The demand for racism far exceeds the supply.

[CO. Hoosier]

Here is a great read about our racism fantasies. Read the whole thing.

The American media's racism fantasy

Stories about slurs are too good to check

unherd.com

The question is why do accusations of racism have such traction? Why do we always strain to think the worst when another innocent explanation is readily apparent?

For whatever reason, we are consumed with self-loathing. From the 1619 project to the BYU volleyball court, we are determined to diminish ourselves because of racism. If we can’t find conspicuous racism, we make it up or we fabricate an illusive racist culture and call it “systemic racism”. We smugly put out statements of inclusivity and welcoming which signs are in Lilly white college towns or white expensive vacation spots. We fool ourselves into believing that offices of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” really mean something when all they really mean is another virtue signal. Authors and other wannabe intellectuals make millions by claiming that denial of racism is racist and all whites are racist.

Our racist obsession is not harmless. It sends a horribly destructive message to black youngsters about their future. The concluding point in the link:

But the worst harm is something more basic: it is bad for black Americans to be unreasonably terrified that they’ll be hate-crimed every time they leave the house. It is wrong to instil fear and pessimism and panic for the sake of clicks. And telling people that many of their fellow Americans secretly hate them and wish them harm, when this is not in fact the case, is morally reprehensible.​

Oh, yeah racism really exists. But let’s talk about it in terms of reality, not fantasy. America is not a racist country. Let’s focus on the problem we have, not the problem some would like us to have.

 

[larsIU]

We don't have what the writer deems a "responsible media class" anymore. At least, not where people get their news**

I used to think it was the fault of the 24 hour cable news cycle. And partly it is. But it's the boom of social media as well. Stories don't have to be true on social media.

But we LOVE this b/c we love the 1A and our slander/libel laws are seemingly non-existent (ot at least not enforced). And the media class....what is that anymore? Journalists are dying off and replaced with talking heads and opinion spewers.

Racism SELLS baby....sweet, sweet dollars in their pockets. The Weather Channel, BBC, and PBS are the most trusted new sources and nobody watches them.

**See the attached link. Look at where people under 45 are getting their news. Social media and YOUTUBE. While many in the older generations are just listening to cable news.

Also, last thing, there is a huge difference between "news" and "opinion" as you know. I would venture to guess 90% of what's on cable news after 5pm is opinion.

Trust in Media 2022: Where Americans get their news and who they trust for information | YouGov

The most politically polarizing media outlet is CNN. Nearly two-thirds of Democrats (66%) rate CNN as trustworthy, compared to 11% of Republicans, a 55-point difference, larger than for any other outlet.

today.yougov.com

 

[bailey777]

Here is a great read about our racism fantasies. Read the whole thing.

The American media's racism fantasy

Stories about slurs are too good to check

unherd.com

The question is why do accusations of racism have such traction? Why do we always strain to think the worst when another innocent explanation is readily apparent?

For whatever reason, we are consumed with self-loathing. From the 1619 project to the BYU volleyball court, we are determined to diminish ourselves because of racism. If we can’t find conspicuous racism, we make it up or we fabricate an illusive racist culture and call it “systemic racism”. We smugly put out statements of inclusivity and welcoming which signs are in Lilly white college towns or white expensive vacation spots. We fool ourselves into believing that offices of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” really mean something when all they really mean is another virtue signal. Authors and other wannabe intellectuals make millions by claiming that denial of racism is racist and all whites are racist.

Our racist obsession is not harmless. It sends a horribly destructive message to black youngsters about their future. The concluding point in the link:

But the worst harm is something more basic: it is bad for black Americans to be unreasonably terrified that they’ll be hate-crimed every time they leave the house. It is wrong to instil fear and pessimism and panic for the sake of clicks. And telling people that many of their fellow Americans secretly hate them and wish them harm, when this is not in fact the case, is morally reprehensible.​

Oh, yeah racism really exists. But let’s talk about it in terms of reality, not fantasy. America is not a racist country. Let’s focus on the problem we have, not the problem some would like us to have.

There is a certain segment of the population that needs racism to exist even when it does not exist. It is very very odd. And lots of them are in the media and have brainwashed many into thinking the USA is rotten to the core and full of tons of racists. Its unreal.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

We don't have what the writer deems a "responsible media class" anymore. At least, not where people get their news**

I used to think it was the fault of the 24 hour cable news cycle. And partly it is. But it's the boom of social media as well. Stories don't have to be true on social media.

But we LOVE this b/c we love the 1A and our slander/libel laws are seemingly non-existent (ot at least not enforced). And the media class....what is that anymore? Journalists are dying off and replaced with talking heads and opinion spewers.

Racism SELLS baby....sweet, sweet dollars in their pockets. The Weather Channel, BBC, and PBS are the most trusted new sources and nobody watches them.

**See the attached link. Look at where people under 45 are getting their news. Social media and YOUTUBE. While many in the older generations are just listening to cable news.

Also, last thing, there is a huge difference between "news" and "opinion" as you know. I would venture to guess 90% of what's on cable news after 5pm is opinion.

Trust in Media 2022: Where Americans get their news and who they trust for information | YouGov

The most politically polarizing media outlet is CNN. Nearly two-thirds of Democrats (66%) rate CNN as trustworthy, compared to 11% of Republicans, a 55-point difference, larger than for any other outlet.

today.yougov.com

Mostly agree. Social media is more of a problem than the news. Our obsession with cultural self-loathing is fed by social media. This has significant social impacts. Anxiety is increasing, depression is increasing, drug use is increasing, and our ability to form meaningful relationships is decreasing. There is much fallout from this including rapidly declining birth rates. I think a case can be made that the increase in violence can be traced back to our national negativity.

 

[larsIU]

Mostly agree. Social media is more of a problem than the news. Our obsession with cultural self-loathing is fed by social media. This has significant social impacts. Anxiety is increasing, depression is increasing, drug use is increasing, and our ability to form meaningful relationships is decreasing. There is much fallout from this including rapidly declining birth rates. I think a case can be made that the increase in violence can be traced back to our national negativity.

Our brains are struggling to deal with social media.

In our evolution we've always had SO MUCH TIME to slowly change. Go back 200 years. No human had ever gone faster than a horse could take them.

Go back 10-12,000 years and no human had ever eaten bread, far less cultivated the soil to grow its ingredients.

Our bodies now struggle with this new world. Our guts are a disaster compared to our ancestors as are our joints. Our backs alone were NEVER meant for the kind of physical labor farming demands.

I think we're learning, in some respects, our brains don't develop any quicker than our bodies. The "cognitive" revolution about 70,000 years ago allowed our brains to evolve very quickly. But now this cognitive evolution has met it's greatest foe to date, social media.

I'm not hopeful it gets better any time soon.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Our brains are struggling to deal with social media.

In our evolution we've always had SO MUCH TIME to slowly change. Go back 200 years. No human had ever gone faster than a horse could take them.

Go back 10-12,000 years and no human had ever eaten bread, far less cultivated the soil to grow its ingredients.

Our bodies now struggle with this new world. Our guts are a disaster compared to our ancestors as are our joints. Our backs alone were NEVER meant for the kind of physical labor farming demands.

I think we're learning, in some respects, our brains don't develop any quicker than our bodies. The "cognitive" revolution about 70,000 years ago allowed our brains to evolve very quickly. But now this cognitive evolution has met it's greatest foe to date, social media.

I'm not hopeful it gets better any time soon.

Fair point. Our brains struggle with many things, not just social media. We are teaching youngsters to feel, not to think. Those who can think will be way ahead of those who feel while believing they are thinking. Our public education system sucks, and it is getting worse. We are not producing the kind of educated populace that we will need to sustain a strong and vibrant culture and country.

 

[hoot1]

One of my themes about political conservatives and liberals not being able to compromise is that their overlook values they have in common and focus on their differences. On the subject of blacks and whites it would seem to me as fellow human beings even people of different skin color should have a lot in common.

Affinity, or sharing the belief you are in the same boat regardless of skin color and have a lot in common according to this study tells us that in America we have a long way to go. Sure we can all say we aren't a racist, but according to this study many of us don't think we have a lot in common with people of color.

Why is this ? Can we really believe it is the media that makes us this way?

 

[bawlmer]

In the scheme of things, is hyper-racial sensitivity so awful? Compared to where we've been in my lifetime, it's probably a price worth paying.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Here is a great read about our racism fantasies. Read the whole thing.

The American media's racism fantasy

Stories about slurs are too good to check

unherd.com

The question is why do accusations of racism have such traction? Why do we always strain to think the worst when another innocent explanation is readily apparent?

For whatever reason, we are consumed with self-loathing. From the 1619 project to the BYU volleyball court, we are determined to diminish ourselves because of racism. If we can’t find conspicuous racism, we make it up or we fabricate an illusive racist culture and call it “systemic racism”. We smugly put out statements of inclusivity and welcoming which signs are in Lilly white college towns or white expensive vacation spots. We fool ourselves into believing that offices of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” really mean something when all they really mean is another virtue signal. Authors and other wannabe intellectuals make millions by claiming that denial of racism is racist and all whites are racist.

Our racist obsession is not harmless. It sends a horribly destructive message to black youngsters about their future. The concluding point in the link:

But the worst harm is something more basic: it is bad for black Americans to be unreasonably terrified that they’ll be hate-crimed every time they leave the house. It is wrong to instil fear and pessimism and panic for the sake of clicks. And telling people that many of their fellow Americans secretly hate them and wish them harm, when this is not in fact the case, is morally reprehensible.​

Oh, yeah racism really exists. But let’s talk about it in terms of reality, not fantasy. America is not a racist country. Let’s focus on the problem we have, not the problem some would like us to have.

racism exists. deal with it.

as does reverse racism.

that said, Wall St and Koch and the Wall St corporate media keeping the masses fighting and pitted against each other 24/7 over social issues, as they've done for well over a hundred yrs on that very strategy, to keep the working class from uniting against the entrenched rich who are the real enemy of the masses on all sides, is what this is really about.

and what your thread starter post is really about.

keep up the non stop instigating trolling. that's what you're here for, right?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

One of my themes about political conservatives and liberals not being able to compromise is that their overlook values they have in common and focus on their differences. On the subject of blacks and whites it would seem to me as fellow human beings even people of different skin color should have a lot in common.

Affinity, or sharing the belief you are in the same boat regardless of skin color and have a lot in common according to this study tells us that in America we have a long way to go. Sure we can all say we aren't a racist, but according to this study many of us don't think we have a lot in common with people of color.

Why is this ? Can we really believe it is the media that makes us this way?

I think we have a lot if common ground across racial, ideological and social issues. For a myriad of reasons, we can’t occupy it. The extremists are becoming more extreme. Those who move toward the common ground are ridiculed by the more strident among us. And there is too much power authority, influence and control associated with maintaining divisions. Social media and 24/7 news coverage definitely plays a role. But it’s hard to know if that is a cause or effect. Probably both.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

keep up the non stop instigating trolling. that's what you're here for, right?

A strong clear thinker can’t be trolled. If you think I troll, that’s on you.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

A strong clear thinker can’t be trolled. If you think I troll, that’s on you.

i think clear enough to know you troll.

nice try though.

and pitting people against each other on social issues to keep the discussion off economic issues, is your thing, and why you're here trolling everyday.

anti working class internet troll on an Indiana forum by someone in Col seems a strange and embarrassing sunset to your career.

it must be kind of humiliating and depressing when you sign out each day, knowing this is what things have come to for you.

i suggest aspiring to something better while you still have that chance.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

i suggest aspiring to something better while you still have that chance.

Ha. I can think of a way for you to make this board something better for all of us.

 

[T.M.P.]

A strong clear thinker can’t be trolled. If you think I troll, that’s on you.

liar.

 

[hoot1]

i think clear enough to know you troll.

nice try though.

and pitting people against each other on social issues to keep the discussion off economic issues, is your thing, and why you're here trolling everyday.

anti working class internet troll on an Indiana forum by someone in Col seems a strange and embarrassing sunset to your career.

it must be kind of humiliating and depressing when you sign out each day, knowing this is what things have come to for you.

i suggest aspiring to something better while you still have that chance.

IGW, don't see Co H in the same way.

See him as an advocate willing to take a client's case before a judge and present the best case possible.

Not saying he totally accepts the case he presents. Say this because I sometimes wonder.

Do know this. He always makes me think. Would like to have him as neighbor who spends social time with my porch crowd. Would consider myself lucky to have him drop by.

 

[IUINSB]

Do know this. He always makes me think. Would like to have him as neighbor who spends social time with my porch crowd. Would consider myself lucky to have him drop by.

Man, your current neighbors must be something very special.
TIC

 

[UncleMark]

Would like to have him as neighbor who spends social time with my porch crowd. Would consider myself lucky to have him drop by.

Do you live anywhere close to 2nd and Walnut?

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Here is a great read about our racism fantasies. Read the whole thing.

The American media's racism fantasy

Stories about slurs are too good to check

unherd.com

The question is why do accusations of racism have such traction? Why do we always strain to think the worst when another innocent explanation is readily apparent?

For whatever reason, we are consumed with self-loathing. From the 1619 project to the BYU volleyball court, we are determined to diminish ourselves because of racism. If we can’t find conspicuous racism, we make it up or we fabricate an illusive racist culture and call it “systemic racism”. We smugly put out statements of inclusivity and welcoming which signs are in Lilly white college towns or white expensive vacation spots. We fool ourselves into believing that offices of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” really mean something when all they really mean is another virtue signal. Authors and other wannabe intellectuals make millions by claiming that denial of racism is racist and all whites are racist.

Our racist obsession is not harmless. It sends a horribly destructive message to black youngsters about their future. The concluding point in the link:

But the worst harm is something more basic: it is bad for black Americans to be unreasonably terrified that they’ll be hate-crimed every time they leave the house. It is wrong to instil fear and pessimism and panic for the sake of clicks. And telling people that many of their fellow Americans secretly hate them and wish them harm, when this is not in fact the case, is morally reprehensible.​

Oh, yeah racism really exists. But let’s talk about it in terms of reality, not fantasy. America is not a racist country. Let’s focus on the problem we have, not the problem some would like us to have.

Never ever forget how big of an industry Racism! Inc. has become. It exists because we allow it to.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

racism exists. deal with it.

as does reverse racism.

that said, Wall St and Koch and the Wall St corporate media keeping the masses fighting and pitted against each other 24/7 over social issues, as they've done for well over a hundred yrs on that very strategy, to keep the working class from uniting against the entrenched rich who are the real enemy of the masses on all sides, is what this is really about.

and what your thread starter post is really about.

keep up the non stop instigating trolling. that's what you're here for, right?

If reverse racism exists - which many progressives would say it does not - where is the anti-reverse racism program home in academia ?

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

In the scheme of things, is hyper-racial sensitivity so awful? Compared to where we've been in my lifetime, it's probably a price worth paying.

That’s a nonsense virtue signal. Yes it’s a major problem. It leads to terrible decisions in the workplace and in society.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

liar.

Oh. No. You. Didnt add that period.

 

[bawlmer]

That’s a nonsense virtue signal. Yes it’s a major problem. It leads to terrible decisions in the workplace and in society.

You can stuff your jargon. It's a predictable over-reaction to the times people unabashedly yelled racist slurs in public.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Never ever forget how big of an industry Racism! Inc. has become. It exists because we allow it to.

I think some need it. That’s more than allowing it.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

IGW, don't see Co H in the same way.

See him as an advocate willing to take a client's case before a judge and present the best case possible.

Not saying he totally accepts the case he presents. Say this because I sometimes wonder.

Do know this. He always makes me think. Would like to have him as neighbor who spends social time with my porch crowd. Would consider myself lucky to have him drop by.

Thanks. Can’t do much better than causing intelligent people to think. What kind of beer do you have in your porch fridge? Might make a road trip.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

You can stuff your jargon. It's a predictable over-reaction to the times people unabashedly yelled racist slurs in public.

Right - which hasn’t happened for several decades and we were at a relatively peaceful place in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s with race relations until some entrepreneur founded Racism! Inc. and here we are. Congrats!

 

[CO. Hoosier]

In the scheme of things, is hyper-racial sensitivity so awful? Compared to where we've been in my lifetime, it's probably a price worth paying.

The great civil rights strides were not the result of hyper-sensitivity. There was overwhelming need. Slouching towards hyper-sensitivity as a basis for further action trivializes the problem.

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

You can stuff your jargon. It's a predictable over-reaction to the times people unabashedly yelled racist slurs in public.

I didn't grow up that far back, but I'll be damned if I don't think every future event where a black person cries racism is first a Juicy Smuoliet or Rachel Richardson. Hell, despite a thorough investigation including 50 interviews and video review, nothing concerning was found.

And yet, the loser running South Carolina's women's bball team is refusing to play BYU. That stupid decision is a shame for all involved.

 

[bawlmer]

Right - which hasn’t happened for several decades and we were at a relatively peaceful place in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s with race relations until some entrepreneur founded Racism! Inc. and here we are. Congrats!

I have no idea what Racism Inc is. But I do know I'm not going to beat my breast in despair over disagreements like the one in the OP. I've seen plenty of real violent and destructive racism face-to-face in my lifetime that doesn't fade from memory over a few decades.

 

[bawlmer]

The great civil rights strides were not the result of hyper-sensitivity. There was overwhelming need. Slouching towards hyper-sensitivity as a basis for further action trivializes the problem.

Good point and I'm not defending reckless accusations. Just suggesting it's less a pointer for where we're headed than a byproduct of where we've been.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Good point and I'm not defending reckless accusations. Just suggesting it's less a pointer for where we're headed than a byproduct of where we've been.

But you’ve clearly been conditioned to accept hyper-sensitivity as an acceptable collateral damage. And that’s completely unacceptable.

 

[bawlmer]

But you’ve clearly been conditioned to accept hyper-sensitivity as an acceptable collateral damage. And that’s completely unacceptable.

I'm sympathetic to Blacks who may be paranoid. Media organizations running with the story without verifying it is piss poor work (unacceptable). Sometimes that distinction is lost.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

I'm sympathetic to Blacks who may be paranoid. Media organizations running with the story without verifying it is piss poor work (unacceptable). Sometimes that distinction is lost.

When everything is racist, nothing is. There are countless baseless accusations of racism on a daily basis that feed a narrative that Blacks are daily victims and have no hope. It’s ludicrous but hey it gets democrats votes so it’s ok.

 

[IUCrazy2]

When everything is racist, nothing is. There are countless baseless accusations of racism on a daily basis that feed a narrative that Blacks are daily victim’s and have no hope. It’s ludicrous but hey it gets democrats votes so it’s ok.

If you look for racism under every rock, you will find it. Particularly when you keep lowering the bar for what constitutes it. We've progressed so far that we need to make stuff up.

 

[anon_6hv78pr714xta]

Good point and I'm not defending reckless accusations. Just suggesting it's less a pointer for where we're headed than a byproduct of where we've been.

You’re wrong. There are two goals of the anti-racist movement: (1) enrich its administrator and writer class; (2) affect real, deep, and in my mind mostly harmful changes to society. It’s already playing out in many schools—my kids lost out on honors classes, for example, in the name of combatting “institutional” racism/“white supremacy”

It is OK to call things like you see them and combat excesses even in a movement you think is important or needed. If those of us who want to make that movement better don’t do it, it won’t change.

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

I didn't grow up that far back, but I'll be damned if I don't think every future event where a black person cries racism is first a Juicy Smuoliet or Rachel Richardson. Hell, despite a thorough investigation including 50 interviews and video review, nothing concerning was found.

And yet, the loser running South Carolina's women's bball team is refusing to play BYU. That stupid decision is a shame for all involved.

If you read her and her grandmothers account of what happened and then look at the complete lack of evidence that even one racist WORD was uttered, it’s pretty clear they made it all up.

But if you go to Google right now and search up her name, you won’t find any stories on how it was clearly fake news. You’ll just find the original reports.


It’s pretty amazing how awful the media has become. They’re the reason guys like Cosmic see racism everywhere they look.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

You’re wrong. There are two goals of the anti-racist movement: (1) enrich its administrator and writer class; (2) affect real, deep, and in my mind mostly harmful changes to society. It’s already playing out in many schools—my kids lost out on honors classes, for example, in the name of combatting “institutional” racism/“white supremacy”

It is OK to call things like you see them and combat excesses even in a movement you think is important or needed. If those of us who want to make that movement better don’t do it, it won’t change.

It’s also OK to be an older American and still have scars from what you witnessed decades ago - but one needs to constantly update to the changing environment. We were post-racism largely at scale for a while until the grifters came along and struck gold.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

If you read her and her grandmothers account of what happened and then look at the complete lack of evidence that even one racist WORD was uttered, it’s pretty clear they made it all up.

But if you go to Google right now and search up her name, you won’t find any stories on how it was clearly fake news. You’ll just find the original reports.


It’s pretty amazing how awful the media has become. They’re the reason guys like Cosmic see racism everywhere they look.

I hadn’t seen the alleged racist’s name listed anywhere in print. Perhaps the media has finally learned from their Sandmann and Rittenhouse libel. If they had printed his name there would be a big payday coming - and there should be as long as these fairy tales are rushed into the public by the horrible press.

Lawyers are the only conduit to fixing an awful, woke journalism cohort.

 

[IUCrazy2]

“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

You are in rare form this morning so this is probably going nowhere, but no one is saying racism does not exist. They are saying that it is vastly overstated.

 

[larsIU]

Random thought....but we're all of a certain age right? Our views of what the press should and can be are, no doubt, tinted by the journalism of Watergate, Iran-Contra, the S&L disaster. Hell, even Whitewater, etc. There was a time when the press was interested in sticking it to the man, so to speak. They really did "speak truth to power".

However, I don't consider most of what's on TV these days to be journalism. It's opinion and rabble rousing.

But there's no money in newspapers or long form journalism anymore. The money is in cable "news" which has followed the path of ESPN.

Do you remember when ESPN was just mostly sports and Sportscenter with the occasional Sunday morning talk show thrown in. Turn it on RIGHT NOW and I bet it's two people arguing about something.

Cable news providers saw the money being made off of CONFLICT and decided to cash in. But they didn't do it with William Buckley and Chris Hitchens did they? Nope. We got Tucker Carlson and Keith Olberman.

Conflict sells. Creates teams. Creates division. In the sports world it's fun and games. Not so much when they are talking serious topics like racism, wealth inequality, etc. Those topics should be discussed soberly. And the worst part, you can't admit you're wrong. Look at how many of us defended Bob Knight's arrogance and boorish behavior or how many will tell you Tom Allen is going to lead us to the promised land.