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"This is Trump's America now."

Exactly. So so many issues that are looked at in racial terms could be and most likely are in actuality reflective of socio-economic differences. College admissions are another easy one: base your "affirmative action" policies on economic background, not race. That benefits poor white trash and poor urban blacks the same.
Yup. Admissions. Workers. So much
 
Sickle cell aside, disparities between races usually parallel disparities in income. If you concentrate on the latter, you will get better buy in and less pushback. Don't talk about blacks having poorer health outcomes, talk about the poor having poorer health outcomes.
I agree with that. I mistakenly thought you agreed that there was never a reason to use race.
 
I agree with that. I mistakenly thought you agreed that there was never a reason to use race.

No, of course there are certain situations that are truly race involved. My point is simply that too often we look at the racial differences when the actual problem isn't race, it's economics. People who play the reverse discrimination card would have difficulty objecting to policies that benefit poor whites and poor black alike.
 
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As OS noted below, it evolved in populations where malaria was present.

Being “black” has nothing to do with. Now go measure some skulls.
Yeah, no shit. See my post where I talk about their ancestor's origins.

It's inherited and is primarily tied to people of a particular racial ancestry based on their ancestor's general origin.
Somebody needs to measure the volume of your skull occupied by only air.
 
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...it evolved in populations where malaria was prevalent.

Being “black” has nothing to do with.

Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.
 
Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

Except it’s not being black that’s the risk factor, rather being from or having ancestry from Africa.

The melanin content in one’s skin has nothing to do with sickle cell.

Pretty poor science, even for you.
 
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Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

Except it’s not being black that’s the risk factor, rather being from or having ancestry from Africa.

The melanin content in one’s skin has nothing to do with sickle cell.

Pretty poor science, even for you.

India has the second highest population affected by sickle cell.

I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.
 
Sickle cell aside, disparities between races usually parallel disparities in income. If you concentrate on the latter, you will get better buy in and less pushback. Don't talk about blacks having poorer health outcomes, talk about the poor having poorer health outcomes.
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Exactly. So so many issues that are looked at in racial terms could be and most likely are in actuality reflective of socio-economic differences. College admissions are another easy one: base your "affirmative action" policies on economic background, not race. That benefits poor white trash and poor urban blacks the same.
I've heard people called racist for expressing these thoughts where I live.
 
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I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.
The range of the mosquito has expanded from central Africa. You can Duke it out as the weather that's due to climate change or just to invasive species transit. Historically, sickle cell disease is endemic to Africa. The likelihood of being a carrier remains, statistically, about 13 times higher for persons of central African descent as compared to all other persons of all other origins, combined. Does it affect others? Sure. I linked the studies earlier.
 
The range of the mosquito has expanded from central Africa. You can Duke it out as the weather that's due to climate change or just to invasive species transit. Historically, sickle cell disease is endemic to Africa. The likelihood of being a carrier remains, statistically, about 13 times higher for persons of central African descent as compared to all other persons of all other origins, combined. Does it affect others? Sure. I linked the studies earlier.

Sickle cell gene in India​

First described in the Nilgiri Hills of northern Tamil Nadu in 1952 19, the sickle cell gene is now known to be widespread among people of the Deccan plateau of central India with a smaller focus in the north of Kerala and Tamil Nadu20. Extensive studies performed by the Anthropological Survey of India21 have documented the distribution and frequency of the sickle cell trait which reaches levels as high as 35 per cent in some communities.


You said the only population was in Central Africa and that just isn't true.
Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.
 
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Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this alternate genetic background for <1% of the cases in the USA.
 
Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this alternate genetic background for <1% of the cases in the USA.
Any time. You'll going to learn a lot now that you no longer have me on ignore.

And the premise was that race should play a part in research, not how many people in the US could carry the Sickle Cell gene by race.
 
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Wait...

So are Red, Southern states "net takers" in federal funds because of a bunch of the rich, "Jim Bob SEC boosters", in their few cities; or because the high concentration of country folk?
 
Wait...

So are Red, Southern states "net takers" in federal funds because of a bunch of the rich, "Jim Bob SEC boosters", in their few cities; or because the high concentration of country folk?
Are military bases in or out of the calculations? That's another question I'm curious about.
 
Are military bases in or out of the calculations? That's another question I'm curious about.
With his tit for tat going on and the Agent Orange’s vendetta campaign, i’m wondering if the next time Democrats take control if they could just move military bases right on out of the red states into the blue states. Boom for their economy.
 
With his tit for tat going on and the Agent Orange’s vendetta campaign, i’m wondering if the next time Democrats take control if they could just move military bases right on out of the red states into the blue states. Boom for their economy.
What's the agent orange vendetta and how do you just pick up a base like Ft Hood or Eglin AFB and move them to another state?
 
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What's the agent orange vendetta and how do you just pick up a base like Ft Hood or Eglin AFB and move them to another state?
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. He’s threatening to withdraw US troops from Europe. How do you just pick up and leave? Where do they go?

I’m not advocating for this. Just performing a sort of reductio ad absurdum on Agent Orange’s manic frenzy. He setting new precedents for Executive action, behavior and control. The question becomes, what happens if a Democratic president goes on a similar manic frenzy?
 
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. He’s threatening to withdraw US troops out of Europe. How do you just pick up and leave? Ehere do they go?

I’m not advocating for this. Just performing a sort of reductio ad absurdum on Agent Orange’s manic frenzy. He setting new precedents for Executive action, behavior and control. The question becomes, what happens if a Democratic president goes on a similar manic frenzy?
Pretty sure he's talking about redeployment of troops, not moving an entire base.

Your agent orange talk is still lost on me. I thought it was related to Vietnam Era Agent Orange claims.
 
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