Wasn't close to being fired from Oklahoma, he resigned from Oklahoma to take the IU job lol. Read Joe Castilgione's comments in almost any article regarding Sampson.
We fired Sampson
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Impermissible phone calls were a secondary violation that carried the same penalty that Purdue/Frank Kendrick was hit with. Sampson compounded his issues by lying to NCAA investigators which is what really did him in....same goes for Jim Tressel, Bruce Pearl, etc
And it was his second offense on both the calls and lying to the NCAA investigators about it. Its grapes to watermelons to compare it to Kendrick giving Clay a ride back to the dorm.
Most people learn at an early age when as a kid if you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar once, you don’t do it twice. I’m sure that’s what IU thought when they hired Sampson. Unfortunately for IU, Sampson, as a slow learner, wasn’t like most people. An extra cell phone call seemed as insignificant as his mom’s freshly baked snickerdoodle cookies when not fully sated.
Wasn't there also an arrangement for a car loan for a recruit, player, or parent?
If Sampson doesn't lie to NCAA investigators, he's not hit with a show-cause and is still more than likely retained by IU. It's as simple as that. You can spin it any way you want, but impermissible phone calls were always a secondary violation.
Also, you're mixing up your players. Luther Clay wasn't the player involved in the improper ride benefit, that was a recruit who never ended up on campus whom Kendrick instructed to lie to the NCAA. Luther Clay was given a loan by a local bank that Kendrick co-signed for and never paid back. Clay transferred to Rhode Island and the loan was charged off.
One of Purdue's fired women's assistants sent a letter with a laundry list of accusations. 18 of the 20, including illegal payments to clay were proven baseless, other than the 4 mile car ride, the only other thing the NCAA giggled Purdue for was a "Purdue booster" giving illegal benefits to one of Purdue's players mother. This so called Purdue booster was an MSU aluminum and in consideration for the MSU AD position and was dating the mother in question. But there were IU grads on the NCAA investigation team, and their hands were heavy on the scales
The loan was from BankOne, in Columbus Ohio. Kendrick was not a co-signer, and it was Clay in the car. Kendrick lied on his own, not under any orders and was fired for it
Jamal Davis received the improper ride, not Luther Clay, and was instructed to lie about it because Kendrick/Purdue knew it was a violation.
"Kendrick’s credibility was damaged when the committee determined he had asked a recruit, Jamal Davis, to lie about an improper ride he had received on a campus visit."
PURDUE’S RECRUITING VIOLATIONS PROVE COSTLY
The bombs keep exploding in the Big Ten. One week after Clem Haskins was forced out in the University of Minnesota’s widening academic fraud scandal, the NCAA found Purdue’s men’s…
www.chicagotribune.com
"Clay transferred after his freshman season but later told the NCAA he received an improper $4,000 bank loan from a Lafayette bank under the understanding he wouldn't have to pay it back."
NCAA sanctions and no stars: Top 10 Purdue basketball outgoing transfers of past 30 years
Among those who left — which includes one who left significant NCAA baggage — none really went on to become a star.
www.indystar.com
Thank you, I was sure both were Clay. I mis-remembered that part. The 10k loan was a student loan that many players got at all schools at the time as they weren't allowed to work or receive money.Jamal Davis received the improper ride, not Luther Clay, and was instructed to lie about it because Kendrick/Purdue knew it was a violation.
"Kendrick’s credibility was damaged when the committee determined he had asked a recruit, Jamal Davis, to lie about an improper ride he had received on a campus visit."
PURDUE’S RECRUITING VIOLATIONS PROVE COSTLY
The bombs keep exploding in the Big Ten. One week after Clem Haskins was forced out in the University of Minnesota’s widening academic fraud scandal, the NCAA found Purdue’s men’s…www.chicagotribune.com
It wasn't a 10k student loan, it was a $4k personal loan that was facilitated by Frank Kendrick
Your response indicates you are the one "uninformed" about the Three Cheat
we knew from your former trolling that you are a moron.
A "loan" that all knew was never going to be paid back. Didn't Bank One date back to the old Purdue National Bank in Laffy?
Then there was Porter Roberts' Mom of course
Frank Kendrick (RIP) was a good young coach that took the bullet for Keady and was then discarded.
But but but it was an MSU grad....in 3...2...1
Keady was the fire and brimstone, Frank was the cheating recruiter and Weber was the brains behind the Xs and Os.
In your case the only facts that matter is that he wins. How he wins does not matter. Thanks for making that clear.
TDS, foul mouth, anger issues. Checking off all the boxes. Its a basketball forum
I believe you’re referring to Charles Macon, a Purdue recruit who ended up at Ohio State for two seasons before transferring to finish at Central Michigan.
No. Jamaal Davis is the recruit who was instructed to lie to the NCAA about receiving an improper ride and Luther Clay is the one that faulted on a loan that was initiated by Kendrick and a Purdue booster. I linked both in a previous post.
You got me there. Mr Basketball for 1992/McD’s burger boy, Charles Macon chose Ohio State, coached by Randy Ayres, over Purdue, UCLA and Arizona. Being from Michigan City, at one time it was thought he was a Purdue lean. He did end up getting in trouble during his two year stay in Columbus. He drove away from a gas pump without paying and got busted for marijuana and a DUI. He averaged less than 5 pts/gm for Ohio State and 16-18/gm while at Central MI. He went un-drafted in the 1997 NBA cattle call.
Frank lied to the NCAA, it said so in the NCAA report, it also said if he just told the truth he would of just got a slap on the wrist, the NCAA restricted Frank, not Purdue, and stopped him from coaching! Purdue and Clay disputed the loan repayment, the NCAA took Clays story. The reason the 3 peat still counts is because Clay basically rode the bench when he was at Purdue. The Big Ten said they would did not agree, and still count Purdue's season record and the 3-peat. The Fort Wayne Urinial Gazette behind Ben Smith was the driving force behind the investigation. Gene was having to much success when he landed Big Dog, some in the Media did not like it.
If you remember, people were happy to have a good coach. He wasn't hired because of his minority status or that we had just fired our first black head coach. FWIW, I'm betting most back then thought Sampson was black and not Native American,
You mean like Sampson has his Houston team getting ready to implode? How many college basketball players have flunked out of their school in the last quarter century? How many of Sampson’s players at any school have failed drug tests? Do top players even attend class?
Even Samson admits he became a much better coach after leaving IU. If they don't attend classes, they are at a minor league team and not an NCAA school. See UK, UTenn, and UNC among others as lowlife cheaters
I come from this time you speak of, this “back then”. No one thought he was Black. IU fans didn’t make a big deal about the Indian part either. Coming from Oklahoma, it made sense once we finally heard he had some “Pocohontas” blood coursing through his veins. We just considered him “one of us”, now go win some games. I think only Adam Herbert cared about his supposed “minority” status.
DEI term or not, Adam Herbert told me why he went with Sampson at Midnight Madness 2006. Pretty much the same lines. Stop name calling. Makes you look weak.
Sampson was a perfectly qualified candidate, as evidenced by his hall of fame level career (and cheating)
There were drugs under crean also. And as far as academics do they even go to class anymore or just take online tests? Nobody is ever ineligible anymore ever.
He called you MAGA boy for a second I thought this was the water cooler. Of course over there you would get attacked by about 80% of the people for being MAGA.
He came within 10 seconds of doing just that. UVA hit a 3 late to tie, it. Eventually would.win it in OT.
Then there is moving parents of a recruit and getting Mom a job. Pretty sleazy stuff back then
