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There needs to be a change

I have two degrees from IU. 40+ year season ticket holder and donor.

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The Indiana job might be of interest to Fred Hoiberg. He’d turn things around year one.
I’m being serious about Fred Hoiberg. Google his name and read article from Des Moines Register. I think Indiana would be one of the jobs he’d consider (not that I’d be happy being a Hawkeye fan)!
 
Please don't take this the wrong way. At one time you were in the same class as KY and UNC. You're not anymore. The powers that be won't let you. Too many things in place. If money is the priority over winning and giving players the student bill of rights whatever the hell that entails, then returning to your glory days isn't going to happen.
Your team played hard against Iowa and should have won. Have you seen that all season? I've watched most of your games. Outside shooting is lacking but there's a load of talent there. Either this squad had the most 4 and 5 star players in the BIG or close. Don't know if it's a chemistry issue or coaching or both but something happened to this team. I'd guess Archie has a couple more season to turn it around. There's talent here and more coming in so I guess next season we will see if it's coaching. There's no way in hell this team should have a losing record though.
Exactly This. The CTC haters simply can not accept this reality.
 
I live in Dayton and like basketball so I watched a lot of his games at UD on TV and in the arena. The teams always played hard and usually overachieved. He's a good coach and I think he's going to get it done at IU too. There's no denying that the team really played hard the in these two recent losses and very well could have won both. It's obvious the team hasn't given up and I'm not giving up either. I do think there must have been some chemistry issues that lasted for too long, but it looks like he's addressed those because I don't see them now.
Good point. It does seem there were issues intra-team - how did that gritty team that passioned out victories turn into the one that folded at the first punch in the mouth? I don’t think Archie coached them to be as soft as a baby’s behind.
 
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Playing hard and winning are two different things and we used to do both. The 11 teams we've lost to in the last two months played hard...they won. This team seems complacent at best. Get a small lead and hope it doesn't get squandered....make stupid turnovers or ill-advised shots with the opportunity to go up by 6, 8, 10...make a critical free throw.

This product on the floor may also have chemistry issues but you've got to be kidding if you don't point to talent and coaching. 12th in the B10 in free throws? Guards shooting under 70%? Last possession opportunities where we look as prepared as a playground pick-up game.

I also would have liked to see Archie stop the game, pick up the mic and tell the crowd that if that chant against Haarms doesn't stop immediately, they can all leave and they'll finish the game without an audience. While I'm no longer a fan of BK, there were some things he insisted upon that differentiated IU on and off the court.

We're ranked 41st in recruiting for next year. How will it get better? Holtmann is 38-15 at OSU. Miller is 29-29. Hired at the same time. We're supposed to be the basketball school...
This is a long term rebuilt. We are just getting startwd baby.
 
Because you know nothing of the sort. It remains insanely stupid to want to fire him now. You got that going for you.

No, it wouldn’t be insanely stupid to fire him. You better have someone and money lined up if you were going to do it. With that said he should get another year with very clear and high expectations . Now, I do think It is insane to think he is still the guy.
 
Dipshit, this IU fan has been a fan since the early 70s as a kid. I was attending IU when IU won the '81 championship. I want a return to those kinds of teams and I like Archie Miller and I think he's going to get that done. Even if I didn't, firing him after this season would still be insanely stupid. If you think that's a good idea than you're an insanely stupid dipshit.

Can you give us a single piece of evidence this season that tells you with a very high degree of confidence that “he’s going to get this done?”

You like Miller.
Okay. Fine. But this is about evidence on the court, not personalities. What is it that tells you that Archie is going to get it done, other than hopes, dreams and perhaps a handful of magic beads?
 
Any coach that comes here is nothing more than a sideways move..
The real mover's & shakers aren't coming here..
Archie gets at lest two more year's..
All post about it. Is just wasted time.
I'll bet no matter how bad and young everyone say's we'll be..
No way ...Well it be a repeat of this year..
Five losses in this stretch have been perfect storms for the opponents..
 
Can you give us a single piece of evidence this season that tells you with a very high degree of confidence that “he’s going to get this done?”

You like Miller.
Okay. Fine. But this is about evidence on the court, not personalities. What is it that tells you that Archie is going to get it done, other than hopes, dreams and perhaps a handful of magic beads?
His track record. Dumb question.
 
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Its a IU basketball message board, you a-hole, not a stick your head in the sand, CAM love site. Things are bad, we want change. Obviously, if you don't, you don't know what IU basketball used to mean to fans and why losing two in a row is absolutely unacceptable, much less 12 of 13. No coach in this country, at any f'n level can claim that losing 12 of 13 is doing their job, much less with the talent we have. Arch needs to go, and I was not grumpy with his hire, but reality is reality. Next year will be worse, why prolong the suffering.


You're a world class idiot.
 
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What is it that tells you that Archie is going to get it done, other than hopes, dreams and perhaps a handful of magic beads?

yes, hopes...dreams...and 6 years at Dayton and an okay first year at IU. lol. that's all.

again, IU sucks right now but you don't know why. you just know that tears come easy. go ahead...let it all out. lolol
 
12-2 with wins over Marquette and UL to "oh this is a rebuilding job." Give me a break. Jughead was a bad hire! Something seriously wrong in the locker room and Jughead is in charge of fixing that - which he hasn't!
 
12-2 with wins over Marquette and UL to "oh this is a rebuilding job." Give me a break. Jughead was a bad hire! Something seriously wrong in the locker room and Jughead is in charge of fixing that - which he hasn't!
Major rebuild!!! Bring on chris beard.
 
Playing hard and winning are two different things and we used to do both. The 11 teams we've lost to in the last two months played hard...they won. This team seems complacent at best. Get a small lead and hope it doesn't get squandered....make stupid turnovers or ill-advised shots with the opportunity to go up by 6, 8, 10...make a critical free throw.

This product on the floor may also have chemistry issues but you've got to be kidding if you don't point to talent and coaching. 12th in the B10 in free throws? Guards shooting under 70%? Last possession opportunities where we look as prepared as a playground pick-up game.

I also would have liked to see Archie stop the game, pick up the mic and tell the crowd that if that chant against Haarms doesn't stop immediately, they can all leave and they'll finish the game without an audience. While I'm no longer a fan of BK, there were some things he insisted upon that differentiated IU on and off the court.

We're ranked 41st in recruiting for next year. How will it get better? Holtmann is 38-15 at OSU. Miller is 29-29. Hired at the same time. We're supposed to be the basketball school...

Do you realize that it is now against the rules for the coach to "pick uo the mic"?
 
Remember when you guaranteed...

No losses at home
Top 10 by January
Big Ten champs
Etc etc?

Now that you’ve been proven dead wrong AGAIN you’re calling people lil Bs? Grow up kiddo

When are you going to give this crap up?
TMP guaranteed NOTHING?

I have said this before but once again, link where TMP said guarantee or STFU.
 
When are you going to give this crap up?
TMP guaranteed NOTHING?

I have said this before but once again, link where TMP said guarantee or STFU.
Remember when you guaranteed us this year that Archie is better than Mack and Holtmann? How’s that working out?
 
Remember when you guaranteed us this year that Archie is better than Mack and Holtmann? How’s that working out?

Link my guarantee or STFU. Pretty simple.

I will tell you what, link my guarantee and I will leave this forum FOREVER. Don't link it and you leave FOREVER.

Deal? Put up or shut up big man.
 
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Yes I agree as it stands right now year three looks bleak but if we get some shooters and maybe replace a coach or two on the staff things might get a lot better.
 
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