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The Big 10 has changed football scheduling requirements and I couldn't be happier

Again more substanceless post from the spa...providing nothing to back up his claim. I could easily say the same thing and pretend like i know as much as you pretend to.

Carry on though...
 
I do remember playing LSU at home and Colorado also in Memorial Stadium. I think we split those two, beating LSU and losing to Colrado.

We've played Louisville at home and Cincinnati.

Oddly enough, IU played these programs before they all stepped up their game and became higher profile, national programs during their day.
 
As I recall, 1979 was a pretty good year for IU football and our non-conference schedule included Vanderbilt, Kentucky and Colorado. None of those teams were powerhouses, that year. On the other hand, I remember attending the IU-Nebraska game that the Cornhuskers won 77-17 on a cold, rainy day. I left in the Third Quarter because the game was, for all intents and purposes, over and I was wet and cold. It's the only time I've ever left a sporting event before the game was over.
 
Again more substanceless post from the spa...providing nothing to back up his claim. I could easily say the same thing and pretend like i know as much as you pretend to.

Carry on though...
You claimed no high profile teams would come to Bloomington, then you couldn't support it. You seem to revel in your ignorance. Please go back to the OTF. You don't belong here. And if you want to believe that discussions between IU AD's and some very high profile programs haven't occurred, feel free. Again, you seem to revel in your ignorance, which you're welcome to do.
 
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As I recall, 1979 was a pretty good year for IU football and our non-conference schedule included Vanderbilt, Kentucky and Colorado. None of those teams were powerhouses, that year. On the other hand, I remember attending the IU-Nebraska game that the Cornhuskers won 77-17 on a cold, rainy day. I left in the Third Quarter because the game was, for all intents and purposes, over and I was wet and cold. It's the only time I've ever left a sporting event before the game was over.

I was young but attended the home games. Parents had season tickets since the mid-50s. The game against LSU was a night game.
Corso, for his shortcomings, recruited pretty well and scheduled some level competition. Of course, those were the days in which if you didn't end up as one of the top 3 teams in the conference, you always stayed home for the holidays. Fans that didn't live through the days of big 2, Little 8 don't realize that, with exception of OSU and Michigan, every game was practically a toss up in the conference.
 
You claimed no high profile teams would come to Bloomington, then you couldn't support it. You seem to revel in your ignorance. Please go back to the OTF. You don't belong here. And if you want to believe that discussions between IU AD's and some very high profile programs haven't occurred, feel free. Again, you seem to revel in your ignorance, which you're welcome to do.

Big time program's will play home and home's for the following reasons...

1. Recruiting
2. TV ratings
3. Pay from gate revenue
4. Alumni base

IU doesn't provide any of those. There are going to be a lot more neutral site games and there is now talk of Lucas Oil Stadium as a site in the coming years for a B1G vs power 5 early season game that compares to Dallas or Atlanta. If FOX gets tier 1 rights to the B1G, you better believe that will happen.
 
You claimed no high profile teams would come to Bloomington, then you couldn't support it. You seem to revel in your ignorance. Please go back to the OTF. You don't belong here. And if you want to believe that discussions between IU AD's and some very high profile programs haven't occurred, feel free. Again, you seem to revel in your ignorance, which you're welcome to do.
You're using games from over thirty years ago to support your argument...I am using schedules from the last 10 years and those teams already signed for future schedules. Again...none are of the USC, Alabama, LSU variety.

You're proof that talks are happening? Well....oh wait....you have none.

Carry on....
 
Big time program's will play home and home's for the following reasons...

1. Recruiting
2. TV ratings
3. Pay from gate revenue
4. Alumni base

IU doesn't provide any of those. There are going to be a lot more neutral site games and there is now talk of Lucas Oil Stadium as a site in the coming years for a B1G vs power 5 early season game that compares to Dallas or Atlanta. If FOX gets tier 1 rights to the B1G, you better believe that will happen.


Of course big time programs prefer to play home and home's but every team has to play road games my man. Getting a team from a major 5 conference to only do away games is not something teams like IU will have to agree to anymore. Indiana would rather play someone like a Kansas (who is their equal) home and away before trying to do an away and away against one of the big boys. IU isn't that hard up for money like they were in the past so the cash influence isn't what it once was. Those lower tier teams in the major conferences have some leverage to get these home and aways with the bigger programs and it will pay more dividends if the major conferences require the same type of scheduling as the Big 10 is.
 
You're using games from over thirty years ago to support your argument...I am using schedules from the last 10 years and those teams already signed for future schedules. Again...none are of the USC, Alabama, LSU variety.

You're proof that talks are happening? Well....oh wait....you have none.

Carry on....
Still nothing from you, other than you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't belong here.
 
Of course big time programs prefer to play home and home's but every team has to play road games my man. Getting a team from a major 5 conference to only do away games is not something teams like IU will have to agree to anymore. Indiana would rather play someone like a Kansas (who is their equal) home and away before trying to do an away and away against one of the big boys. IU isn't that hard up for money like they were in the past so the cash influence isn't what it once was. Those lower tier teams in the major conferences have some leverage to get these home and aways with the bigger programs and it will pay more dividends if the major conferences require the same type of scheduling as the Big 10 is.


Totally agree. I think that it's very possible and worth playing teams like Kansas, K St, Iowa St or here's a freaking idea... Kentucky.
 
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Totally agree. I think that it's very possible and worth playing teams like Kansas, K St, Iowa St or here's a freaking idea... Kentucky.
The problem with playing Kentucky isn't an IU problem, it's Kentucky. They don't want another home and away out of conference game. They already play Louisville home and away. Louisville seems a likely candidate, though.
 
The problem with playing Kentucky isn't an IU problem, it's Kentucky. They don't want another home and away out of conference game. They already play Louisville home and away. Louisville seems a likely candidate, though.

Also add to the fact that IU owns the overall advantage on our head-to-head battle with UK and it's likely that they are simply frightened to play the series.:eek:
 
I bet going forward IU won't agree to anything except a home-and-home series. ND won't visit Bloomington again after their embarrassing loss to us last time.... in 1950.

Yes, ND has never had any embarrassing losses since then. Someone else mentioned that it doesn't benefit ND to play IU because it doesn't need to beat IU for recruits. So the Irish must think that Navy and Purdue are recruiting adversaries, along with such other programs as Rice, Western Michigan and South Florida.
 
I bet going forward IU won't agree to anything except a home-and-home series. ND won't visit Bloomington again after their embarrassing loss to us last time.... in 1950.

Yes, ND has never had any embarrassing losses since then. Someone else mentioned that it doesn't benefit ND to play IU because it doesn't need to beat IU for recruits. So the Irish must think that Navy and Purdue are recruiting adversaries, along with such other programs as Rice, Western Michigan and South Florida.
It doesn't benefit them to play in Bloomington. They won't play us here. This has been common knowledge for like two decades.
 
Then quit telling people they "don't belong here."
Relax, big guy. Both of you made an assertion based on nothing more than uninformed opinion. He was here to argue, you seem to be here to cheerlead and shout down anyone with a critical view of the program. Not much else to say, is there?
 
Relax, big guy. Both of you made an assertion based on nothing more than uninformed opinion. He was here to argue, you seem to be here to cheerlead and shout down anyone with a critical view of the program. Not much else to say, is there?
Good God, you need to lighten up. This thread has gone off the rails.
 
Relax, big guy. Both of you made an assertion based on nothing more than uninformed opinion. He was here to argue, you seem to be here to cheerlead and shout down anyone with a critical view of the program. Not much else to say, is there?

Is everyone supposed to just accept that yours is an informed opinion? You seem to be here just to troll and it is a sad commentary on the moderation here that you are still posting. In the old days you would not have lasted a day with this crap.
 
Relax, big guy. Both of you made an assertion based on nothing more than uninformed opinion. He was here to argue, you seem to be here to cheerlead and shout down anyone with a critical view of the program. Not much else to say, is there?
Uninformed opinions? I guess just looking at the schedules over the last 20 years as well as the non-conference games already scheduled for the next few years that prove we are correct is actually uninformed....where as someone who has provided no evidence other than a couple of games almost well over thirty years ago, is informed.

Got it...
 
Uninformed opinions? I guess just looking at the schedules over the last 20 years as well as the non-conference games already scheduled for the next few years that prove we are correct is actually uninformed....where as someone who has provided no evidence other than a couple of games almost well over thirty years ago, is informed.

Got it...
Are you not able to read? I ask that in all seriousness given the fact that you regularly ignore large bits of information in this thread. I have maintained from the very first post that I made that IU has had regular discussions with high profile programs about playing, including scheduling games in Bloomington. The fact that they haven't played is in no way indicative of the fact that conversations have occurred with some regularity.

One can only conclude that your reading skills are subpar or you're simply not very bright. Perhaps both are true.
 
Is everyone supposed to just accept that yours is an informed opinion? You seem to be here just to troll and it is a sad commentary on the moderation here that you are still posting. In the old days you would not have lasted a day with this crap.
I've been attacked reputedly by two posters who made statements that they couldn't support. They're the ones you should focus on. Not a good perception created by a few on a board that is already poorly regarded.
 
Are you not able to read? I ask that in all seriousness given the fact that you regularly ignore large bits of information in this thread. I have maintained from the very first post that I made that IU has had regular discussions with high profile programs about playing, including scheduling games in Bloomington. The fact that they haven't played is in no way indicative of the fact that conversations have occurred with some regularity.

One can only conclude that your reading skills are subpar or you're simply not very bright. Perhaps both are true.
I can read...I've said that there is no way, those teams would come to Bloomington and IU would not go to their place to play in a one-off game. The history of our past schedules and our future ooc schedules already prove I am correct.

I have the schedules to show I am correct....You can claim phone calls are being made, but you have ZERO evidence to offer that is actually the case. I can claim that Santa's elves are diligently working in Santa's workshop, to which you cannot disprove...and I cannot prove other than to say that it is happening...just like the argument you are making, except I have history and future schedules on my side...you? Not so much.

Of course, FG could be calling Nick Saban weekly, asking him to come to Bloomington and good ol' Nick is just laughing...I guess that could mean that the conversations are occurring regularly.
 
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I can read...I've said that there is no way, those teams would come to Bloomington and IU would not go to their place to play in a one-off game. The history of our past schedules and our future ooc schedules already prove I am correct.

I have the schedules to show I am correct....You can claim phone calls are being made, but you have ZERO evidence to offer that is actually the case. I can claim that Santa's elves are diligently working in Santa's workshop, to which you cannot disprove...and I cannot prove other than to say that it is happening...just like the argument you are making, except I have history and future schedules on my side...you? Not so much.

Of course, FG could be calling Nick Saban weekly, asking him to come to Bloomington and good ol' Nick is just laughing...I guess that could mean that the conversations are occurring regularly.
Which of IU's last four AD's have you heard address this subject? Likely you've never met any of them, so the answer is zero. Yes, you are tremendously, incredibly uninformed. Just like you were on the recent hoops recruit, where you showed how little you know. And, no, you can't read, as you've missed huge parts of what I've said.
 
Which of IU's last four AD's have you heard address this subject?
None...but yet you claim...

...I have maintained from the very first post that I made that IU has had regular discussions with high profile programs about playing, including scheduling games in Bloomington. The fact that they haven't played is in no way indicative of the fact that conversations have occurred with some regularity

It's obvious that the last four ADs have really worked hard and regularly contacted high profile programs about playing....yet nothing has come of those supposed talks, which (wait for it....) was my initial comment that those schools wouldn't 1) come to IU to play and 2) IU wouldn't schedule a one-off game just to play at their place.

Again, you can claim these discussions are happening regularly, but you have nothing that backs that up based on the last four ADs...for which you must have had access to...have not been able to actually schedule anything against those high profile programs.

...Just like you were on the recent hoops recruit, where you showed how little you know....
Enlighten me...I have no idea what you are actually talking about...especially since IU is recruiting 50+ kids.

Feel free to share what ADs have contacted which teams and how you actually know that this is happening. If you want, I can post our schedules so that you can see we haven't scheduled any of the high profile programs.
 
None...but yet you claim...



It's obvious that the last four ADs have really worked hard and regularly contacted high profile programs about playing....yet nothing has come of those supposed talks, which (wait for it....) was my initial comment that those schools wouldn't 1) come to IU to play and 2) IU wouldn't schedule a one-off game just to play at their place.

Again, you can claim these discussions are happening regularly, but you have nothing that backs that up based on the last four ADs...for which you must have had access to...have not been able to actually schedule anything against those high profile programs.


Enlighten me...I have no idea what you are actually talking about...especially since IU is recruiting 50+ kids.

Feel free to share what ADs have contacted which teams and how you actually know that this is happening. If you want, I can post our schedules so that you can see we haven't scheduled any of the high profile programs.
As I said previously, you can't read. I made it clear in post 65 that IU was the party that wasn't interested, not the other way around. Once again, you can't hit your plate with your fork. As for the hoops recruit, are you really so dishonest to not admit that the recent Michigan commit was one you were sure was going to IU? You keep doubling down and looking dumber each time.

"Enlighten me". That seems to be the only wise thing you've said. At this point, it's clear you just want to argue and that you have no other interest.
 
It works both ways 82.
You perhaps remembered Nebraska with I.M. Hipp who ran for a gazillion yards and whipped our our ass on national television when it was the game of the week?

I would much rather have a winning record every year and if we have to play 4 puds in non conference to get there, so be it. You know why?
It's entirely about perception and at the end of the day, recruits and the rest of the nation pays attention to your wins and losses and bowl appearances, not who you you played necessarily along the way. The perception is that the school wins and goes to bowls.

Boise State gets attention and they don't play a gautlet. But, they go to bowls and that's what people know about the program.

Hell, the Big Ten is going to give IU 8 other recognized opponents every season. Why add on to it?
 
It works both ways 82.
You perhaps remembered Nebraska with I.M. Hipp who ran for a gazillion yards and whipped our our ass on national television when it was the game of the week?

I would much rather have a winning record every year and if we have to play 4 puds in non conference to get there, so be it. You know why?
It's entirely about perception and at the end of the day, recruits and the rest of the nation pays attention to your wins and losses and bowl appearances, not who you you played necessarily along the way. The perception is that the school wins and goes to bowls.

Boise State gets attention and they don't play a gautlet. But, they go to bowls and that's what people know about the program.

Hell, the Big Ten is going to give IU 8 other recognized opponents every season. Why add on to it?

Thanks for straightening him out before I had to.
 
As I said previously, you can't read. I made it clear in post 65 that IU was the party that wasn't interested, not the other way around. Once again, you can't hit your plate with your fork. As for the hoops recruit, are you really so dishonest to not admit that the recent Michigan commit was one you were sure was going to IU? You keep doubling down and looking dumber each time.

"Enlighten me". That seems to be the only wise thing you've said. At this point, it's clear you just want to argue and that you have no other interest.
I dont recall ever saying the any Michigan recruit was going to IU...but hey, when you recruit 50+ guys that can end up anywhere.

So back to the issue at hand...now IU was the one turning down the big guys. So who was the team trying to get IU to come play? Are you saying that said team was willing to come to Bloomington and IU said no?

You still have not provided one shred of evidence...yet we can look at the schedules, past and future, and see that none of the big dawgs are on it. But hey, IUs last 4 ADs have been regularly contacting the big schools to play.

Cant wait for you to reply again without any evidence to back up what you are saying...
 
I dont recall ever saying the any Michigan recruit was going to IU...but hey, when you recruit 50+ guys that can end up anywhere.

So back to the issue at hand...now IU was the one turning down the big guys. So who was the team trying to get IU to come play? Are you saying that said team was willing to come to Bloomington and IU said no?

You still have not provided one shred of evidence...yet we can look at the schedules, past and future, and see that none of the big dawgs are on it. But hey, IUs last 4 ADs have been regularly contacting the big schools to play.

Cant wait for you to reply again without any evidence to back up what you are saying...
You claimed Ibi Watson was ready to commit to IU, even though that wasn't the case. You also claimed Crean's wife wanted out of Bloomington. That wasn't the case, either, so it's not like you have any credibility on IU sports. And, if you read what I wrote, IU's current and former AD's have had a number of discussions with programs about playing IU, including some very high profile ones. And yes,That included playing in Bloomington. As I already said, IU has consistently not been willing to play those schools, not the other way around. Not sure why you can't comprehend this, or why you believe the only proof of discussions is that games were played. AD's talk all the time about different schedule ideas. Most people understand this.
 
...And, if you read what I wrote, IU's current and former AD's have had a number of discussions with programs about playing IU, including some very high profile ones. And yes,That included playing in Bloomington. .

The question that remains unanswered is, which programs? If that can't be answered, let's drop this conversation.

I like this football board because it largely avoids the picking of fights that seem so rampant on the bball side. Let's not bring it over here. Thanks.
 
Is everyone supposed to just accept that yours is an informed opinion? You seem to be here just to troll and it is a sad commentary on the moderation here that you are still posting. In the old days you would not have lasted a day with this crap.

Hmm
 
You claimed Ibi Watson was ready to commit to IU, even though that wasn't the case.
Ummm...yeah....you can thank the person who's name is on this website for that information. Just repeating what he said in chat. Same thing was said by rabjons.

Now...I can prove that IU hasnt played any of the big boys, nor do they have any scheduled. You? Your proof is "ADs talk...blah blah blah..."

I can make a similar claim as you then. IU is trying to get a secret hashbrown casserole recipe from Michigan State. The secretaries in the AD talk about it all the time....PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!
 
You also claimed Crean's wife wanted out of Bloomington.
Nope...but even if she did, do you have proof she didnt?

Interesting how you can make unsubstantiated claims but everyone else is a liar....
 
Ummm...yeah....you can thank the person who's name is on this website for that information. Just repeating what he said in chat. Same thing was said by rabjons.

Now...I can prove that IU hasnt played any of the big boys, nor do they have any scheduled. You? Your proof is "ADs talk...blah blah blah..."

I can make a similar claim as you then. IU is trying to get a secret hashbrown casserole recipe from Michigan State. The secretaries in the AD talk about it all the time....PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!
In your world, if no games have been played, no discussions have occurred. Ever. That's head in the sand reasoning, but that's what you're saying. And yes, you did say that about both Mrs. Crean's and the recruit, and you weren't close either time.
 
Nope...but even if she did, do you have proof she didnt?

Interesting how you can make unsubstantiated claims but everyone else is a liar....
Using your tortured logic, since they didn't leave, she never wanted to. See how easy and foolish your way of thinking can be? Can't believe you set yourself up for that. Where did I call you a liar? If I did, that's out of line. If I didn't, well, why would you say that?
 
Using your tortured logic, since they didn't leave, she never wanted to. See how easy and foolish your way of thinking can be? Can't believe you set yourself up for that. Where did I call you a liar? If I did, that's out of line. If I didn't, well, why would you say that?
Sounds exactly like..."conversations have been had and are being had all the time".

Welcome to the club
 
C'mon Spa....give us a nugget on this one. You don't even have to name names. Can you without hesitation confirm that you have spoken with the past ADs and they definitely confirmed that they have had talks with specific "big time" universities about scheduling a football game?
Is that info coming directly from first hand encounters with decision makers on the scheduling?
 
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