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Hoosier Hysterics Podcast

I understand. The players will get fat and happy just like pros who sign big contracts and then mail it in. You need good leadership to make sure that complacency doesn't set in.
Common misconception, imo. The NBA has gotten so much better skill-wise. Seems like everyone can knock down the 3, passing and offense is sharp and they defend pretty hard for an 82 game schedule. Does it happen, yes. But I think the overall play in the NBA is light years better than it was in the 80s and 90s. Missing the stars of that era, but the everyday player and play, is much better than it was then to me. Do you watch the NBA now?
 
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I understand. The players will get fat and happy just like pros who sign big contracts and then mail it in. You need good leadership to make sure that complacency doesn't set in.
99% of NBA players, no matter their salary, are making generational money x100, yet the majority of them are excellent players, motivated to play hard, win and excel. Frankly, that's true of all 3 major sports.
 
Common misconception, imo. The NBA has gotten so much better skill-wise. Seems like everyone can knock down the 3, passing and offense is sharp and they defend pretty hard for an 82 game schedule. Does it happen, yes. But I think the overall play in the NBA is light years better than it was in the 80s and 90s. Missing the stars of that era, but the everyday player and play, is much better than it was then to me. Do you watch the NBA now?
Yes. I wasn't grouping everyone into that scenario, I'm simply saying that giving kids more money than they know what to do with can have negative consequences.

We both know it happens, the job of the staff is to make sure that it doesn't.
 
lol, thx for the laugh


I would love to hear fife & matta's version of things
Fife’s version is not what was leaked. Woodson should be thankful Fife is loyal in spite of the treatment he got from Woodson. Woodson is simply a prick that can’t coach and don’t want anyone around that might get credit over him.
 
It's the NIL era man. If you want to restrict what our players earn because they have 'too much money in a college town', then good luck competing in the NIL space. Might try yelling at some clouds while you're at it.
I don’t care how many millions donors give to be paid to players. I do want a coach that can coach them. Woodson can’t do that.
 
Fife’s version is not what was leaked. Woodson should be thankful Fife is loyal in spite of the treatment he got from Woodson. Woodson is simply a prick that can’t coach and don’t want anyone around that might get credit over him.
we just have to accept that barring some earth shattering misbehavior, we will again underachieve this season

and hope that the powers to be (Scott Dolson this time) do their job and find the right hire
 
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we just have to accept that barring some earth shattering misbehavior, we will again underachieve this season

and hope that the powers to be (Scott Dolson this time) do their job and find the right hire
Exactly
 
99% of NBA players, no matter their salary, are making generational money x100, yet the majority of them are excellent players, motivated to play hard, win and excel. Frankly, that's true of all 3 major sports.
If a pro player does not produce in the way the team thinks meaningful, he can be cut, traded and replaced on the spot. What options do colleges have? Pro players also have "winning" monetary motivators as well.
 
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I understand. The players will get fat and happy just like pros who sign big contracts and then mail it in. You need good leadership to make sure that complacency doesn't set in.
If a pro player does not produce in the way the team thinks meaningful, he can be cut, traded and replaced on the spot. What options do colleges have? Pro players also have "winning" monetary motivators as well.

I suspect both of you are just projecting your own character flaws on a large group of people you have never met.
 
If he did, it’s not like Scott would be replaced with a wrecking ball. In fact, it would probably be the opposite.

We would likely be much worse off without Scott. He’s probably trying to work through the politics on the bball side right now.
I don’t believe for a minute that Woody was really ever on Dolson’s list for coaching candidates. He had his guys lined up. When Stevens said “no”, the powers that be stepped in to manufacture some bogus failed physical on Matta so they could get Woody in. I get that there were certain factions that demanded an IU guy but if you were going to pursue a former player or assistant, Woody would be so far down the list. The guy spent no time in the coaching ranks in the college game. Zero. Nothing but a favor to a friend.
 
Call me out of the loop, but I had never listened to the Hoosier Hysterics Podcast before today. However some of the people on X that I follow discussed it and I gave it a listen. It was a pretty damning account of the Woodson era and anyone that loves IU should be a bit sick over the entire process from his hire, to the way he treats the people around him. Just seems completely unacceptable and the podcast seemed to come to the conclusion that the only way Dolson gets to actually do his job, is if public outcry gets loud enough.
Yeah if that stuff was the truth, and I honestly have no reason to believe it isn’t because Evans obviously knows people in the program. I can see why Woodson missed on a bunch of recruits. First time meeting the biggest target on your list in an in state Flory Bidunga and you don’t know his name. After not even trying to meet his coach and have a relationship with the guy who has access to every great Indiana HS recruit on the AAU team? Ridiculous.
 
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From an outsiders perspective Indiana has the talent to be good but Rice has to preform. I think the Nail, slot, rim defense isn’t working and isn’t a good strategy at all. Woodson is what he is and he doesn’t even consider a change. He will run 2 bigs and clog the lane no matter what. I’d like to see what this team could do with a coach even like Pat Kelsey. If they played with half the movement and energy of UofL they could be good. I don’t know how much this podcast is true, but I did listen to it. I’d have to think Evans knows people inside still. It makes perfect sense why he keeps striking out on HS targets.
 
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I wonder if there will be a revision to the "Bill of Rights" for IU athletes, at least for the ones who are making six figures a year.
Doubtful unless it’s a collective huge conference agreement because any school that did that would be out of the running for prospects if if happened a lot. Why go anywhere you can be cut when other options exist where you can’t?
 
Uh that’s why I said rumors…. I don’t see why that would surprise anyone though.
Hey Zeke - sorry to threadjack here, but did you happen to go to the Maine/IU Women's game this past Sunday? Our Hoops4ALS group was there...sorry if I missed you!
 
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He will run 2 bigs and clog the lane no matter what
People keep saying that. I wish they would actually watch the sets ..

Generally only one big on the block. Ya, know since the most common sets we run this year are high low .... meaning one big high ie not in the lane, the other big low ... or five out high post, which means the big is not in the lane but in the high post with everyone else outside. So how are two bigs clogging the lane?

This doesn't mean the other big doesn't enter the area after an action or shot .. ya know to rebound or as a cut to open space. Plus we also run with Mack at 4 for appx 15 per game and he's certainly not clogging the lane..

We haven't had two bigs actually clog the lane since Race left. What is happening though, at times, is the defense clogs the lane by doubling the single post or by cheating to the lane to stop entry passes and penetration.... hitting threes will stop that.
 
People keep saying that. I wish they would actually watch the sets ..

Generally only one big on the block. Ya, know since the most common sets we run this year are high low .... meaning one big high ie not in the lane, the other big low ... or five out high post, which means the big is not in the lane but in the high post with everyone else outside. So how are two bigs clogging the lane?

This doesn't mean the other big doesn't enter the area after an action or shot .. ya know to rebound or as a cut to open space. Plus we also run with Mack at 4 for appx 15 per game and he's certainly not clogging the lane..

We haven't had two bigs actually clog the lane since Race left. What is happening though, at times, is the defense clogs the lane by doubling the single post or by cheating to the lane to stop entry passes and penetration.... hitting threes will stop that.
UK fan....
 
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Common misconception, imo. The NBA has gotten so much better skill-wise. Seems like everyone can knock down the 3, passing and offense is sharp and they defend pretty hard for an 82 game schedule. Does it happen, yes. But I think the overall play in the NBA is light years better than it was in the 80s and 90s. Missing the stars of that era, but the everyday player and play, is much better than it was then to me. Do you watch the NBA now?
Why are guards more important in college basketball? (And they are 😀)

Simple. In college hoops, the guards are often not just the best ballhandlers on a team but may well be the only decent ballhandlers. But in the NBA, the big guys usually are excellent ballhandlers, too.

I'm guessing it has to do with limitations of hours per week that a college big is permitted to practice ballhandling (and everything else).

And those European bigs are often already good ballhandlers without the extended NBA practice times.
 
So Todd Leary got banned anybody have inside info I guess him and Brian Evans are banned from the team or Indiana? Maybe if they had a good coach and a good team this wouldn't happen talk about Woodson being such a punk.

 
I listened to the podcast as somewhere in this thread someone mentioned Ferguson and/or Cook...

Without respect to details...point counter point, etc.

I spent a few years with the Cook Group...and this entire 'story'...that which was told on the podcast...the 'nepotism,' etc.

All of this sounds like a trip through the Cook Group Management Manual.
 
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