"This is Trump's America now."

[mcmurtry66]

Exactly. So so many issues that are looked at in racial terms could be and most likely are in actuality reflective of socio-economic differences. College admissions are another easy one: base your "affirmative action" policies on economic background, not race. That benefits poor white trash and poor urban blacks the same.

Yup. Admissions. Workers. So much

 

[hookyIU1990]

Sickle cell aside, disparities between races usually parallel disparities in income. If you concentrate on the latter, you will get better buy in and less pushback. Don't talk about blacks having poorer health outcomes, talk about the poor having poorer health outcomes.

I agree with that. I mistakenly thought you agreed that there was never a reason to use race.

 

[UncleMark]

I agree with that. I mistakenly thought you agreed that there was never a reason to use race.

No, of course there are certain situations that are truly race involved. My point is simply that too often we look at the racial differences when the actual problem isn't race, it's economics. People who play the reverse discrimination card would have difficulty objecting to policies that benefit poor whites and poor black alike.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Enlighten me; this should be instructive AF.

As OS noted below, it evolved in populations where malaria was prevalent.

Being “black” has nothing to do with. Now go measure some skulls.

 

[hookyIU1990]

As OS noted below, it evolved in populations where malaria was present.

Being “black” has nothing to do with. Now go measure some skulls.

Yeah, no shit. See my post where I talk about their ancestor's origins.

It's inherited and is primarily tied to people of a particular racial ancestry based on their ancestor's general origin.

Somebody needs to measure the volume of your skull occupied by only air.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Yeah, no shit. See my post where I talk about their ancestor's origins.


Somebody needs to measure the volume of your skull occupied by only air.

You were getting closer, but I wanted to take you through the logical exercise to its conclusion.

 

[hookyIU1990]

You were getting closer, but I wanted to take you through the logical exercise to its conclusion.

When's your mom going to have dinner ready for you?

 

[Spartans9312]

 

[hookyIU1990]

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[outside shooter]

...it evolved in populations where malaria was prevalent.

Being “black” has nothing to do with.

Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

Except it’s not being black that’s the risk factor, rather being from or having ancestry from Africa.

The melanin content in one’s skin has nothing to do with sickle cell.

Pretty poor science, even for you.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

Except it’s not being black that’s the risk factor, rather being from or having ancestry from Africa.

The melanin content in one’s skin has nothing to do with sickle cell.

Pretty poor science, even for you.

India has the second highest population affected by sickle cell.

I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

India has the second highest population affected by sickle cell.

I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.

Don’t put words in my mouth Franz.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Don’t put words in my mouth Franz.

Like you did mine?

I hope it's meatloaf tonight. I know how much you enjoy your mom's meatloaf.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Like you did mine?

I hope it's meatloaf tonight. I know how much you enjoy your mom's meatloaf.

You may insinuate that I live with my mother or something like that, but you are the one behaving like a child.

 

[hookyIU1990]

You may insinuate that I live with my mother or something like that, but you are the one behaving like a child.

I'm not insinuating anything. I think you live in your mom's basement.

 

[BradStevens]

Sickle cell aside, disparities between races usually parallel disparities in income. If you concentrate on the latter, you will get better buy in and less pushback. Don't talk about blacks having poorer health outcomes, talk about the poor having poorer health outcomes.

 

[BradStevens]

Exactly. So so many issues that are looked at in racial terms could be and most likely are in actuality reflective of socio-economic differences. College admissions are another easy one: base your "affirmative action" policies on economic background, not race. That benefits poor white trash and poor urban blacks the same.

I've heard people called racist for expressing these thoughts where I live.

 

[outside shooter]

I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.

The range of the mosquito has expanded from central Africa. You can Duke it out as the weather that's due to climate change or just to invasive species transit. Historically, sickle cell disease is endemic to Africa. The likelihood of being a carrier remains, statistically, about 13 times higher for persons of central African descent as compared to all other persons of all other origins, combined. Does it affect others? Sure. I linked the studies earlier.

 

[hookyIU1990]

The range of the mosquito has expanded from central Africa. You can Duke it out as the weather that's due to climate change or just to invasive species transit. Historically, sickle cell disease is endemic to Africa. The likelihood of being a carrier remains, statistically, about 13 times higher for persons of central African descent as compared to all other persons of all other origins, combined. Does it affect others? Sure. I linked the studies earlier.

Sickle cell gene in India​

First described in the Nilgiri Hills of northern Tamil Nadu in 1952 19, the sickle cell gene is now known to be widespread among people of the Deccan plateau of central India with a smaller focus in the north of Kerala and Tamil Nadu20. Extensive studies performed by the Anthropological Survey of India21 have documented the distribution and frequency of the sickle cell trait which reaches levels as high as 35 per cent in some communities.

Sickle cell disease in India: A perspective - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You said the only population was in Central Africa and that just isn't true.

Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.

 

[outside shooter]

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this alternate genetic background for <1% of the cases in the USA.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this alternate genetic background for <1% of the cases in the USA.

Any time. You'll going to learn a lot now that you no longer have me on ignore.

And the premise was that race should play a part in research, not how many people in the US could carry the Sickle Cell gene by race.