Tucker is nice

[kurt cloverdales]

Leal??

dallas james brilliantly smart, practice player only, good with it

 

[Cavanagh]

dallas james brilliantly smart, practice player only, good with it

Nice. Good to hear

 

[Victorbmyboy]

just got home, met some people expectations are high, lot of invested money, they believe, 13th player is an amazing individual will make more money outside of basketball than the rest will make playing basketball over his lifetime

Kopp interview with Walsh touched on that. The IU network while playing and after playing is pretty massive. They are using that to recruit. The NIL cash is the quick money but the rest is life changing and Kopp said it’s insane compared to his other stop.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Kopp interview with Walsh touched on that. The IU network while playing and after playing is pretty massive. They are using that to recruit. The NIL cash is the quick money but the rest is life changing and Kopp said it’s insane compared to his other stop.

Nice to be taking advantage of the size of our program after so many years not really doing that.

 

[CriticArisen]

Leal??

Not sure what the answer will be but Leal does seem like a super good dude.

 

[Cavanagh]

Not sure what the answer will be but Leal does seem like a super good dude.

He is trying to take as much advantage of being on IUs basketball team as possible. Very smart.

 

[iubud]

it's way, way better than what it was towards the end of Crean and Archie. He's brought back many former players, and seems to be working to prioritize IN kids. Could it be better? Absolutely, but give credit where it's due; he's improved the program and fanbase and the players seem to love playing for him.

Woodson couldn't get the guards we needed last year. He was forced to rely too much on X's return. He learned from that. We did as good as I would have expected with Cupps and Gallo being our starting guards for most of the season.

Now we have a bench full of potential. Will they play well together? Are they mentally tough? No use predicting what will happen or who will start. I want that to be decided based on who wins on game day and not lock in a starting 5 and never change it. I'd like to start games with players that would disrupt our opponents game plan and force them to constantly adjust. I believe we have that kind of roster.

 

[Willdog7]

Woodson couldn't get the guards we needed last year. He was forced to rely too much on X's return. He learned from that. We did as good as I would have expected with Cupps and Gallo being our starting guards for most of the season.

Now we have a bench full of potential. Will they play well together? Are they mentally tough? No use predicting what will happen or who will start. I want that to be decided based on who wins on game day and not lock in a starting 5 and never change it. I'd like to start games with players that would disrupt our opponents game plan and force them to constantly adjust. I believe we have that kind of roster.

something positive

 

[Pryght]

 

[asindc]

I think that's totally fair, and agree, Woodson has legit criticisms to answer. Personally, I don't think he'll get us to the results we are looking for. I really don't get why at this level anyone hires someone who has no HC experience in college. DeShaun Foster is going to flame out at UCLA I believe, I remember similar questions when NC St hired Sydney Lowe, and Woodson still has a lot to deliver on his promises. Any good examples where it has really worked to hire someone with no college coaching experience? None come to mind.

But he has definitely improved the unity of the fanbase and I think with IN HS coaches who seemed to hate Archie and Crean. Striking out on Sisley, Mullins and Haralson would be very telling. Bare minimum I think he needs 1 of those guys and 2 would be good.

Larry Brown is the only example I can think of.

 

[VanPastorMan]

I didn't realize Tucker is 6'7. I bet we see a lot of him and Goode/Mack, two guards, and one of Ballo/Malik.

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2-3 inches taller than Gallo for sure, only a few shorter than Malik

I got a question. Does Coach Woodson call Ballo, Balloway?

 

[Willdog7]

Larry Brown is the only example I can think of.

Haters, hate

 

[asindc]

Haters, hate

??

 

[kkott]

Larry Brown is the only example I can think of.

Had to look it up, but his coaching record is so weird, not sure that is accurate. Wiki lists his first coaching experience as an asst at UNC, then coached 2 ABA teams, then UCLA, then the Nets, then Kansas. I forgot about the UCLA stint and it was only a couple years/seasons. Don't recall why that was. At any rate, if you're counting the KU stint as the success, he'd already been a college coach prior and he was at UNC for several years in the late 60s, at the beginning of his coaching career. It appears he went back to playing in the ABA afterwards. Guy is mercurial.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Had to look it up, but his coaching record is so weird, not sure that is accurate. Wiki lists his first coaching experience as an asst at UNC, then coached 2 ABA teams, then UCLA, then the Nets, then Kansas. I forgot about the UCLA stint and it was only a couple years/seasons. Don't recall why that was. At any rate, if you're counting the KU stint as the success, he'd already been a college coach prior and he was at UNC for several years in the late 60s, at the beginning of his coaching career. It appears he went back to playing in the ABA afterwards. Guy is mercurial.

Ha, his job history is insane.

 

[asindc]

Had to look it up, but his coaching record is so weird, not sure that is accurate. Wiki lists his first coaching experience as an asst at UNC, then coached 2 ABA teams, then UCLA, then the Nets, then Kansas. I forgot about the UCLA stint and it was only a couple years/seasons. Don't recall why that was. At any rate, if you're counting the KU stint as the success, he'd already been a college coach prior and he was at UNC for several years in the late 60s, at the beginning of his coaching career. It appears he went back to playing in the ABA afterwards. Guy is mercurial.

I was thinking about his UCLA stint. Wasn’t counting his assistant job at UNC. At any rate, I’ve always thought of him as a pro coach who for some reason chose to coach in college a couple of times.

 

[kkott]

I was thinking about his UCLA stint. Wasn’t counting his assistant job at UNC. At any rate, I’ve always thought of him as a pro coach who for some reason chose to coach in college a couple of times.

seems right. Do you remember why he was at UCLA such a short time? Nets offered that much more than UCLA, or did he have a controversy/problem at UCLA?

 

[IndyResident16]

seems right. Do you remember why he was at UCLA such a short time? Nets offered that much more than UCLA, or did he have a controversy/problem at UCLA?

He immediately became the fall guy for all of the transgressions that took place under Wooden's watch.

 

[kkott]

He immediately became the fall guy for all of the transgressions that took place under Wooden's watch.

Immediately? Third coach after Wooden left and 4 years later; doesn't sound right. Ironically a friend was Gene Bartow's daughter and he replaced JW at UCLA, but took the new UAB job 2 years later because they also made him AD and I think she said it more than doubled his salary, not to mention a dollar went a bit farther in Birmingham AB than Southern CA. His son Murray later replaced him at UAB and ultimately was interim coach at UCLA when Alford was dismissed. I've guessed that they are the only father-son duo who have coached at 2 different D1 programs. Super nice family.

 

[kkott]

Kopp interview with Walsh touched on that. The IU network while playing and after playing is pretty massive. They are using that to recruit. The NIL cash is the quick money but the rest is life changing and Kopp said it’s insane compared to his other stop.

Yep. I hope they sell the hell out of it, but not sure the message gets through with both Haralson and Mullins going elsewhere. I guess everyone thinks they'll be an NBA All-Star and won't ever need to tap that network, but it's a huge plus and I think both guys potentially cost themselves IF they aren't in the NBA for a long time. Be curious to hear someone like Eric Gordon or Thomas Bryant's view on how beneficial their IU connections have been to them.

 

[Brewskie]

seems right. Do you remember why he was at UCLA such a short time? Nets offered that much more than UCLA, or did he have a controversy/problem at UCLA?

He resigned after 2 seasons, but it's a guess as to why. Was first sign the man never stayed on a job for a long period of time. That UCLA title appearance was later vacated for ineligible players.

 

[asindc]

seems right. Do you remember why he was at UCLA such a short time? Nets offered that much more than UCLA, or did he have a controversy/problem at UCLA?

I don’t recall anything out of the ordinary about his UCLA experience. I just thought, along with many others, that he grew tired of recruiting, which is why I was surprised when he took the KU job. On a related note, a KU grad friend of mine told me that Brown caused a local scandal by getting involved with a young coed, which was a factor in him leaving there.

 

[Cavanagh]

Be curious to hear someone like Eric Gordon or Thomas Bryant's view on how beneficial their IU connections have been to them.

Gordon is still in the league, TB I think too? Those aren't the guys it has helped. You wanna talk to Coverdale and Newton.