UK Travis Perry to the portal
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He is a guard and we are pretty set there. Also he has uk stench.
With every portal entry I think you have to consider they might just be trying to get a bigger NIL payday. I'd have thought a KY kid at UK would have some homegrown NIL appeal, much like Leal did here, but with all their signings I'd guess he's just wondering if he might be able to get a 7 figure payday somewhere. If Cupps supposedly got 7 figures, this kid for sure should be able to,
I’m sure Pope was honest with him. He was probably not getting any time. He’s similar to Cupp.
Crazy that he could have taken a Purdue offer for the better part of a year, then Painter took Cox as he was tired of waiting. Now Perry is in the portal.
I don't think anyone really "knows" with Cupps. From the info I've seen, it sounds like a 7 figures TOTAL package...spread over a couple years.
He’s a rural Ky kid. Playing for UK is such a HUGE deal for them.
He was ALWAYS going to Kentucky. Like would have considered walking on there always going there...
And the only reason he'd go somewhere else now, is if Pope is actually kicking him off the team... and/or if he can get A LOT more money elsewhere. My guess is he'll be back if they have a roster spot for him.
He’s had the UK experience. He could simply just be looking for major minutes
I work with his uncle. I’m not going to ask him but if I hear anything about it I’ll post it.
I'd think he'd actually be fairly popular as a backup option at a high level, or starter at a lower level. Wasn't he the kid Pope was lauding last summer as one of the best shooters UK had ever had? I didn't watch a ton of UK last year, but I thought he showed quite a lot more promise than Cupps ever has.
He’s not bad. I’d say he’s a couple of steps above Cupps. Not sure he could be a starter at any SEC or BIG school. He’s bad defensively.
All about the fit and situation. He's A LOT more advanced offensively than Cupps is, especially shooting wise. But Cupps is a better ball handler and more willing passer, faster, taller/longer, and a markedly better defender.
Man, you saw a lot out of Cupps for a kid who barely even played last year. I had to check after your description to see what I missed. He played 4 games last year for a total of 25 minutes. Perry played in 31 games and averaged 10 mpg; on a team that was ranked most of the year. Maybe Cupps is all those things, but there really just wasn't enough PT to even form an opinion. Right now, I would think Perry would be in far greater demand that Gabe and at least showed he can play at this level. Cupps is still a big ?
Cupps didn't play much last year due to injury. He played 33 games the year before and averaged over 21 minutes per game.
Right, but was only playing because the roster was mismanaged and XJ was injured. Didn't do much and then didn't play, and both years on teams that didn't make the tourney. I'd not give him an edge over Perry in any area at this point. Not like Perry was a world beater but he played for a team that was solid all year and made the tourney. I watched one of the UT games and Perry looked really solid and made some plays that sparked their team. But, it was better than anything I saw Cupps do at IU in 2 years.
Cupps is better at the things I mentioned. Perry is better at the things I mentioned. It was the widely accepted scouting report for them, respectively, coming in to college. And both of them have proven it, thus far, in college.
Cupps became a regular rotation guy, his freshman year, before X got hurt...as a little detail. He remained a main rotation guy for the rest of the year. And he would have been a main rotation guy this year, if not for his injury. He did it for a bubble, roughly .500 B10 team. I don't know how that compares with a 10mpg guy on a better Kentucky team? But I wouldn't say its nearly as wide a gap as you're making it out to be?
And then... a head coach at a different B10 program thought enough of him to give him a pretty substantial NIL package, seemingly?? We'll see what Perry gets, maybe more, maybe less??
You using hyperbole again???
Cupps is a good ball handler, and excellent defender and a heady floor manager. His shot mechanics are god awful.
but Cupps is 2 years in. His freshman year, he didn't do much and looked lost. I watched almost all of his games. Game manager is a generous description. Maybe I saw Perry's highlight game of the year versus UT, but he looked pretty solid for a freshman. He looked to me like he "belonged" whereas Cupps rarely did. I agree, OSU's supposed deal is head scratching, but assuming they recruited him out of HS and liked him. Of course, Diebler may not be a B10 coach after this year. Right now, I'd take Perry over Cupps every day of the week. HS scouting reports don't mean much 2-3 years in. BTW, I have a friend who is a neighbor to a pretty well-known national guy and his review of Cupps was a more athletic Braden Smith.
Chicken or the egg? He's always played that way... high school, AAU, IU... Cupps is wired to be a facilitator, Perry a shooter/scorer.
I saw a lot swinging the ball around the perimeter from Cupps. But a very very small amount of creating anything. Rarely ever penetrated into the paint to create for anyone else. Yes, he had low turnovers, but alsp extremely low assists for a point guard. And I said when he was a frosh that I didn’t see those things improving. Creating for others and seeing the court to a large degree is an innate ability that he does not have. And yeah - he can’t make up for it with shooting. I’m glad to see him go.
He was basically a solid intangibles guy and not someone that produces much of anything.
I'd say he probably improves at OSU, he's a gym rat and a worker.. we'll see.
He was operating in a horrible inefficient offense... that often had very few driving lanes available.
What I saw from him in HS, and AAU... not sure if it helped or hurt my view of him at IU.
The good that I saw, even at IU... he pushed the ball up the floor with good pace. He looked up the floor for kick aheads. He did, 100%, get in to gaps and kick the ball, more so than any of our other guards, and he was a pretty good post entry passer. He was also a pretty effective catch and shoot, shooter...on the rare opportunities the offense created those types of shots for him.
The bad/questionable... he took way too many deep jumpers off the dribble, and he cut off his drives too early... I think that was probably partly attributed to IU playing with 2 bigs a lot of the time, and there just not being as much space to drive in to...but he obviously was anxious to get the ball moving and out of his hands...which, in many offenses is great, in Woodson's its largely wasted time.
Defensively...he was largely a very good defender. His slighter frame did allow him to get "bullied" every now and then. I can remember Thornton from OSU doing it. But he was a very active and disruptive defender out top. He also struggled a little bit off the ball. My very strong suspicion on that was he, like many others, had quite a lot of indecision on when and where they were supposed to help.
Looking back at his HS and AAU playing days...defensively anyways, he was much more decisive, and much better off the ball.
I have no idea what kind of coach Diebler is for OSU. If he teaches any sort of good team defensive principles, and has an offense based on spacing and ball movement... Everyone will see what kind of player Cupps was coming out of HS, and why he was rated where he was.
Time will tell. I agree that some of it could be the Woodson factor and the clogged lane. However, his assist rate was awful. And I didn’t see much of anything that gave me hope for him.
I’ll agree to disagree with you.
That has more to do with the schemes he was given and the other players in the floor than it does his ability I was really impressed with the kid’s BBIQ
Can't argue with the numbers, for sure. But this is a case where they weren't a great indicator on how he played. He was actually pretty active with the ball, and pretty active defensively. But as the numbers bear out, it often didn't lead to much of anything. A big part of that was the system, and the players he was working to get shots for...were mediocre with their execution and effectiveness. But Gabe also is never going to be a Braden Smith type of stat producer, no matter the coach or system.
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