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Time to quit dicking around!

I'm guessing Dolson is in the drivers seat now after doing an amazing job with FB (literally worth tens of millions of dollars to IU) and from what I can tell he wanted to move on from Woody last year (good call!). He has delivered great results as AD. I don't know who he hires, but I think there is a good chance he is left along to make the decision (no more trustee and donor input -- they don't know anything about hiring coaches) and he gets it right. Go Scott go.
 
I'm guessing Dolson is in the drivers seat now after doing an amazing job with FB (literally worth tens of millions of dollars to IU) and from what I can tell he wanted to move on from Woody last year (good call!). He has delivered great results as AD. I don't know who he hires, but I think there is a good chance he is left along to make the decision (no more trustee and donor input -- they don't know anything about hiring coaches) and he gets it right. Go Scott go.
Why would the board and or donors be willing to give up control?
 
Why would the board and or donors be willing to give up control?
Their decisions led to this terrible bball program and they would like a good bball program. Some of them won't be listened to anymore.

Look, I'm just holding out hope we can make a good hire next time around. If people are skeptical I get it, our history of hiring coaches is not good.
 
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The Raiders’ owner is bringing in Brady so they have someone that really knows something about football on the ownership team to help pick a new coach.
….and they are considering Primetime. Might be a perfect fit for that organization?
 
The Raiders’ owner is bringing in Brady so they have someone that really knows something about football on the ownership team to help pick a new coach.
Those sorts of moves only work if they allow the guys like Brady to actually make the decisions. Often, they pay them well, they say things like what you said about why they’re there, but the Brady like people just end up being marketing props. If Raiders ownership were actually serious about winning, they’d give up basically all football operations power, hire a good, proven GM, and let them do their job.
 
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Their decisions led to this terrible bball program and they would like a good bball program. Some of them won't be listened to anymore.

Look, I'm just holding out hope we can make a good hire next time around. If people are skeptical I get it, our history of hiring coaches is not good.
Didn't Dolson hire a "search firm" to identify candidates for the football job? An actual outside entity who earns their keep doing this?

IIRC, basketball has in the past, constructed "search panels", insiders who supposedly do what the search firm does. I remember Harry Gonzo being a prominent part of the group that hired Archie.

Anyway, hire the firm, clearly lay out what you're looking for, and conduct the interviews. After that it's hope for the best.
 
Didn't Dolson hire a "search firm" to identify candidates for the football job? An actual outside entity who earns their keep doing this?

IIRC, basketball has in the past, constructed "search panels", insiders who supposedly do what the search firm does. I remember Harry Gonzo being a prominent part of the group that hired Archie.

Anyway, hire the firm, clearly lay out what you're looking for, and conduct the interviews. After that it's hope for the best.
Yea, but I think those firms help come up with a list of actionable coaches, put out no-name "feelers" to gauge interest, and do background checks. The decision is likely down the AD, and of course they need to convince the candidate to come here.

A search panel hired Davis, they didn't even interview anyone else (insane). I think Fred sort of did he own thing with the Archie hire, I don't recall a panel for that one. That's one instance our AD had a fairly clear shot at the hire and he just got it wrong, part of the issue was Fred didn't have AD experience, but he acted reasonably and just got it wrong.
 
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Those sorts of moves only work if they allow the guys like Brady to actually make the decisions. Often, they pay them well, they say things like what you said about why they’re there, but the Brady like people just end up being marketing props. If Raiders ownership were actually serious about winning, they’d give up basically all football operations power, hire a good, proven GM, and let them do their job.
Does Brady know anything about hiring a coach? Maybe. But players, even great ones, can be bad execs. Plenty of examples. MJ for one.
 
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Those sorts of moves only work if they allow the guys like Brady to actually make the decisions. Often, they pay them well, they say things like what you said about why they’re there, but the Brady like people just end up being marketing props. If Raiders ownership were actually serious about winning, they’d give up basically all football operations power, hire a good, proven GM, and let them do their job.
I believe Davis sincere and rumor has it that Brady is supporting Ben Johnson from the Lions. I don’t know what the deal is with their GM that is also a vacancy. There is always risk but good managers respect the ability of competent people other than themselves, albeit Brady or a new GM, and that was my point.
 
Yea, but I think those firms help come up with a list of actionable coaches, put out no-name "feelers" to gauge interest, and do background checks. The decision is likely down the AD, and of course they need to convince the candidate to come here.

A search panel hired Davis, they didn't even interview anyone else (insane). I think Fred sort of did he own thing with the Archie hire, I don't recall a panel for that one. That's one instance our AD had a fairly clear shot at the hire and he just got it wrong, part of the issue was Fred didn't have AD experience, but he acted reasonably and just got it wrong.
Right, here's a pool of candidates who fit your criteria. It's up to Dolson to choose.

When it's all going down, IMO, Stevens won't be part of that pool, nor will Beard, or Pearl, or Donovan, or any of the names we love to bring up.
 
Right, here's a pool of candidates who fit your criteria. It's up to Dolson to choose.

When it's all going down, IMO, Stevens won't be part of that pool, nor will Beard, or Pearl, or Donovan, or any of the names we love to bring up.
Probably not. I've got no idea who we should hire. I'm counting on Scott to figure it out -- fingers crossed.
 
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Their decisions led to this terrible bball program and they would like a good bball program. Some of them won't be listened to anymore.

Look, I'm just holding out hope we can make a good hire next time around. If people are skeptical I get it, our history of hiring coaches is not good.

I have zero insight into the inner workings of IU basketball, but I would suggest that people in control, well, like being in control. Ceding control for a "better outcome" isn't something that people in power are inclined to do.

This may or may not ne relevant to IUBB. I have no idea.
 
Right, here's a pool of candidates who fit your criteria. It's up to Dolson to choose.

When it's all going down, IMO, Stevens won't be part of that pool, nor will Beard, or Pearl, or Donovan, or any of the names we love to bring up.
I don’t think Stevens would be either. Like last time he’ll just be a phone call, or calls, directly from Dolson. He wouldn’t come up on any search firms radar. And the others likely wouldn’t have interest.
 
IU is going to have to go all in on devoting resources to football until the stupid basketball politics get out of their own way. I'm looking at you Mr. Pacers announcer.
 
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