We have a verdict -- Guilty on ALL counts

[hoosboot]

Is that Gary Busey?

True story - my sister was visiting her newborn nephew and we we all went out to lunch by the beach in Malibu. I went up to ask our waiter for something and, while I was gone, a crazed and cockeyed Gary Busey came up to the table and told my sister she looked fantastic after having so recently given birth (it wasn't her baby, so she was hella confused). He had left by the time I got back and they all looked shellshocked. I asked what was wrong and the only thing my sister could come up with was, "Nick Nolte has gone off the deep end."

Poor guy was just trying to be nice, but it came across kinda how I imagine DANC does talking to women. 😬

 

[dbmhoosier]

Somewhere in Texas.

Bring elder abuse charges against Jill in some very red district. She's been out there campaigning with him in FL, TX, GA, etc. She's clearly guilty. The man cannot even function and shes constantly putting him out there like that all to her benefit.

 

[IUCrazy2]

That’s manslaughter not murder.

I think it rises to the point of murder when your drunk ass walks home and leaves the person there to die AND fails to notify anyone for at least 9 hours. It is funny that you want to get into minutiae about a woman being intentionally killed in a thread celebrating "justice" over the nonsense Trump just got convicted for.

 

[dbmhoosier]

🎯

"The only way to save the Republic is to give them a taste of their own medicine"

 

[mrhighlife]

View embedded media

You’re not banging someone hotter at 50. Neither is @outside shooter.

Not hot. Thats not hot dude. No. If I wanted to bang dudes, I'd just bang dudes(not that's theirs anything wrong with that). Plus it's clearly photoshopped. Which so sad on many levels.

You need to show pics of Trump's lawyer Alina in penance. STAT!

 

[Ohio Guy]

Tucker is 100% correct here. The real worry is not the verdict. The worry is what happens when Trump is still leading in the polls 2-3 months from now? What's their next move?

View embedded media

Ive seen that allusion by right wingers to Trump being killed before. Not sure what to make of that, other than there is a subset of people who weirdly fetishize revolution in this country.

And talk about dangerous. Saying your fellow Americans are a danger to you/your family for not buying into conspiracy theories about the US legal system is cuckoo for coco pops dangerous.

 

[Ohio Guy]

🎯

"The only way to save the Republic is to give them a taste of their own medicine"

View embedded media

I don’t agree with most of what I hear Megyn Kelly say, but damn - she’s super hot.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Much better than Biden being President again.

Biden has been a horrible Pres and will be again, but Trump is simply out of the question. Not an option

 

[Courtsensetwo]

What do you want to bet he'll be sentenced to home detention during the Republican National Convention?

That would be hilarious.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

"No one" would have these charges brought against them in the first place. But it happened. You underestimate these contemptibles at your own risk.

Dumb

 

[dbmhoosier]

Charge them!!!

 

[frikkenfrakken]

When the time comes, you'd think that there has to be some kind of restriction of freedom. He won't end up behind bars, but surely his movements will be "inconvenienced" to some extent, don't you think?

Most likely, yes. Probation or something like that. But Felony probation can transfer between states, so if he lives in Florida, his probation officer and his restrictions could be down there.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

That’s manslaughter not murder.

It's murder when he left the car and didn't appear until a day later.

I think it rises to the point of murder when your drunk ass walks home and leaves the person there to die AND fails to notify anyone for at least 9 hours. It is funny that you want to get into minutiae about a woman being intentionally killed in a thread celebrating "justice" over the nonsense Trump just got convicted for.

Man you guys are funny. Does any one of you actually know what the definition of murder is?

 

[YOTHN]

i love how you write that without realizing just how stupid you sound. "Grounds for an appeal?There are no factual ones." you don't have the transcripts. you have absolutely no idea. you disappeared and tried to google something real fast and this is what you came up wiht - presumably while ignoring the juco homework you should be devoting yourself to.

you'll grow up and understand better, or you won't.... my guess is that it'll be the latter.

But thanks for letting me stub you out

What? lol There most definitely are public transcripts available of this case. Are you telling me you are over here talking nonsense, and not only haven't you read the transcripts but you're proclaiming they don't even exist? Oh old man, years of Viagra are getting to you.

 

[mcmurtry66]

What? lol There most definitely are public transcripts available of this case. Are you telling me you are over here talking nonsense, and not only haven't you read the transcripts but you're proclaiming they don't even exist? Oh old man, years of Viagra are getting to you.

I don’t know why you think I’m old dummy. I know when someone is full of shit and cut and pasted an answer bc they’re shooting blanks.
Your comment makes zero sense - again

 

[dbmhoosier]

 

[mcmurtry66]

Most likely, yes. Probation or something like that. But Felony probation can transfer between states, so if he lives in Florida, his probation officer and his restrictions could be down there.

Probation & Parole 325 Fern Street West Palm Beach Fl

Absolutely insane to think of the former president of the United States going to that shit hole with the crowd there. Looks like a methadone clinic

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

View embedded media

You are pathetically desperate.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Based. And there are millions more. They still don't know what they've done.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Man you guys are funny. Does any one of you actually know what the definition of murder is?

If you kill anyone while under the influence it becomes murder. Not everyone gets convicted(usually gets plead down). I worked with a guy that’s now in prison for similar circumstances convicted of Murder. He was drunk on a side by side involved in an accident with another side by side. The woman was a passenger in the other. So depending on state and court. Ted should’ve went to prison.

 

[YOTHN]

I don’t know why you think I’m old dummy. I know when someone is full of shit and cut and pasted an answer bc they’re shooting blanks.
Your comment makes zero sense - again

What part makes no sense to you? Let's break it down so we can find out together. Was it the part where you said I don't have the transcripts yet they're publicly available?

I also know you're an old man because again, we have spoken about law before. We are recycling a conversation we've already had. Your early onset dementia is no longer early....

 

[YOTHN]

Probation & Parole 325 Fern Street West Palm Beach Fl

Absolutely insane to think of the former president of the United States going to that shit hole with the crowd there. Looks like a methadone clinic

Exactly. Yet it feels like the place he belongs, so we have no one to blame but those defending him.

 

[mcmurtry66]

What part makes no sense to you? Let's break it down so we can find out together. Was it the part where you said I don't have the transcripts yet they're publicly available?

I also know you're an old man because again, we have spoken about law before. We are recycling a conversation we've already had. Your early onset dementia is no longer early....

You cut and pasted. You don’t know anything about law. Stop pretending

 

[YOTHN]

View embedded media

HA! Yes, if Donny can get convicted of paying off a prostitute and hiding it, then ANYONE can. Do you find that relatable?

 

[YOTHN]

You cut and pasted. You don’t know anything about law. Stop pretending

I am just schooling you. Are you unable to explain why you thought there was no transcripts available? You pretend to have been in law at one point and sit here spouting things that are blatantly false. You've been out of the game old man......

 

[mcmurtry66]

I am just schooling you. Are you unable to explain why you thought there was no transcripts available? You pretend to have been in law at one point and sit here spouting things that are blatantly false. You've been out of the game old man......

Lol I know how it works. I’ve actually tried cases. You on the other hand are just cut and pasting. You’ve shown up here before and got your ass handed to you. Like now. Bc you’re pretending.

You’re the one talking about bonanza old timer.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Exactly. Yet it feels like the place he belongs, so we have no one to blame but those defending him.

Exactly lol you don’t know how that shit works. Stop pretending. You look stupid. Capitol old man

 

[YOTHN]

Lol I know how it works. I’ve actually tried cases. You on the other hand are just cut and pasting. You’ve shown up here before and got your ass handed to you. Like now. Bc you’re pretending.

You’re the one talking about bonanza old timer.

"I tried cases".....yeah back before you recorded Matlock on your VCR. You can't pretend to have any idea what you're talking about if you proclaim there are no transcripts available. You outed yourself.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Is it possible that this verdict will have a Dobbs like effect on the Republican voting base and all decent Americans who don’t like to see political opposition jailed?

 

[YOTHN]

Exactly lol you don’t know how that shit works. Stop pretending. You look stupid. Capitol old man

I am just running circles around you. I enjoy this. Have you read the transcripts yet or do you still think they're not available?

 

[IUCrazy2]

Man you guys are funny. Does any one of you actually know what the definition of murder is?

From a legal standpoint I honestly don't give a ****. I am not a lawyer and frankly I think our current legal system is a giant flaming piece of shit left on someone's doorstep. I look at it from just an ethical POV. He killed that girl, intentionally in my mind based on his actions of leaving someone to drown in a sinking car. He didn't try to get her any help because he was afraid of consequences for him. To me that is murder and I could care less what category it falls in from a legal standpoint. Negligent homicide? Who cares? He killed her. Period.

(The dictionary definition of murder is to kill someone with premeditation. When he walked away from that car and didn't inform anyone for at least 9 hours, that is arguably premeditation in my book. YMMV but what is inarguable is that Kopechne was dead solely because of that drunken asshole whose political and familial connections kept him from facing any consequences whatsoever.)

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Is it possible that this verdict will have a Dobbs like effect on the Republican voting base and all decent Americans who don’t like to see political opposition jailed?

It’s possible but I doubt it. I think this was the final nail in Trumps coffin.

 

[swman]

Grounds for an appeal? There are no factual ones but your Orange God will try and state there were legal errors made during the trial, create some constitutional issues, or claims of procedural irregularities within the case itself.

The process for an appeal would typically involve filing a notice of appeal with the court, followed by the preparation of appellate briefs outlining the arguments for appeal.

Trump's legal team would likely focus on trying to fabricate a fictional case based on the grounds for appeal, and they would present their arguments before the appellate court. If successful, the appellate court may overturn the original decision, order a new trial, or modify the original judgment.

As for my opinion, he's guilty of 34 felonies. I don't think there's any way he does jail for this but I do think he was tried fairly and justly. He does deserve a stiff punishment.

First of all he’s got total immunity remember. Second he’s going to get a stiffy um I mean stiff punishment in jail.

 

[swman]

It’s possible but I doubt it. I think this was the final nail in Trumps coffin.

No, unfortunately he will rise from the grave as he’s done so often before.

 

[UncleMark]

Is it possible that this verdict will have a Dobbs like effect on the Republican voting base and all decent Americans who don’t like to see political opposition jailed?

Dobbs is unpopular with Republicans and Democrats alike.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Bring elder abuse charges against Jill in some very red district. She's been out there campaigning with him in FL, TX, GA, etc. She's clearly guilty. The man cannot even function and shes constantly putting him out there like that all to her benefit.

Besides the stupidity of that comment, how exactly does it benefit Jill?

 

[snarlcakes]

Spot on. Also, he could have been President, but instead voters chose Biden and Trump. Americans are idiots.

 

[zeke4ahs]

I think it rises to the point of murder when your drunk ass walks home and leaves the person there to die AND fails to notify anyone for at least 9 hours. It is funny that you want to get into minutiae about a woman being intentionally killed in a thread celebrating "justice" over the nonsense Trump just got convicted for.

I’m not really interested in the something that happened 50 years ago to someone who is dead now. It was silly ofvwhomever brought it up. What happened was terrible and Kennedy was terribly wrong. It doesn’t make Trump any less vile.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Man you guys are funny. Does any one of you actually know what the definition of murder is?

That’s why I was waiting for a lawyer to weigh in. I thought murder had to have intent , whereas manslaughter does not.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

View embedded media

Spot on. Also, he could have been President, but instead voters chose Biden and Trump. Americans are idiots.

Yes. As Republicans we can only blame ourselves. Ron was there for the taking.