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The demand for racism far exceeds the supply.

Regarding the affects of anti-racist policy, I have a lot of skin in the game--my kids' education and the tens-of-thousands of dollars I spend in property taxes for a school that used to have honors courses and now does not and the parochial school I now might have to send my kids to so they can get the educational opportunities I never had.

So if we are going to advance ad hominem attacks and operate under an assumption that only people directly affected by certain polices are allowed to comment, maybe those without school-aged children need to silence themselves regarding school policies and accept the viewpoints of those of us with children in schools that are instituting these policies, since these others have no "skin in the game" ? *

*I don't believe that to be true, but based on your reasoning, it would apply.
Well, everything does not equal everything, and you know that.
That being said, sending your kids to parochial school is not a silver bullet. There's a reason the per pupil expenditure is so low, so if your kid has an IEP, good luck with all that, from what I hear.

And not to get too anecdotal, but a long time ago, I heard a story from a high school football coach at a public school about a football player at the neighboring Catholic school who was "expelled" the second semester of his senior year, and ended up at the public school. Pretty convenient timing. The offense wasn't that bad, but, they had used him for his talent for 3.5 years, and only then decided to lower the hammer.
I realize this story is low on relevance to the topic, but I always found it interesting.
 
I have been a big proponent of SEL on this board. I want elementary school children taught emotional regulation skills, etc. I don't want them taught about Whiteness and "equity."
I probably don't either, but there those who bristle at the term "SEL", and immediately start talking about that slippery slope and lost academic time.
At that point, the discussion is over.
 
I probably don't either, but there those who bristle at the term "SEL", and immediately start talking about that slippery slope and lost academic time.
At that point, the discussion is over.
You have to define what it is SEL means. I think people bristle at it now because it was used as an umbrella to get in some of the other stuff Brad is discussing.

It was a real disservice to do that because it broke trust between parents and teachers and in some instances the teachers were not always on board with what they were told to do.
 
Well, everything does not equal everything, and you know that.
That being said, sending your kids to parochial school is not a silver bullet. There's a reason the per pupil expenditure is so low, so if your kid has an IEP, good luck with all that, from what I hear.

And not to get too anecdotal, but a long time ago, I heard a story from a high school football coach at a public school about a football player at the neighboring Catholic school who was "expelled" the second semester of his senior year, and ended up at the public school. Pretty convenient timing. The offense wasn't that bad, but, they had used him for his talent for 3.5 years, and only then decided to lower the hammer.
I realize this story is low on relevance to the topic, but I always found it interesting.
Not to hijack the thread but it's strange to me that these catholic and wealthy high schools aggressively recruit athletes. what's the point? increases enrollment?
 
You have to define what it is SEL means. I think people bristle at it now because it was used as an umbrella to get in some of the other stuff Brad is discussing.

It was a real disservice to do that because it broke trust between parents and teachers and in some instances the teachers were not always on board with what they were told to do.
So, people who say one thing, but slyly act in another way, cause distrust, especially when coupled with others who blatantly act out?
Sounds like how an affected person might describe racism.
 
Well, everything does not equal everything, and you know that.
That being said, sending your kids to parochial school is not a silver bullet. There's a reason the per pupil expenditure is so low, so if your kid has an IEP, good luck with all that, from what I hear.

And not to get too anecdotal, but a long time ago, I heard a story from a high school football coach at a public school about a football player at the neighboring Catholic school who was "expelled" the second semester of his senior year, and ended up at the public school. Pretty convenient timing. The offense wasn't that bad, but, they had used him for his talent for 3.5 years, and only then decided to lower the hammer.
I realize this story is low on relevance to the topic, but I always found it interesting.
I have no interest in parochial schools, per se. I'm an atheist (my wife is nominally Catholic). But both kids are high achievers and I want them challenged in a way I never was. This is very personal for me.

Unfortunately, in my community many consider this "hoarding educational opportunities" and racist (because it is not anti-racist). The high school has now eliminated stand-alone honors courses in the name of racial equity, even though they had an open admission policy--anyone who wanted to be in the class could be. But because not enough minorities enrolled in the classes, they were deemed institutional racism.
 
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Not to hijack the thread but it's strange to me that these catholic and wealthy high schools aggressively recruit athletes. what's the point? increases enrollment?
Same thing as colleges--fundraising. People are more likely to donate to their school if they have a great sports experience cheering on the school team.
 
Not to hijack the thread but it's strange to me that these catholic and wealthy high schools aggressively recruit athletes. what's the point? increases enrollment?
I've always wondered that, too. It's not as obvious today, but I can remember a few years ago a certain parochial school having an almost 100% white student body in the stands, cheering on an almost 100% black basketball team. It was noticeable.
 
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I have no interest in parochial schools, per se. I'm an atheist (my wife is nominally Catholic). But both kids are high achievers and I want them challenged in a way I never was. This is very personal for me.

Unfortunately, in my community many consider this "hoarding educational opportunities" and racist (because it is not anti-racist). The high school has now eliminated stand-alone honors courses in the name of racial equity, even though they had an open admission policy--anyone who wanted to be in the class could be. But because not enough minorities enrolled in the classes, they were deemed institutional racism.
This is the point at which, like with Crazy, I humbly bow out.
You need to do what you feel is best for your kids' education, be it public (district or charter), private school, parochial school, or home school. No shade thrown on that decision by me. Unless others are paying to raise your kids, tell them to get bent and go about your business.
(I know that I'm not telling you anything you don't already know...just wanted to go on record.)
 
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I've always wondered that, too. It's not as obvious today, but I can remember a few years ago a certain parochial school having an almost 100% white student body in the stands, cheering on an almost 100% black basketball team. It was noticeable.
Exactly. It's very strange. Like the Hoop Dreams high school where Isiah went
 
he would have been fantastic....athletically anyway. And considering his passion for ballhandling I'm thinking had he grown up in England he would have been amazing.
Imagine Antwan Randle El on the soccer field from birth. Scary
 
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McM and Lars are conspiring to quiet lock all threads by shutting them down with soccer talk. It's depraved and inhuman. Moderators!!

McM and Lars are conspiring to quiet lock all threads by shutting them down with soccer talk. It's depraved and inhuman. Moderators!!
This board is on life support anyway. Mark not publishing his deleting history is the biggest threat to this board since its inception. that stoll has been co-opted is the second largest threat.
 
Your anti-corporate mentality ruins you

i'm not anti corporate.

i'm anti corporate influence in politics, and anti monopoly.

probably worked in the corporate world much longer than most here.

that said, i've also watched things change greatly from the 70s till today, in how they treat both employees and customers.

that said, i am not blind to what a corporation is, and how media is affected when corporate.

most are totally blind to it though. i'm guessing you are blind to it.

while we get both sides on social issues from corp media, we only get one side on economic issues, and will only ever get that one side on economic issues.

just business. it can be no other way.

when media is corporate, it's corporate nature influences all coverage of everything economic in nature.

unlike privately owned media, (most newspapers and many tv/radio stations were once privately owned. virtually none now are), it literally has no ability to not shape it's coverage according to it's own financial interest.

why while currently we have liberal and conservative media in regards to social issues, all corp media is far right on all economic issues.

a corp media platform cannot be pro worker or pro consumer on anything economic in nature that would effect either it or it's revenue sources.

it's corporate nature and ownership model in of itself can never allow that, even if all who are running said media would like otherwise, and wish they could accurately give the left side of economic issues.

you think Rachel and Stephanie and Tucker and Anderson wouldn't love to say things they flat are not allowed to say???

and it's "corporate" nature is now on steroids.

the media corporations now aren't just the media entity itself, but are multinational conglomerates of which the media entity is just a small part.

thus the media entity's coverage isn't just shaped by the best interests of the media entity itself, but all the multinational conglomerate interest of the entity, and of it's advertisers and other revenue sources.

and now major stock holders of said conglomerate entity are not just major holders in said multinational conglomerate entity itself, but also major share holders of big finance/banking, big energy/oil, big pharma, big insurance, etc.

so all financial coverage is now influenced by the best interests of all those other industries as well.

the ownership tree isn't a personal opinion, it's non disputable fact.

if you think the media entity itself, thus it's coverage on things financial in nature, isn't hijacked to serve the best interests of not only the entire conglomerate, but everything else under that multi trillion dollar ownership tree as well, then you have zero understanding of how corps work, how hedge funds work, and have no business commenting on the subject.

when corporate, the media entity becomes the a PR tool of said conglomerate, and it's entire ownership tree, and those of it's major revenue sources.

if not, then management would be seen as a "bad fit", and shown the door.
 
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Could claims of pervasive American racism be a result of the power of suggestion? Some suggest racism because they hold good faith opinions about it, others claim it for personal power and control. Either way, racism might be way overstated. .

Early in 2020, at least in part caused by the campaign, racism had reached critical mass in the public consciousness . Then George Floyd‘s murder triggered a chain reaction that instantly exploded in all corners of the United States. 1619 Project, Kendi, White Fragility, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and enumerable state and federal laws and race regulation, burst on the scene like a monsters surviving an atomic bomb. Of course the worst is in academia where we only wink at clear violations of anti-racist Civil Rights laws because the discrimination is directed at whites.

What if much of this reaction is the product of an illusion?

Watch the whole thing.

 
Could claims of pervasive American racism be a result of the power of suggestion? Some suggest racism because they hold good faith opinions about it, others claim it for personal power and control. Either way, racism might be way overstated. .

Early in 2020, at least in part caused by the campaign, racism had reached critical mass in the public consciousness . Then George Floyd‘s murder triggered a chain reaction that instantly exploded in all corners of the United States. 1619 Project, Kendi, White Fragility, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and enumerable state and federal laws and race regulation, burst on the scene like a monsters surviving an atomic bomb. Of course the worst is in academia where we only wink at clear violations of anti-racist Civil Rights laws because the discrimination is directed at whites.

What if much of this reaction is the product of an illusion?

Watch the whole thing.

Peer pressure and the desire to “fit in” is the second most powerful human force.

No. 1? “I hate who you hate - wanna sleep with me?”

The cult process - ”We are different - we are treated different - we are treated wrongly - we are right - we are better - they are inferior - help me put them in that oven“
 
Here is a great read about our racism fantasies. Read the whole thing.


The question is why do accusations of racism have such traction? Why do we always strain to think the worst when another innocent explanation is readily apparent?

For whatever reason, we are consumed with self-loathing. From the 1619 project to the BYU volleyball court, we are determined to diminish ourselves because of racism. If we can’t find conspicuous racism, we make it up or we fabricate an illusive racist culture and call it “systemic racism”. We smugly put out statements of inclusivity and welcoming which signs are in Lilly white college towns or white expensive vacation spots. We fool ourselves into believing that offices of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” really mean something when all they really mean is another virtue signal. Authors and other wannabe intellectuals make millions by claiming that denial of racism is racist and all whites are racist.

Our racist obsession is not harmless. It sends a horribly destructive message to black youngsters about their future. The concluding point in the link:

But the worst harm is something more basic: it is bad for black Americans to be unreasonably terrified that they’ll be hate-crimed every time they leave the house. It is wrong to instil fear and pessimism and panic for the sake of clicks. And telling people that many of their fellow Americans secretly hate them and wish them harm, when this is not in fact the case, is morally reprehensible.​

Oh, yeah racism really exists. But let’s talk about it in terms of reality, not fantasy. America is not a racist country. Let’s focus on the problem we have, not the problem some would like us to have.

Police investigating social media post threatening to kill Black people at Alabama fair​

Opelika police are investigating a social media post threatening to kill Black people at the Lee County Fair, and are providing extra officers for the event next month as a heightened security measure.

The department said Tuesday it was told about the post on Monday and is attempting to identify and locate the poster who threatened that he and his friends “are coming to [the] Opelika Alabama fair to kill every NEGRO that we lay eye contact on so be prepared. WHITE POWER.”


Opelika police did not share the post or the purported Facebook user’s name as to not “give this individual the attention they are clearly seeking.”


The purported user’s profile included the Confederate battle flag and twice said they were going to attend the Lee County Fair next month from Oct. 4 to Oct. 8.


“Based on the posted threats, OPD will provide additional officers for security to ensure the safety of fair attendees,” police said.

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OPELIKA, Ala. (WTVM) - An 18-year-old has been arrested concerning the threatening social media post regarding the Lee County Fair.

Opelika police have been investigating a “racially inflammatory” post on social media that threatened to shoot a specific demographic of attendees at the fair.

Officials traced the social media account to a Lafayette residence where Pharrell Smith was developed as a suspect. On Oct. 6, Smith was arrested by Lafayette police on charges unrelated to the fair incident.

According to Opelika police, Smith will be extradited to the Lee County Justice Center and arrested on a terrorist threat charge once he is released from Lafayette police custody.

This case remains under investigation.
 
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