I’ve seen it mention Woodson is still recruiting for next year but can’t seem to find any info on who he is going after? So any info is appreciated thanks
Still recruiting 2022
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Obviously Centerville's Rich Rolf. That was listed on the front page a couple of days ago. And he is listed with HS teammate and 2023 commit Gabe Cupps.
With Parker, Race, and TJD I’d say for sure gone. And 3 frosh coming in. I’d say the highest priorities recruiting wise would be this:
1. Convincing X another year at IU would be in his best interests.
2. Find an impact transfer big.
3. Find a 3 and D wing via transfer or HS recruiting.
1. Convincing X another year at IU would be in his best interests.
2. Find an impact transfer big.
3. Find a 3 and D wing via transfer or HS recruiting.
Guard driven game. I don’t want to rely on JHS and our returning guards without X.
I hear that but if TJD and Race both leave we will be hurting IMO. I really think we needed one more big this year and so far we have no bigs coming unless I am mistaken.
Against bigger centers we might end up all of our bigs on the bench with foul troubles.
It’s a big need for sure. Need them both. But without guard play improving, dramatically, it’ll be more of the same as what we’re seen lately. Race and TJD is a final four level front court…on a team that’s not going to make the tourney. That’s how bad the rest of our team is, namely our backcourt.
And having said that, X has shown as the year wore on, that he’s more than solid.
X, JHS, Trey, 3 and D long wing, and a solid big… can win as many or more games than we did this year. In my opinion.
I shudder to think of next season if X doesn’t come back. He’s really been the guy who has made us go this year.
Geronimo was a pretty good shooter in high school if he could get his shot or confidence back he would be a pretty good wing. We definitely need a big though and a guard that can shoot trey isn’t that guy unless a miracle happens and jhs doesn’t look like much of a shooter either so I say a guard that can shoot and a big would be priority. I think duncomb will be a solid guy off the bench and can score the ball not sold on his defense though
He seems almost like a jhs clone not much of a shooter but can get to the rim with ease
We will lose more than those three - probably3-4 more.
We will still have 2 bigs on our roster who can only play the 5 even if Race/TJD both leave. Woodson imo is really looking to move towards an open offense spreading the floor so I agree with you that X is probably priority.
If Woodson wants another big I think he will try to talk Race into staying and moving to the 5. Doubt we can find a transfer that would be better than Race. If Woodson goes to the portal I think it is likely he goes after someone who can play stretch 4/5 in case Banks isn’t ready for minutes.
Obviously another transfer would require 5 people leaving after that so 3 and D guy would be good assuming we aren’t empty behind X at point.
We basically have 5 seniors (all with one year of eligibility) plus TJD as a 6th who all will probably at least consider leaving. We have 3 recruits coming in so 3 must leave.
Personally I expect 1 of TJD and Race to leave. One of Stewart and Kopp to leave. And one of our 3 pgs to leave. We could get 1-2 more go but I doubt we lose more than 5.
Gotta think both PStew and Kopp are asked, if not voluntarily leave. They by this past seasons results are the most expendable to be replaced with more athletic achievers/overachievers with more varied aggressive offensive games. They were the under inflated tires during the season. Just how I see it.
I agree. Did not put up near the numbers I expected. I guess I just leave the possibility open in case we have a starting lineup something like X, Stewart, Galloway, Geronimo, and Race. Does Stewart perform better in an offense with 3-4 others spreading the floor and creating.
My overall thought to this years offense is that with two back to the basket bigs and 2 spot up shooters getting the majority of the minutes it was going to be tough to generate points except when TJD demanded constant double teams. If we have 1 spot up shooter and 1 back to the basket big who can also shoot some, does Stewart or Kopp perform better. A decision the player and Woody will have to make.
Guessing here...obviously I have no clue. But attempting to apply psychology, and logic, here's what I think each of our current guys are likely to do.
TJD...If playing in the NBA is still his main personal goal...I can't see any other decision than leaving IU for the draft. The only way he returns is if his NBA aspirations have changed, AND if he loves his IU life so much that he's willing to put his pro career on hold for another year to keep being a college kid. I can't fathom that happening. He's leaving.
Race...Combining the comments TJD made about Geronimo taking his spot over next year...and then him not only giving a speech on Senior night, but being very emotional about it...I can't envision how that could end up being flipped around, to where he comes back. And to your point about what his role would be if he did come back...you're right, he'd naturally be asked to be the "5" man. If Race has pro basketball aspirations, a season anchoring the post, guarding B10 type bigs, isn't going to help him in anyway. He'd need more perimeter play. And if I'm him, I know if I stay at IU, the gravity will be to pull me into the post as the 5. He's leaving.
Parker...Similar to Race...I can't envision him giving that Senior night speech. Getting the framed jersey. And coming back. Further, why did he talk and not Rob, Xavier, or Miller? To me, it most likely means he and Race were the only "seniors" that had made up their minds. The other 3, likely hadn't/haven't.
Xavier...Tough one here. One would have to know how much he's enjoying Woodson, and Bloomington. It seems to me that he's enjoying it. He's come on strong as the year has worn on, hopefully meaning he's becoming more comfortable in his role in Woody's program. He isn't really an obvious NBA prospect. I think with his grittiness, explosiveness, handle, he definitely will make money playing ball somewhere. If he loves IU, for him, Bloomington might be the best place to continue working on his game next year. My guess is he's back.
Miller...Not as tough...for me. I don't see him coming back. He knows JHS is coming in. He knows Trey will be fully healthy. He knows Jordan will play a bigger role. I could see him moving on and transferring somewhere else. Or just being done. Not sure what his academic plans are? Graduate school? I don't see a huge pro basketball future for him. But he could obviously find something overseas if he still wants to play ball. The only thing I could see with IU is if he is finishing a grad school type thing, and would want to be around Bloomington anyways. Maybe a Colin Hartman type situation. My guess is he's gone though.
Rob...Another one where it likely depends on how much he's enjoying Woody, and Bloomington. He might have a feeling of unfinished business, with all his injuries. He might want to prove to pro scouts (overseas mainly), that he can make it through an entire season without getting hurt...to maximize his value? I think in order for him to come back though, he'd have to believe he'd for sure have a big role in our regular rotation. And with X, JHS, Bates, Trey...I'm not sure he would be. I think one, and only one, of X and Rob will be back. And since I said I thought X would be above, I'll say Rob won't be. If that's true, I'd see him as a prime transfer portal candidate. And he'll probably show success wherever he goes, similar to Al Durham. And we'll be lamenting not having him this time next year.
Khristian...Don't know the kid at all. Haven't heard anything about how happy he is, or isn't. But I just can't imagine a former 5 star, top rated PG in his class...will stay with either X or Rob coming back, Bates likely to take a bigger role, and JHS coming in. I'll be very suprised if he comes back. I'll guess he's leaving.
Bates...Can't imagine he's overly happy with how this year played out. I worry a lot about this one. I know Cav thinks he's happy here. But man, I don't know. Again, 5 star kid...not getting a ton of playing time...behind guys that aren't very good themselves...I'm gonna guess he comes back, on promises that his role will expand. But it wouldn't shock me if he didn't.
Jordan...Similar to Bates, he can't be overly excited about his first 2 years at IU. But with TJD and Race leaving, he likely will see the opportunity ahead of him for major minutes for us next year. I think he'll be back.
Michael...Similar to Geronimo. Durr has to realize that IU presents a very unique, high major, opportunity for a lot of playing time. Unless he just doesn't like Woody, or Bloomington, I think he'll be back.
Duncomb...Same as Durr. And I doubt he's upset about not playing. He'll have a chance to play quite a bit. I think he'll be back.
Trey and Anthony...I think both of these kids are gonna be IU lifers. They'll both exhaust all their eligibility, and probably be fixtures in the program for years after that.
If I'm accurate, we'd be losing 5, and bringing in 3 freshman. We'd need an impact transfer that has some size. Either a big, or a long wing. If the Thiero kid is still an option, I'd love to see us sign him. If not, another main rotation level transfer, whatever the position.
I completely agree. Honestly I can absolutely see Race, TJD, Stewart and Kopp all moving on. And I think there is a pretty good chance I would say that X and Rob both return. Lander could be the surprise transfer if both senior pgs return. Especially with JHS coming in and not having to man point for us right away. No matter what though I think Woody will try hard not to let us lose more than 5.
This is another reason why the Franklin transfer hurt us. It would be nice to have a versatile wing coming back for his senior year.
I watched a couple of his LN games, including the Cathedral game...not sure on that call. Getting a slight Demezi vibe from those games. He got out "dogged" by the Cathedral studs. He had some nice shots, and made some plays...but those Cathedral kids had another gear.
I don't put losing to Cathedral anywhere near the same red flag category as I did with Landers team losing in their sectionals. But a kid that's less than a year away from making a huge impact at IU, doesn't usually let his high school team lose in the first rounds of their tournament. I'm sure it has happened. And I hope I'm wrong, obviously. We need his scoring punch for sure, as soon as possible!!!
Franklin and/or Durham, evidently. Could have used either one of them.
Hope we're not on here 1 year from today saying the same thing about whoever leaves here in a few weeks.
I don’t think we will be. Obviously TJD and Race will be big losses but overall probably help Woody get the type of offense he wants to play going. I think X and all the underclassmen (Except maybe Lander if X and Rob both come back) will return. I don’t know why Bates, Galloway or Geronimo would even consider leaving since they are all likely in line for starting jobs next year.
That sectional had 6 D1 players on it. He played both games without coming out. He’s also the tallest player on his team. Against cathedral the starting point guard was out due to illness.
Zero damezi in his game. I was there for both games. He’s the only reason it wasn’t a blowout.
Trey can't shoot 3's. I think Kopp is back in a reduced role.
I don't put a lot of stock into Cathedral beating LN. Cathedral is a much better team than LN this year after losing a ton of seniors last year and the Irish have 4-5 legit D1 kids on their roster. Gunn is/was a much better shooter than Damezi coming out of high school and played much stiffer competition. Gunn may not be a huge impact player next year but he'll contribute off the bench more than any of our freshman did this year.
If Kopp had consistently hit 3's this year, I might agree. As it was, Kopp wasn't a ton better than Trey was. Kopp is A LOT better shooter than Trey is, I'm sure. But if you don't show that in games...the rest of your game really should be scrutinized. And Miller isn't good at pretty much anything else.
Biggest problem with Kopp was his passiveness. He still hits at a respectable clip from 3 (37%) but passed up way to many shots this year in my opinion. He's out there for one reason and that's to stretch the floor. Have to shoot if that's the role you've been given.
I think JG development is hurt if he’s forced to play at the 4. Sure he can play at that spot but he could be an absolute nightmare at the 3. We need another 5 and really 1 more at the 4. Banks will be a nice stretch 4 at some point. Point guards will be ok. Trey really needs to develop a three point shot for this all to work. I wish Durr was a little quicker as he can hit jumpers. His defense is just ok.
The reference to Demezi was just that I didn't see the grit, or different gear that I saw from a couple of the Cathedral kids. Haven't seen enough of him to really know or make a comment on if he's a better overall player. I'll trust you guys on that. Was just floating some questions on whether he has the "alpha dog" type motor?! And I'm not referring to flexing and talking crap. I'm talking about digging in and dominating someone you should dominate.
I also mentioned that I didn't put the loss in the same category as Landers. Because of the talent he was facing. The premise of the discussion though was me responding to a poster that said he was going to overtake a former 5 star kid, with a year of B10 basketball under his belt. I would have expected THAT kid, to make more of an impact against Cathedral. Will Westfield beat Cathedral again, like they did earlier in the year? How much better a supporting cast does Braden Smith have than Gunn?
Trey absolutely needs to become an outside threat. Will be a big Achilles heal if he doesn’t.
I’d suggest watching the LN vs warren central game. I think Gunn is an alpha and untra confident in his offensive ability. He wants the ball in his hands.
He almost single handily beat Warren Central the night before and was being guarded by a legit D1 player most the night. I think he plays with a lot more fire and energy than Damezi did in high school if that's what you're hinting at?
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