight due to the S/C at that time is just to maintain and not "restructure"....so say Lucas is at 180 in August...."normal adding" would put him around 185 to 190 by November due to the reduced "intensity" of the S/C process

Players normally drop weight during the season, not gain it. It’s one of the reasons our nutrition people push good dietary choices so hard, as they don’t want players compensating for weight drops by eating the wrong foods to maintain their target weight.

 

[PackerPete]

I guess we have experienced differences in this area....

 

[Jackskip23]

That makes sense.

My goodness, Bell apparently is the core cause of all failings with IU football.

He’s certainly the punching bag du jour for some, that’s for sure.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

He’s certainly the punching bag du jour for some, that’s for sure.

Probably a combination of trying to be optimistic that the problem isn't Allen (since changing a head coach would mean we have a few years of misery ahead of us) and that bell didn't exactly have a stellar resume prior to IU (and didn't change that outlook last season).

 

[Jssanto]

We probably never know exactly why an asst coach is hired. But it does seem somehow reassuring if they came from success.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

It would be nice to have guys both big and fast.

Most of those go to Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. The rest of us eat last.

 

[DANC]

We used to hear stats bragging about our speed and weight program all of the time with our previous team. I am wondering what the actually numbers look like now comparatively.

Wellman doesn't seem to be the self-promoter Ballou is.

 

[secondasky]

test

 

[Cap99]

Wellman doesn't seem to be the self-promoter Ballou is.

The only thing Wellman would have to promote is degradation in performance and injuries.

 

[HoosierAlum07]

Is the Nebraska Pyramid still a thing in weightlifting? We used it in high school and half of our team benched over 300lbs!

 

[76-1]

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Spring rosters have been posted. What is up with our weight program? Some of the weights on the receivers and defensive backs is scary. Noah Pierre 178 lbs. Could that be right? Colby 174 lbs? McCauley 6'5 198? Monds 176 lbs. Phillip Dunham 184 lbs as a safety?

There have been a lot of questions about our weight program and it's hard for me to believe that so many veterans who are in that light is a good thing. Carpenter is down to 292. He used to be 330. He was fat then, but 292 is light fora college lineman.

Much ado about nothing in my eyes...

Speed wins in the secondary and if his weight loss allows Carpenter to do whatever it takes to allow him to operate in the Offense Bell wants to run; which clearly isn't going to rely on a lot of Iso, straight the gut runs with him leading..., then I'm all for it.

It appears he'll be getting a lot of help against the stronger Nose Guards (which he would have Anyway) and will be expected to be able to pull to initiate his combo-blocks...; is what I read into it..., or..., who knows..., he might might have just had the flu the week before weigh-in...

I don't see anything on there that terribly concerns me... Might all be a very Good thing (the weight changes)...

I'll trust Coach Allen on this one...

I'm much more concerned about getting our Basic blocking and, in particular, Tackling back to where it should be...