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Trump sides with Putin....once again proving to be Russian puppet

The idea that someone who blindly supports a man who actually talked about Revolutionary War fighters 'ramming the ramparts' and taking the airports would be critical of anyone else's public speaking is pretty wild.
That’s why he’s a billionaire you’re not!
 
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He never said putin was smart for invading jeeezuz, therein lies the problem with anti trumpers like you and more than half this board. Your all brainwashed by the elite led msm. He said it was savvy for lining up on the border and playing the peacekeeper and we should do the same on our southern border which is a f* king disaster. None of you admit that or any other disasters this admin is responsible for.

Your comment is exactly why the left and right are so split. The msm. They TOTALLY achieved what they set out to do. And guess who runs the elites that run the msm. The prince of the power of the air. Once you learn WHO is in charge of the airwaves you'll be able to use your mind (heart) to try and make sense of it all.
It's not the MSM that's caused Trump to say indefensible things and for Trumpsters to defend him for it.
 
So are you above "catturd" in intellect, or is there someone else that can better answer this question?

Exactly what "credibility" does a Special Prosecutor, who already stated his belief that "fraud" occurred prior to being appointed by the head of the gerrymandered Legislature to lead a partisan "investigation" have? You people didn't like Mueller, but he was a life time Republican law officer appointed by a member of Trump's own Cabinet...

So Vos appoints Gableman and we have a repeat of the Mueller scenario with a gerrymandered Assembly Speaker appointing another lifelong GOP activist with no one speaking for the majority of Wisconsin voters who have elected only Democrats in statewide races since 2018. And somehow these same gerrymandered GOP Legislatures who were able to win their seats in 2020 (on the same ballot with Don Trump, btw) are able to declare that the elections they won (but Trump lost) are fraudulent? Why aren't they resigning in shame, after being elected in a sham election?

It's AZ, not WI, but people in AZ are wondering the same thing about their elections there, with regards to why Legislators winning fraudulent elections have not resigned? Exact same question applies to "elected Republicans" in WI...

 
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So are you above "catturd" in intellect, or is there someone else that can better answer this question?

Exactly what "credibility" does a Special Prosecutor, who already stated his belief that "fraud" occurred prior to being appointed by the head of the gerrymandered Legislature to lead a partisan "investigation" have? You people didn't like Mueller, but he was a life time Republican law officer appointed by a member of Trump's own Cabinet...

So Vos appoints Gableman and we have a repeat of the Mueller scenario with a gerrymandered Assembly Speaker appointing another lifelong GOP activist with no one speaking for the majority of Wisconsin voters who have elected only Democrats in statewide races since 2018. And somehow these same gerrymandered GOP Legislatures who were able to win their seats in 2020 (on the same ballot with Don Trump, btw) are able to declare that the elections they won (but Trump lost) are fraudulent? Why aren't they resigning in shame, after being elected in a sham election?

It's AZ, not WI, but people in AZ are wondering the same thing about their elections there, with regards to why Legislators winning fraudulent elections have not resigned? Exact same question applies to "elected Republicans" in WI...

Because the Republicans all won legitimately. It was the Dems committing fraud with the mail in balloting scam. Why would someone resign if they did nothing wrong or wasn't a beneficiary of the fraud?
 
Because the Republicans all won legitimately. It was the Dems committing fraud with the mail in balloting scam. Why would someone resign if they did nothing wrong or wasn't a beneficiary of the fraud?

If the votes were fraud then the whole ballet was fraud, not just the part that was for a democrat

Dumbass
 
Democrats and some Republicans have called the Wisconsin investigation a “sham.”

Gov. Tony Evers called it a “circus” and an “embarrassment for our state.”

Moreover, the underlying contentions were available for legal challenge, and either failed completely to have traction or were not among the 80 or so cases all dropped for lack of merit.
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“This effort has drawn bipartisan opposition, and nothing about it has changed or will change what the courts, the nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau, and multiple other reviews have already proven: Wisconsin held a free, fair, and secure election in November 2020.

That's nice, but you haven't argued the findings, have you?
 
How many court cases were thrown out - or never taken up - over supposed election fraud? How many REPUBLICANS need to come out and say that there was no election fraud and that the election wasn't fixed? Bill Barr is the most recent example.

All I see are half-baked, off-the-wall tweets (seriously - you posted a tweet by someone named Catturd) and rants by crazy people like Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell. I'm not even going to ask you provide substantial/verifiable evidence because it'd be like asking you to pull 10 million dollars out of your ass. You just can't do it because you can't provide something that doesn't exist.
Where do you find fault with the findings?

The findings weren't by Cattturd - he just reported it.
 
It's not the MSM that's caused Trump to say indefensible things and for Trumpsters to defend him for it.
Well, if he never said it but the MSM reported he did, then how did what he say is indefensible?
 
Because the Republicans all won legitimately. It was the Dems committing fraud with the mail in balloting scam. Why would someone resign if they did nothing wrong or wasn't a beneficiary of the fraud?
So in all these states all of these "fraudulent ballots" that included votes for GOP Legislators (but not Trump) are "illegal"? How exactly does that work?

You are the woman in this video punking Ron Johnson. The difference is that she is playing a role (and acting like an idiot), while you obviously believe the nonsense she is mockingly claiming....

You obviously believe it, but you have the same problem to explain that he is pointing out to her. Trump got 50,000 votes less than other Republicans in Wisconsin. Are you suggesting people "cheated" Trump (stole votes from him), but the same people didn't steal votes from other Republicans?

What kind of wacko strategy is that?
And that is a common situation in ALL of the battleground states. That's what makes them battlegrounds- people vote for candidates of both parties. That's why GOP downline candidates did well- moderates voted for Biden but also for down ballot Pubs to preserve divided Government...

 
So in all these states all of these "fraudulent ballots" that included votes for GOP Legislators (but not Trump) are "illegal"? How exactly does that work?

You are the woman in this video punking Ron Johnson. The difference is that she is playing a role (and acting like an idiot), while you obviously believe the nonsense she is mockingly claiming....

You obviously believe it, but you have the same problem to explain that he is pointing out to her. Trump got 50,000 votes less than other Republicans in Wisconsin. Are you suggesting people "cheated" Trump (stole votes from him), but the same people didn't steal votes from other Republicans?

What kind of wacko strategy is that?
And that is a common situation in ALL of the battleground states. That's what makes them battlegrounds- people vote for candidates of both parties. That's why GOP downline candidates did well- moderates voted for Biden but also for down ballot Pubs to preserve divided Government...

I sense your frustration relative to the war not going so well for you all…
 
I sense your frustration relative to the war not going so well for you all…
I don't even know what that means? No one of any intelligence thinks the election was "stolen", at least on this board...

You've admitted you're not very educated regarding politics. Why stick yourself into a lunatic fringe conspiracy theory, and destroy any semblance of credibility you pretend to have?
 
Really? Can you or your groupie DANC explain how other Republicans got more votes than Trump?
What in the hell does that have to do with anything? The fraud was 100% with the mail in votes of which the vast majority were Dem.

In Wisconsin you have to have been "indefinitely confined" to vote by mail. All the votes cast by voters who fraudulently claimed indefinitely confined status have be thrown out but there are a lot more D votes in that category than R.
 
You are the one saying Trump wasn't worried about Russia. It was actually Obama. Even Hillary knew the Russians are evil.

Trump was never anti-NATO or isolationist. He encouraged NATO to start paying their own way and wanted US out of Afghanistan, which most Democrats did, too.

Just because he wasn't antagonizing Putin or North Korea doesn't mean he was appeasing them.

Both Romney and Trump saw our adversaries for what they are - Trump's strategy was to bring the heat down and deal with them calmly, from strength, instead of blustering all the time.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who voted twice to convict Trump on articles of impeachment, said statements defending Putin are “almost treasonous.”

“It just makes me ill to see some of these people do that. But of course they do it because it’s shock value and it’s going to get them maybe more eyeballs and make a little more money for them or their network,”
 
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What in the hell does that have to do with anything? The fraud was 100% with the mail in votes of which the vast majority were Dem.

In Wisconsin you have to have been "indefinitely confined" to vote by mail. All the votes cast by voters who fraudulently claimed indefinitely confined status have be thrown out but there are a lot more D votes in that category than R.
That doesn't explain why down ballot Republicans won and Trump lost. If the votes are fraudulent (and they're not), all the votes on those ballots are fraudulent and invalid.

I don't understand your second paragraph at all. It doesn't make sense.

Let's face it. Absentee voting used to heavily favor Republicans for various reasonable reasons, but this time around they didn't for one obvious reason. Trump (and his obedient Trumpsters) baselessly and stupidly claimed that Republicans voting by mail would be at risk of not having their votes counted (I voted by mail and I'm confident it counted) and that voting in person was the only reasonable way of having a "fair" election. Trump set it up so that the majority absentee ballots were going to flip to Democratic from Republican. and since many states weren't allowed to start counting them until election day (mostly due to laws passed by Republicans) it was inevitable that Trump would have election day leads in several states that would disappear once absentee votes were counted. This is all obvious to anyone with common sense.

Trump cost the GOP at least one Senate seat (probably two) in Georgia during the runoff due to his again baseless (and false) claims of voter fraud in that state. Once again, if you're a Republican and think your vote isn't going to count, why would you vote? It was a recipe for GOP Senate losses in a state that favored the GOP. How can anyone support a man who does such obvious political damage to the GOP? Unless, of course, for the many Trumpsters that are members of the cult and don't care a whit about the GOP. It's self-defeating.
 
That doesn't explain why down ballot Republicans won and Trump lost. If the votes are fraudulent (and they're not), all the votes on those ballots are fraudulent and invalid.

I don't understand your second paragraph at all. It doesn't make sense.

Let's face it. Absentee voting used to heavily favor Republicans for various reasonable reasons, but this time around they didn't for one obvious reason. Trump (and his obedient Trumpsters) baselessly and stupidly claimed that Republicans voting by mail would be at risk of not having their votes counted (I voted by mail and I'm confident it counted) and that voting in person was the only reasonable way of having a "fair" election. Trump set it up so that the majority absentee ballots were going to flip to Democratic from Republican. and since many states weren't allowed to start counting them until election day (mostly due to laws passed by Republicans) it was inevitable that Trump would have election day leads in several states that would disappear once absentee votes were counted. This is all obvious to anyone with common sense.

Trump cost the GOP at least one Senate seat (probably two) in Georgia during the runoff due to his again baseless (and false) claims of voter fraud in that state. Once again, if you're a Republican and think your vote isn't going to count, why would you vote? It was a recipe for GOP Senate losses in a state that favored the GOP. How can anyone support a man who does such obvious political damage to the GOP? Unless, of course, for the many Trumpsters that are members of the cult and don't care a whit about the GOP. It's self-defeating.
How does it not make sense? If roughly 250k people voted illegally by mail in Wisconsin they all have to be thrown out. If 75% were Biden votes and 25% were for Trump then that means Trump easily carried Wisconsin given that the margin was about 20k.
 
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Hahahaha Wisconsin today shoved that up your a$$.
No matter how many times Lucy puts the football down, Charlie Brown would always line up to try and kick it.

“Wisconsin” is the latest football for the election fraud conspiracy theorists. It’s almost not fun anymore to see the football pulled away and for people like you to fall on your backside. Almost.
 
How does it not make sense? If roughly 250k people voted illegally by mail in Wisconsin they all have to be thrown out. If 75% were Biden votes and 25% were for Trump then that means Trump easily carried Wisconsin given that the margin was about 20k.
What 250K illegal voters are you talking about? There weren't 250K illegal votes in Wisconsin and it's been debunked several times, like this one:


Don't give me the "can't believe the MSM" line. I've done more than my share of criticism of MSM over the years, but these are facts and the sources confirm them.

Even if Trump had squeaked by in Wisconsin, which he legitimately lost, he still lost the election nation-wide. In fact it was a popular vote landslide for Biden.

Also, it still doesn't explain how Republicans won down ballot in many races while Trump lost. If Trump lost due to fraudulent votes many of those Republicans would have lost too. The explanation for that is simple. Millions of people like me voted for nearly all the Republicans on the ballot while voting against the RINO and despicable person running as a Republican for President. Simple.

The only way to possibly understand this ridiculous belief that the election was stolen is to see that Trumpsters believe anything that their cult leader tells them. It's a lie. Think.
 
Trump got more votes than McSally, McConnell, Graham, Ernst, etc. He's not a drag on the Republican Party. Quite the opposite.
 
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Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who voted twice to convict Trump on articles of impeachment, said statements defending Putin are “almost treasonous.”

“It just makes me ill to see some of these people do that. But of course they do it because it’s shock value and it’s going to get them maybe more eyeballs and make a little more money for them or their network,”
Romney is not exactly objective, since he and Trump have been feuding a long time.

He's still butt-hurt Trump won in 2016 and got far more votes than he got when he ran for President.

He's just piling on.
 
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That doesn't explain why down ballot Republicans won and Trump lost. If the votes are fraudulent (and they're not), all the votes on those ballots are fraudulent and invalid.

I don't understand your second paragraph at all. It doesn't make sense.

Let's face it. Absentee voting used to heavily favor Republicans for various reasonable reasons, but this time around they didn't for one obvious reason. Trump (and his obedient Trumpsters) baselessly and stupidly claimed that Republicans voting by mail would be at risk of not having their votes counted (I voted by mail and I'm confident it counted) and that voting in person was the only reasonable way of having a "fair" election. Trump set it up so that the majority absentee ballots were going to flip to Democratic from Republican. and since many states weren't allowed to start counting them until election day (mostly due to laws passed by Republicans) it was inevitable that Trump would have election day leads in several states that would disappear once absentee votes were counted. This is all obvious to anyone with common sense.

Trump cost the GOP at least one Senate seat (probably two) in Georgia during the runoff due to his again baseless (and false) claims of voter fraud in that state. Once again, if you're a Republican and think your vote isn't going to count, why would you vote? It was a recipe for GOP Senate losses in a state that favored the GOP. How can anyone support a man who does such obvious political damage to the GOP? Unless, of course, for the many Trumpsters that are members of the cult and don't care a whit about the GOP. It's self-defeating.
Well said.
 
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Romney is not exactly objective, since he and Trump have been feuding a long time.

He's still butt-hurt Trump won in 2016 and got far more votes than he got when he ran for President.

He's just piling on.
He's not butt-hurt by that or anything else - besides Romney got a higher percentage of the popular vote than Trump did. They both lost the popular vote.

It's an amazing phenomenon that any Republican that has a crossword for Trump (who deserves so many) is turned on by Trumpsters. Trump and his loyal Trumpsters are snowflakes.
 
He's not butt-hurt by that or anything else - besides Romney got a higher percentage of the popular vote than Trump did. They both lost the popular vote.

It's an amazing phenomenon that any Republican that has a crossword for Trump (who deserves so many) is turned on by Trumpsters. Trump and his loyal Trumpsters are snowflakes.
Snowflakes? 2020 called and wants that term back.

You know full well Romney is not objective when it comes to Trump. He's absolutely butt-hurt Trump ever got the nomination, because Trump mocked him as a loser in 2012.

I like - or used to - like MItt. I thought he'd be a great President. Still do, compared to any Democrat. But he, like many, including you, have a real blind spot when it comes to Trump. It's like waving a red cape in front of a bull. It clouds your thinking and puts you in a place where you're actually voting against what you really believe.

But let's not act like Romney is some kind of objective observer.
 
Snowflakes? 2020 called and wants that term back.

You know full well Romney is not objective when it comes to Trump. He's absolutely butt-hurt Trump ever got the nomination, because Trump mocked him as a loser in 2012.

I like - or used to - like MItt. I thought he'd be a great President. Still do, compared to any Democrat. But he, like many, including you, have a real blind spot when it comes to Trump. It's like waving a red cape in front of a bull. It clouds your thinking and puts you in a place where you're actually voting against what you really believe.

But let's not act like Romney is some kind of objective observer.
You've got the blind spots and objectivity opposite. I may well have missed one or two, but you've defended every blatant lie or indefensible statement that Trump has told. I have defended Trump's statements or policies when they've deserved defending.

We agree that Romney likely would have been an excellent President.
 
You've got the blind spots and objectivity opposite. I may well have missed one or two, but you've defended every blatant lie or indefensible statement that Trump has told. I have defended Trump's statements or policies when they've deserved defending.

We agree that Romney likely would have been an excellent President.
You have missed many of my posts then.
 
That's not what he is posting about. He's talking about the number of over-100 year olds that voted.
That's covered in the fact check. It's all false. It's obviously false. Trumpsters want to believe so badly that they believe nonsense.

Voter fraud has been a subject of interest for me for years. If I could find actual widespread voter fraud, especially Democratic voter fraud, I'd be trumpeting it despite the fact that I think Trump was and is unfit to be our President. There wasn't any so I'm not.
 
That's covered in the fact check. It's all false. It's obviously false. Trumpsters want to believe so badly that they believe nonsense.

Voter fraud has been a subject of interest for me for years. If I could find actual widespread voter fraud, especially Democratic voter fraud, I'd be trumpeting it despite the fact that I think Trump was and is unfit to be our President. There wasn't any so I'm not.
"The short answer is that the old dates come from merging municipal records statewide more than a decade ago, and the 1900 and 1918 were used as default dates if the records lacked a date of birth or registration date."

So, in other words, voter registrations that were improperly filled out, and accepted as valid, had bogus birthdates filled in. But that's not voter fraud?

What qualifies as voter fraud to you - serious question.
 
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