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These are not political prisoners

Felony assault in a police officer. For a first time offender in DC, pretty much unheard of to get more than three years.

Ergo. In a fair and impartial justice system, pretty much all of these 1/6er’s should have been out already.
 
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Sure, Mark can be a bit cheeky...

But I also think it's easy to diagnose hypocrisy, and it doesn't get much easier than with VPM
Van has no bigger critic here than me. But calling someone out for hypocrisy and labeling religious beliefs/faith/conviction as “fantasy” are two very different things.
 
Pastor. As a man of the cloth I would like your opinion on something in which you are a subject matter expert.

What are your thoughts on the below sermon?



Episcopalians amiright?

Regarding illegal immigrants being frightened...

They broke our laws. Isn't it kind of to be expected that somebody would be frightened if they broke the law (whatever law) and risked getting caught?

I get that she's making some kind of emotional appeal. But I try to put myself in the other guy's shoes. If I went to a foreign country and deliberately violated their immigration laws, I'm pretty sure I'd always be looking over my shoulder.

And the blame for my fear belongs on....their government?
 
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But see...that's the problem. Your last sentence there "It's easy to believe Rudy was up to no good."

These were intelligence professionals. They knew very well what that letter would mean -- to the media, to official Washington, and perhaps even to the American people themselves. The only reason they signed it is *because* they were intelligence professionals. It was to discredit the laptop, right? Who else is in a position to do that, other than members of our intelligence community?

This is why I'm saying that people have a hard time reckoning what happened because of the personalities involved. But that's a very irresponsible and short-sighted way to look at this. "Oh, well, it was easy to believe because Rudy Giuliani was involved. And besides, they were working against Trump."

No. That is not how professional people are supposed to operate. They are supposed to make assessments based on facts. And they obviously didn't have the facts to do it, because what they said was flat wrong. Even CBS was able to hire a couple forensic guys to go through it and confirm its authenticity. So a news network is capable of figuring out that it's authentic....but our top intelligence pros aren't?

And you can say "Well, they didn't have access to it." Which is certainly true. But the FBI did. They'd had it for nearly a year. And the DNI made it known publicly that they were off base, too.

What they did was simply indefensible. And I honestly think it would be easier for everybody to see if it involved somebody other than Donald Trump.
I don’t know what these people knew or didn’t know. I agree that this was politically orchestrated.

But they could be wrong but still have had facts to make them think it might have been a Russian disinformation campaign. Intelligence assessments by their very nature are probabilistic, like weather predictions or the like.

In general, though, I agree that too many intelligence/foreign policy “experts” aren’t held to account for their mistaken predictions or assessments. The Iraq invasion is the prime example of my lifetime.
 
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I don’t know what these people knew or didn’t know. I agree that this was politically orchestrated.

But they could be wrong but still have had facts to make them think it might have been a Russian disinformation campaign. Intelligence assessments by their very nature are probabilistic, like weather predictions or the like.

In general, though, I agree that too many intelligence/foreign policy “experts” aren’t held to account for their mistaken predictions or assessments. The Iraq invasion is the prime example of my lifetime.

I'd be interested to know what facts they'd have had to make them think it.

Keep in mind that this letter and its signatories were put together hastily. Emails regarding it have been released and the letter came out pretty shortly after news of the laptop broke. Mike Morrel is the one who put it together and reached out to the others.

On top of that, are you aware of any of them issuing a mea culpa since we've learned more about this? I think Occam tells us all that we need to know about what this was. And I just find it so telling that the people who would normally be making a lot of noise about election interference, or about misinformation/disinformation, about tearing down the trust of our institutions, etc...

...are just deafeningly quiet about this whole ordeal.

And why? Because it was done to help Biden (and thus thwart Trump) -- which makes it all OK.
 
Pastor. As a man of the cloth I would like your opinion on something in which you are a subject matter expert.

What are your thoughts on the below sermon?



Episcopalians amiright?
God has already spoken about homosexuality and there being two genders
The issue of illegals is about law. Every undocumented peoples are law breakers so they are criminals. What taxes are they paying if they are being paid under the table? Every employer who does this is also a criminal bad message from her from a biblical point of view.
 
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