Ware

[Middawg]

Instead of continuing to take shits like you're visiting an overflowing port-o-john at a festival concert, let's talk some Ware and other positives.


I think Ware has operated quite well at the elbow, high post, and top of the key.

No glaring turnover issues, he's handling the ball well. Not an elite passer and creater just yet, but opens possibilities in a high low game and running actions with the guards and wings.

Pick and pop is there, but hasn't materialized at a high level yet either, I have no issue with him launching 3s.

He can get a better going into the chest of a defender and mix those up with his fade away game.

Those elbow and high post jumpers should be there all day.


First game saw no olley oops for Ware dunk shots and we saw several against Army.

I expect that aspect of IUs arsenal to continue to improve as the other players get comfortable throwing it up to within a few feet of the rim.

Surely, these actions that can get Ware olley oops dunk shots can be used with other wings and bigs on the team as well?

 

[kurt cloverdales]

was the Olley oop 1st introduced by Ollie from Hoosiers?

 

[kmathum]

Instead of continuing to take shits like you're visiting an overflowing port-o-john at a festival concert, let's talk some Ware and other positives.


I think Ware has operated quite well at the elbow, high post, and top of the key.

No glaring turnover issues, he's handling the ball well. Not an elite passer and creater just yet, but opens possibilities in a high low game and running actions with the guards and wings.

Pick and pop is there, but hasn't materialized at a high level yet either, I have no issue with him launching 3s.

He can get a better going into the chest of a defender and mix those up with his fade away game.

Those elbow and high post jumpers should be there all day.


First game saw no olley oops for Ware dunk shots and we saw several against Army.

I expect that aspect of IUs arsenal to continue to improve as the other players get comfortable throwing it up to within a few feet of the rim.

Surely, these actions that can get Ware olley oops dunk shots can be used with other wings and bigs on the team as well?

A guy like that should have a hook shot.

 

[The Watson]

was the Olley oop 1st introduced by Ollie from Hoosiers?

Or - perhaps of Kukla, Fran & Ollie fame, or Stan Laurel & Oliver "Ollie" Hardy ??

 

[kmathum]

was the Olley oop 1st introduced by Ollie from Hoosiers?

That Ollie threw his oop passes under handed

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Or - perhaps of Kukla, Fran & Ollie fame, or Stan Laurel & Oliver "Ollie" Hardy ??

possibilities are endless.

 

[Chicago-bound Hoosier]

A guy like that should have a hook shot

what is this, 1982? Hook shot? Followed by the two-handed stuff shot?

Actually, I agree....but something you rarely see these days. Kids more interested in chucking 22 footers. I bet most kids today have never even heard of George Mikan or Lew Alcindor's sky hook.
Haston was the last IU player (that I remember, anyways) who looked like he actually practiced a real hook shot. And it made him a better player.

 

[Eyedoc991]

I expect that aspect of IUs arsenal to continue to improve as the other players get comfortable throwing it up to within a few feet of the rim.

Hasn't that been our problem for 7+ years...not being able to throw it within a few feet of the rim?

 

[kmathum]

what is this, 1982? Hook shot? Followed by the two-handed stuff shot?

Actually, I agree....but something you rarely see these days. Kids more interested in chucking 22 footers. I bet most kids today have never even heard of George Mikan or Lew Alcindor's sky hook.
Haston was the last IU player (that I remember, anyways) who looked like he actually practiced a real hook shot. And it made him a better player.

As I recall, Benson had a pretty good hook shot, or maybe a half hook.

 

[bawlmer]

Ware's jump shot is too good to bother with a hook shot.

 

[kmathum]

Ware's jump shot is too good to bother with a hook shot.

The hook is much more difficult to block. Ask Kareem. The sky hook was unstoppable.

 

[BusdriverE]

Reneau has a baby hook….does wembanyana have a hook shot? Do you think he needs one as well?

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Hook shot. 🤦🏻 ware has all the tools just needs to put them together. He should be our go to. Dude is good and it’s just starting for him. Dude should be good for 20/10 or more a night.

 

[Al Bino]

Hook shot. 🤦🏻 ware has all the tools just needs to put them together. He should be our go to. Dude is good and it’s just starting for him. Dude should be good for 20/10 or more a night.

And why not add one more tool to his repertoire?

As was said above, a good hook shot at his height would be unstoppable.

 

[bawlmer]

TJD and Race could have used hook shots, because they were pretty limited if they couldn't get to the rim. They both actually used it a bit, and should have more. Not saying Ware couldn't use it, but he's got a better jumper than any big we've seen at IU in a while, therefore less need for the hook.

 

[UTFO]

Or - perhaps of Kukla, Fran & Ollie fame, or Stan Laurel & Oliver "Ollie" Hardy ??

there is only one Ollie - Ollie Gelfand

 

[ulrey]

Ware's jump shot is too good to bother with a hook shot.

Whatever.

 

[Imsowyctcwuzbetta]

The hook is much more difficult to block. Ask Kareem. The sky hook was unstoppable.

Get Benson to come in... his hook was good

 

[TR32]

TJD and Race could have used hook shots, because they were pretty limited if they couldn't get to the rim. They both actually used it a bit, and should have more. Not saying Ware couldn't use it, but he's got a better jumper than any big we've seen at IU in a while, therefore less need for the hook.

TJD needed a short jumper, but his arsenal of moves was absolutely outstanding for a college player.

 

[TR32]

Get Benson to come in... his hook was good

I remember assistant coaches used to have us watch Benson on practice tapes, at camp back in the day. Guy had a great step thru and great hook shot. Helluva rebounder too.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Ware and Cupps - the season depends on them. If they show up each night, we have a shot to do some things as the year wears on.