The way CMW sees it-every cloud has a silver lining (every injury provides a new excuse). The Next Excuse Up coaching philosophy he honed through hundreds of NBA losses.
Meniscus is generally the quickest to recover from of any knee injury. I think Cody had that in Charlotte had surgery and was playing again in 5-6 weeks. I'm sure there are different degrees, but if you're going to have a knee injury, that's generally the best one to have, from what little I know. But, yes, if he tore or seriously injured his meniscus, he's probably done for the year since there are only a few weeks left.Wow I have had 4 torn meniscus surgeries, and they never took that long to fully recover. I have had two ACL reconstructions, and they took longer but meniscus surgery usually is not that bad.
Isiah Swope is playing out the season for ISU and will not have his meniscus tear repaired until after the season.
I think that's the difference: folks talking about their wives or their own meniscus injury for someone in their 40s and 50s is a totally different thing than an early twenties D1 athlete, with PT and training staff and pretty much unlimited time and resources to rehab. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you're going to tear a knee ligament, meniscus is usually the least severe and in most cases athletes recover pretty quickly and fully. If he tore his meniscus, he's done for our year, but with a whole offseason to recover, he should be 100% by next year... heck, by June most likely.Are you intentionally throwing out BS? Not to jump ahead of the docs on here, but that is a fairly easy surgery to rehabilitate. A young stud athlete like Trey would likely be back on the court within a few months. I had the same in my 40s and was back playing bball in 4 months. And have never had an issue with it since. It’s a very common surgery.
I must have had better luck. Surgery was Friday. I could walk the next day and was at work Monday. Wasn’t playing power 5 conference basketball of course.no, i'm not at all, just stating what i have personally witnessed as far as "feeling yourself" again after that surgery. You are you, Trey is Trey, my wife is my wife ... nothing more implied. I just know it takes a long time to feel like yourself again, let alone play B10 ball at the level he had in like 6 months. Not suggesting he do anything other than what he wants to do.
You really need to add context to this comment.I've seen guys play with it...
Do you guys gear yourselves, making excuses for him? He has said nothing like that. His motto has always been the next man up.He's already charmed himself into another season so doubt he will as much as he did with X. Even with the injuries, IU shouldnt have lost to NW, PSU at home. 12-8 and 1-1 this week could have gotten his behind in Dayton next week.
I think we both can agree...once you hit 50...things just don't heal like they used do. Even hangovers. dammit.I think that's the difference: folks talking about their wives or their own meniscus injury for someone in their 40s and 50s is a totally different thing than an early twenties D1 athlete, with PT and training staff and pretty much unlimited time and resources to rehab. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you're going to tear a knee ligament, meniscus is usually the least severe and in most cases athletes recover pretty quickly and fully. If he tore his meniscus, he's done for our year, but with a whole offseason to recover, he should be 100% by next year... heck, by June most likely.
Except when he's used X's injury, over and over and over again, this year as an excuse. And when he used Race's injuries last year.Do you guys gear yourselves, making excuses for him? He has said nothing like that. His motto has always been the next man up.
After watching those late night games at the pub, drink water before bedtime. It counteracts the dehydration caused by the alcohol.I think we both can agree...once you hit 50...things just don't heal like they used do. Even hangovers. dammit.
I've learned to work a water in between each drink. My co-worker swears on taking B6 tablets with water before sleep. I also have some of those hangover patches which is basically a mass infusion of B6 and B12. Got a big trade show in DC next week, three nights straight, so we'll see how it goes.After watching those late night games at the pub, drink water before bedtime. It counteracts the dehydration caused by the alcohol.
You'll have to get up during the night but, since you're 50, you're probably doing that anyway.
In the same boat. My Doctor told me to just try and be very intentional about sleep. No caffeine after my morning coffee, and limit drinking anything after 7pm where possible and then empty your bladder before bed. If I do those things, I can generally limit it to 1 bathroom break a night. If I go out drinking and don't? Man, could be up 5-6X. I haven't sworn off drinking, but I don't drink much at all now. Hardly ever by myself and try and stop after 2-3 most other nights. I also do the water between each alcoholic drink and that helps a ton and I think is good advice for anyone.I've learned to work a water in between each drink. My co-worker swears on taking B6 tablets with water before sleep. I also have some of those hangover patches which is basically a mass infusion of B6 and B12. Got a big trade show in DC next week, three nights straight, so we'll see how it goes.
Getting up at night.....don't even start. I don't get 7 hrs of sleep anymore. I take three consecutive 2 hour naps and wake up feeling like shite most mornings. Getting old sucks.
Like anything else, the severity of the tear, how much damage there was around the meniscus, how Trey responds to the surgery when/if he has one... that will determine whether he plays any more this season, or if he has surgery, how well he recovers. I'd be surprised if it was bad enough that it would effect him next season, no matter what though.I think that's the difference: folks talking about their wives or their own meniscus injury for someone in their 40s and 50s is a totally different thing than an early twenties D1 athlete, with PT and training staff and pretty much unlimited time and resources to rehab. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you're going to tear a knee ligament, meniscus is usually the least severe and in most cases athletes recover pretty quickly and fully. If he tore his meniscus, he's done for our year, but with a whole offseason to recover, he should be 100% by next year... heck, by June most likely.
Stop...I'm trying to keep optimistic thoughts afloat in my head!Of NBA coaches that have 400 games minimum CMW’s win % of 46.3% is 33 worst in history. Of those 33 only 15 have more than 350 losses (CMW 365 losses). There are 109 coaches that have 400+ games so CMW is in rarified company keeping his job with poor results.
"he's probably done for the year since there are only a few weeks left."Meniscus is generally the quickest to recover from of any knee injury. I think Cody had that in Charlotte had surgery and was playing again in 5-6 weeks. I'm sure there are different degrees, but if you're going to have a knee injury, that's generally the best one to have, from what little I know. But, yes, if he tore or seriously injured his meniscus, he's probably done for the year since there are only a few weeks left.
You are right-sorry-just ignore his coaching recordStop...I'm trying to keep optimistic thoughts afloat in my head!
Since folks can't resist anecdotal stories based on a single friend, relative, or personal experience and offering it as gospel, "here's the deal":Just heard he has a torn meniscus. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
yep doing same thing. We had our yearly sales conf in January and a few people asked me if I had gone to a dry life. Just told them I can't hang with the youngins anymore. Anytime my wife drags me to a weekend party and I put them down in mass quantities to fight off the boredom, I spent the entire next day on the couch cursing God. Travel work days with a hangover are the worst. Did that a few yrs back and had to do a preso the next morning and almost threw up on my shoes in front of people. Never again.In the same boat. My Doctor told me to just try and be very intentional about sleep. No caffeine after my morning coffee, and limit drinking anything after 7pm where possible and then empty your bladder before bed. If I do those things, I can generally limit it to 1 bathroom break a night. If I go out drinking and don't? Man, could be up 5-6X. I haven't sworn off drinking, but I don't drink much at all now. Hardly ever by myself and try and stop after 2-3 most other nights. I also do the water between each alcoholic drink and that helps a ton and I think is good advice for anyone.
yep doing same thing. We had our yearly sales conf in January and a few people asked me if I had gone to a dry life. Just told them I can't hang with the youngins anymore. Anytime my wife drags me to a weekend party and I put them down in mass quantities to fight off the boredom, I spent the entire next day on the couch cursing God. Travel work days with a hangover are the worst. Did that a few yrs back and had to do a preso the next morning and almost threw up on my shoes in front of people. Never again.
Just wear rubber boots -washes right off.yep doing same thing. We had our yearly sales conf in January and a few people asked me if I had gone to a dry life. Just told them I can't hang with the youngins anymore. Anytime my wife drags me to a weekend party and I put them down in mass quantities to fight off the boredom, I spent the entire next day on the couch cursing God. Travel work days with a hangover are the worst. Did that a few yrs back and had to do a preso the next morning and almost threw up on my shoes in front of people. Never again.
Kind of like “it’s on me, but I don’t miss those shots”Except when he's used X's injury, over and over and over again, this year as an excuse. And when he used Race's injuries last year.
Woody does often say "Next man up" type phrases. But very often immediately follows it up with "but man, you know its tough without X" type comments.
yeah I know. The nights of meetings 10 yrs ago were stuff of legends. We were actually asked not to return to a particular hotel in S Florida one year, after various incidents including a couple visits from the local police. I think some of us cannot legally enter the city limits of Boca Raton. Now, we're shells of our former abusive selves.
Getting up at night.....don't even start. I don't get 7 hrs of sleep anymore. I take three consecutive 2 hour naps and wake up feeling like shite most mornings. Getting old sucks.
Maybe don't go to Puerto Rico for vacation either, as an IU fan.yeah I know. The nights of meetings 10 yrs ago were stuff of legends. We were actually asked not to return to a particular hotel in S Florida one year, after various incidents including a couple visits from the local police. I think some of us cannot legally enter the city limits of Boca Raton. Now, we're shells of our former abusive selves.
TBF, Edge had a torn ACL.I remember when Edgerin James had knee surgery. He said, "I played a year later, but I really didn't feel like my old self until year two after surgery".
was there in Oct. But for the job. Didn't mention RMK's name. I'm not stupid.....Maybe don't go to Puerto Rico for vacation either, as an IU fan.
My sister was there and she said anytime people asked her where she was from, they still mentioned Bobby Knight. Lolwas there in Oct. But for the job. Didn't mention RMK's name. I'm not stupid.....
That's what I was thinking. Meniscus tears are very common, & certainly not typically the most severe as far as knee injuries & surgeries go.Are you intentionally throwing out BS? Not to jump ahead of the docs on here, but that is a fairly easy surgery to rehabilitate. A young stud athlete like Trey would likely be back on the court within a few months. I had the same in my 40s and was back playing bball in 4 months. And have never had an issue with it since. It’s a very common surgery.
The meniscus is not actually a ligament but a cartilage "pad" between the femur and the tibia.I think that's the difference: folks talking about their wives or their own meniscus injury for someone in their 40s and 50s is a totally different thing than an early twenties D1 athlete, with PT and training staff and pretty much unlimited time and resources to rehab. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you're going to tear a knee ligament, meniscus is usually the least severe and in most cases athletes recover pretty quickly and fully. If he tore his meniscus, he's done for our year, but with a whole offseason to recover, he should be 100% by next year... heck, by June most likely.
That sucks, I actually like Galloway. Indiana will have a really hard time winning without him.Just heard he has a torn meniscus. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
so loosing another senior guard isn’t a problem or have any negative impact on this team?The way CMW sees it-every cloud has a silver lining (every injury provides a new excuse). The Next Excuse Up coaching philosophy he honed through hundreds of NBA losses.
Or, you could just drink Coors Lite. (The water is already mixed in.)I've learned to work a water in between each drink. My co-worker swears on taking B6 tablets with water before sleep. I also have some of those hangover patches which is basically a mass infusion of B6 and B12. Got a big trade show in DC next week, three nights straight, so we'll see how it goes.
Getting up at night.....don't even start. I don't get 7 hrs of sleep anymore. I take three consecutive 2 hour naps and wake up feeling like shite most mornings. Getting old sucks.
Watching IU play this year would drive anyone to drink , even if they haven't before!In the same boat. My Doctor told me to just try and be very intentional about sleep. No caffeine after my morning coffee, and limit drinking anything after 7pm where possible and then empty your bladder before bed. If I do those things, I can generally limit it to 1 bathroom break a night. If I go out drinking and don't? Man, could be up 5-6X. I haven't sworn off drinking, but I don't drink much at all now. Hardly ever by myself and try and stop after 2-3 most other nights. I also do the water between each alcoholic drink and that helps a ton and I think is good advice for anyone.
I’m not a domestic beer guy much. I’ll tell you when it’s 110 heat index. I love me some almost-so-cold-it-almost-freezes blue mountain Coors light. After working all day and mowing especially.Or, you could just drink Coors Lite. (The water is already mixed in.)
worse than that evansville water lolI’m not a domestic beer guy much. I’ll tell you when it’s 110 heat index. I love me some almost-so-cold-it-almost-freezes blue mountain Coors light. After working all day and mowing especially.
Ehhh. I don’t normally buy either one. Only when 3000 degrees outside.worse than that evansville water lol