It depends on what our offense looks like. Was Harper Jr’s development hurt by playing the 4? If we play 4 out and he is asked to develop his perimeter game he will be fine. If they ask him to work inside it would hurt him.
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Cathedral had more size and talent than LN, and the size differential was the difference. I think Gunn's shooting mechanics are way better than Damezi's: he has a pretty sweet shot. Gunn does look more like a smooth player than a fast twitch speedster, which could be a concern and what you were getting at.
The Indy sectionals are brutal. Coverdale lost to Pike first game senior year, and Gordon lost in the sectional as a junior. LN did win sectional past two years and went to the State title game last year.
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Good to hear. I didn't watch that game. Yes, that's what I was getting at. And I'm speaking out of my arse on some of it too. As I've not followed him nearly as closely as I have other IU recruits in the past, for whatever reason.
Maybe the Cathedral kids are a special group? They just outworked/outshined Gunn in the Sectional title game. If he had a monster game the night before, and the load is all on him, maybe he was tired in the title game? The other game I saw him play, he seemed to float a little bit too.
I have read alot of reports on Gunn on another site. Guys who have watched him in person all year not some you tube highlights that show only the best highlights. They say while he can score he has a long ways to do on defense, etc before he can be a Division one player at least one who is playing big minutes. Take it for what its worth I know some go only off you tube highlights and will still not matter others say will convince themselves he will come in on day one and play major minutes.
What you say is bascially what I have read from guys who have watched him all year.
Good thoughts
I’m not sure who is on the fence, but I would think that for anyone that is, how we finish the year could have an impact. It would only be natural to think that however we end will affect any optimism/pessimism towards next year. Winning is fun.
Admittedly I'm a Cathedral fan (grandkids all went there) and it's a pretty special group. Comer is their best player and has been a 4 year starter. Really surprised Eastern Kentucky is his destination, thought he'd at least be good enough to play at a school like Butler. Edwards is a really good scorer who is headed to Murray State and Tibbs (jr.) is a tremendous athlete good enough to play D1 basketball or football as a receiver. Booker is going to be a high major commit but doesn't dominate the game the way you think a 6'10 kid would but still a tough matchup regardless and Jake Davis can really stretch the floor. They are a very balanced team and all 5 starters average double figures. Guessing the winner of Cathedral and Westfield/Homestead will be the 4A champion this year.
Was at North Central Fri and Sat night to watch Gunn and he's better than advertised. Saw nothing wrong with his defense and he can score the ball in a variety of ways. IU severely lacks a three level scorer and Gunn is going to address this need when his time is up.
Chesterton/Penn winner will have something to say about it...but overall, yeah, you're probably right. Those 2 Northern teams haven't had the full opportunity to run the Indianapolis gauntlet. Both will be competitive with whoever they face in a couple weeks though. If I had to guess, I'd say Chesterton will play Homestead for the North Semi State. Winner will face Cathedral. And those are probably the 3 best teams in the state right now.
Penn hasn't really played enough good teams to get a handle on how they'll compete going forward. But their PG, Burton, is a stud. I could see them knocking off Chesterton Saturday. Could also see them losing to Munster before that game, if Munster's zone bottles Burton up somehow. Penn has the length though, with 4-5 guys 6'5 and taller, to rebound and guard some of the top teams bigger kids. And their two guards are college level ball handlers and shooters. With Burton on the verge of becoming a high major type kid.
I think X comes back. He really elevated his game this latter half of the season. He's THE MAN for all seasons going forward. He's already been in the portal once. He's in his comfort zone here in Bloomington now. X won't want to run the risk of moving on and leaving his mojo behind. He'll be one of the top guards in the league next season and Woodson knows it, as well as NIL backers he negotiates with in talk.
Well the two I watched in person LN plays a zone. So assessing his defense is pretty difficult imo
But he’s athletically capable of guarding man to man imo
We most certainly need him back in a big way. Sorry if that sounds a little desperate do not want to seem at all negative.
A 4 out still requires a post game. I think JG is not a natural 4. He won’t play 4 in the pros. IMHO
I personally thinks he leaves. I don’t think staying another year helps his stock at all. He needs a jumpshot and ball handling. He is projected as a pf at the next level but he doesn’t have that game and wouldn’t be asked to learn that role at IU imo.
I think he will go overseas and focus on changing his game if he has nba aspirations. Or just go overseas to make some money as a center there for a decade.
He’s night and day different than Anderson for sure. Quicker too. A lot better form.
But four out can be 3 guards and a forward. He will be a forward at the next level. Probably a wing forward but a wing forward can be our 4 similar to how Rutgers play. We will have a post at the 5.
Just my opinion. I don’t know anything for certain but would be shocked if he is anything but our 4 next year.
Not negative in my view. Him coming back and elevating his game more is VERY important to IU.
Oh I agree he’s going to be a 4 for us but that’s not his ceiling. I’m assuming banks will be the back up too. Not sure who else we have for that spot. Of course all this depends on departures and transfers. Who do we get/needs.
Yep. Lots of speculation to be sure. As of now Banks would be the back up. If there is room to go get a transfer I would imagine a stretch 4 would be priority.
Shocking you would post this, something discrediting an IU recruit. And that’s rich, you bringing up stuff about YouTube highlights, you don’t even watch the games IU plays in, let alone Gunn. Your opinion is absolutely meaningless on this matter.
A 5 and wing scorer has to be the priority. Practically every position other than the 1 needs a big upgrade, but our weakest spots heading into next year are the 5 and wings.
Race,Parker,TJD, AND Kopp are gone I believe. Bates and Lander will most likely transfer. That is 6. Phinesee would make 7 if he chooses transfer portal. IU needs versatile big and power forward if X comes back. Leal and Galloway will improve as will Geronimo. Durr just seems slow deefensively. I hope that Duncomb really comes on over the summer. IU has a lot of work to do without great outside shooters unless they get one in portal.
Scoring is a priority at the 2-3. We have so many holes in our current and future roster(so far). Just about any upgrade could be welcome. They really are a mess.
I don’t know. The 4 is pretty unknown other than JG. Hope Banks can be effective immediately. We do need a scorer(s) at the 2-3. A 5 to me is second on the list.
Our 2s and 3s entering next year are:
Bates (maybe)
Leal
Galloway
Gunn
That's not a very talented group. The 5 spot is even worse with Durr and Duncomb. Durr is not capable of playing at this level let alone being a starter. Duncomb may come on, but that's a huge risk to count on.
Lol. Wtf? That’s why I said a scoring 2-3 and a good stretch 4 is priority to me. 5 is second on the list. We need scoring from the 3 point line badly. Lots of holes to fill.
Concur. There are lots of good teams with average/serviceable 5s. Not very many good teams without good wings/guards. The game has changed so much.
Side note to Gunn, sat next to family members of Woodson and friends of Gunns at game Saturday night. I have a strong feeling Woodson really likes Gunn
We also need competent 5s. In reality we should gut the roster and replace 95% of it.
I think Bates is fine and could easily become a major part of the rotation next year. How many players make big jumps after their Frosh year. Murray at Iowa. Davis at Wiscy. Armon Franklin at IU. They all made big jumps. How was Ja Morant as a Frosh comapred to his Soph year. That comaprison is not fair but it was a huge jump.
Obviously Bates has to put in the work and make the improvement but seems he has the athleticism and skill to put it together. I could see why there would be high optimism with JHS, bates and Trey on the wings if X and rob are back as PGs.
What's up with Duncomb. Will he play next year?
Obviously Bates has to put in the work and make the improvement but seems he has the athleticism and skill to put it together. I could see why there would be high optimism with JHS, bates and Trey on the wings if X and rob are back as PGs.
What's up with Duncomb. Will he play next year?
You are just ridiculous. Lol. This is my last response to idiocy. Jesus.
Keep:
XJ
Bates
Leal
Galloway
Geronimo
Duncomb (to what he becomes)
Dump:
The rest
Lol I am supposed to say he going to be a stud from day one I know thats the new board minimum for the unicorn crowd. I learned my lesson after the Romeo class is pumping up these recruits before they ever set foot on campus but I guess we are still supposed to be thinking they will all be studs you are saying. Heaven forbid people give honest evaluations unlike you some have realistic expectations and do not expect as many like you did a guys like Bates wer going to be a day one starting studs . Some of us do not live in delusional land we actually evaluate a player and are honest about what to expect the first year but I know to you every recruit is going to be a day one stud and when they are not you go silent or blame it on something else. Because guys like you think you know better than actual folks who have watched him day in and out and may not say he is the next coming of Eric Gordon. I get it you should maybe become a scout with all your vast knowledge and skill because you clearly know better than anyone else. I mean you are just on another level in evaluationg talent compared to most.
You are about to get trashed my fried. How dare you give an honest evaluation on the group. You are supposed to say those guys are going to move right into the starting lineup and we will not miss a beat. I would say you are mostly correct but that is not the current approved narrative.
That's fine. I really couldn't care less what these fanboys think. The direction of the program and Mike Woodson's coaching ability is obvious to all those not wearing rose colored glasses.
You two are about as dumb, emotional and embarrassing as fans as we have seen. Good grief what a couple of tools.
I will stick with the honest evaluation of our coaches and not those on here to bitch about everything IU.
Next year’s roster has the potential to be the worst roster we’ve had since Crean went 12-20 (3-15) in his 3rd year. It could absolutely be that bad if some of these guys leave and we don’t get a couple dominant transfers. It’s virtually impossible to imagine a scenario where the roster is better than this year.
Lol. Who said he was going to be a stud from day 1? I certainly haven’t seen that suggested. But you questioned whether or not he was a D1 player based on what you’ve “heard” on other sites about his “defense”.
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