"This is Trump's America now."
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I agree with that. I mistakenly thought you agreed that there was never a reason to use race.
No, of course there are certain situations that are truly race involved. My point is simply that too often we look at the racial differences when the actual problem isn't race, it's economics. People who play the reverse discrimination card would have difficulty objecting to policies that benefit poor whites and poor black alike.
As OS noted below, it evolved in populations where malaria was prevalent.
Being “black” has nothing to do with. Now go measure some skulls.
Yeah, no shit. See my post where I talk about their ancestor's origins.
Somebody needs to measure the volume of your skull occupied by only air.
You were getting closer, but I wanted to take you through the logical exercise to its conclusion.
When's your mom going to have dinner ready for you?
Malaria is carried by one type of mosquito, one that is endemic to central Africa, so that's the only population with a selective pressure for sickle cell, and it's an overwhelmingly black population. So... Being black is the largest risk factor, BY FAR. Denying that is like saying that dying of COVID had nothing to do with being elderly. Stupid, even for you.
Except it’s not being black that’s the risk factor, rather being from or having ancestry from Africa.
The melanin content in one’s skin has nothing to do with sickle cell.
Pretty poor science, even for you.
India has the second highest population affected by sickle cell.
I'll leave it to you to duke it out about Africa being the only place it originates.
Like you did mine?
I hope it's meatloaf tonight. I know how much you enjoy your mom's meatloaf.
You may insinuate that I live with my mother or something like that, but you are the one behaving like a child.
I'm not insinuating anything. I think you live in your mom's basement.
I've heard people called racist for expressing these thoughts where I live.
The range of the mosquito has expanded from central Africa. You can Duke it out as the weather that's due to climate change or just to invasive species transit. Historically, sickle cell disease is endemic to Africa. The likelihood of being a carrier remains, statistically, about 13 times higher for persons of central African descent as compared to all other persons of all other origins, combined. Does it affect others? Sure. I linked the studies earlier.
Sickle cell gene in India
First described in the Nilgiri Hills of northern Tamil Nadu in 1952 19, the sickle cell gene is now known to be widespread among people of the Deccan plateau of central India with a smaller focus in the north of Kerala and Tamil Nadu20. Extensive studies performed by the Anthropological Survey of India21 have documented the distribution and frequency of the sickle cell trait which reaches levels as high as 35 per cent in some communities.Sickle cell disease in India: A perspective - PMC
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
You said the only population was in Central Africa and that just isn't true.
Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this alternate genetic background for <1% of the cases in the USA.
Any time. You'll going to learn a lot now that you no longer have me on ignore.
And the premise was that race should play a part in research, not how many people in the US could carry the Sickle Cell gene by race.
Wait...
So are Red, Southern states "net takers" in federal funds because of a bunch of the rich, "Jim Bob SEC boosters", in their few cities; or because the high concentration of country folk?
So are Red, Southern states "net takers" in federal funds because of a bunch of the rich, "Jim Bob SEC boosters", in their few cities; or because the high concentration of country folk?
Are military bases in or out of the calculations? That's another question I'm curious about.
With his tit for tat going on and the Agent Orange’s vendetta campaign, i’m wondering if the next time Democrats take control if they could just move military bases right on out of the red states into the blue states. Boom for their economy.
What's the agent orange vendetta and how do you just pick up a base like Ft Hood or Eglin AFB and move them to another state?
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. He’s threatening to withdraw US troops from Europe. How do you just pick up and leave? Where do they go?
I’m not advocating for this. Just performing a sort of reductio ad absurdum on Agent Orange’s manic frenzy. He setting new precedents for Executive action, behavior and control. The question becomes, what happens if a Democratic president goes on a similar manic frenzy?
Pretty sure he's talking about redeployment of troops, not moving an entire base.
Your agent orange talk is still lost on me. I thought it was related to Vietnam Era Agent Orange claims.
I like both Ego Man and Agent Orange, the latter especially because he’s so toxic.
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Speaking of Easter... everyone know what day it falls on this year?
I can't believe they haven't tried moving it yet. 🤣
I believe it falls on a Sunday again this year.
I wonder how many adults will be getting the devils lettuce in their Easter basket.
Hope the adult gummie eggs don't accidentally find their way into kids' baskets.
Pretty deep question, Brad!
Modern scientists postulate humans as strictly physical bodies.* As such, genetically and physically, there are clearly “races.” Puts scientists in a sticky wicket when trying to explain what a “social construct” actually is, so they just ignore such paradoxes.
My answer to your question is, yes, because all people are most fundamentally human beings. Sociocultural constructs, such as race are secondary.
So Mark’s point as I understand it holds.
As a side note, the above scientific paradox also yields an understanding of why people believe they’re not racist and yet exhibit certain attitudes with hints of racism. People know they are human beings, but science teaches them they’re bodies. 😳🧐
* (Kind of harkens back to the days of the stimulus-response behavioral psychology of the 1940s, doesn’t it? Cognitive psychology blew that out of tge water.)
