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Stat of the day: TJD passes Bellamy and Henderson

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Trayce Jackson-Davis is the all-time leader in rebounding at Indiana University.

1096 by my count.

He passed Walt Bellamy and then Alan Henderson in a losing effort for IU vs Iowa.

Trayce paced IU in scoring (26), rebounding (13), blocks (1), assists (5), and steals (4) against Iowa despite the loss at home.
 
Props for Walt Bellamy. TJD accumulated his rebounds over 4 seasons. Likewise for Henderson. Bellamy accumunlated his over 3 seasons. Rebounds per career is a misleading stat. Rebounds per game is a far better measure of rebounding ability. Hence, Bellamy is IU's best rebounder, by far.

I thought about making the same arguement for total points. I thought that Don Schlundt was getting short changed. When I found Schlundt's record online, it indicated that he played 4 years. Can anyone enlighten me how he played 4 years in the early 1950's? I thought freshman were ineligible.
 
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Props for Walt Bellamy. TJD accumulated his rebounds over 4 seasons. Likewise for Henderson. Bellamy accumunlated his over 3 seasons. Rebounds per career is a misleading stat. Rebounds per game is a far better measure of rebounding ability. Hence, Bellamy is IU's best rebounder, by far.

I thought about making the same arguement for total points. I thoiught that Don Schlundt was getting short changed. When I found Schlundt's record online, it indicated that he played 4 years. Can anyone enlighten me how he played 4 years in the early 1950's? I thought freshman were ineligible.
Freshmen were allowed to play that year due to the Korean War.
 
Props for Walt Bellamy. TJD accumulated his rebounds over 4 seasons. Likewise for Henderson. Bellamy accumunlated his over 3 seasons. Rebounds per career is a misleading stat. Rebounds per game is a far better measure of rebounding ability. Hence, Bellamy is IU's best rebounder, by far.

I thought about making the same arguement for total points. I thought that Don Schlundt was getting short changed. When I found Schlundt's record online, it indicated that he played 4 years. Can anyone enlighten me how he played 4 years in the early 1950's? I thought freshman were ineligible.
Glad you pointed out that Bellamy accumulated his rebounds over 3 seasons, unlike Henderson & TJD who did it in 4 years. Not to take anything away from AH or TJD, they were great players players. I was going to point out Bellamy did it in 3 years but wasn't totally sure. My uncle that raised me was a big fan of his. I can remember as a little kid watching him & IU play . Rural TV wasn't that great then & we was on the far edge of Ch 4s viewing range so it was hit & miss.
 
They probably played fewer games back then, although TJD hasn't had the opportunity to play many postseason games.
 
Remember Bellamy well as our rural TV reception was marginally better. He was a vacuum cleaner on the boards. He was a big post player, truly man sized and well filled out. Like George was later on but a couple inches shorter. Still IU has had some powerful skillful post players over the years.
 
Alan Henderson - 124 games
Trace Jackson -Davis - 111 games so far
Walt Bellamy - 70 games.
I will always feel the Bellamy is the best rebounder at IU. Same for Maravich playing 60 less games than Antoine Davis for all time scoring. It will need an asterick by Davis' name. A 44 point average a game for 3 year career with no 3 pointers or time clock is simply amazing. Unfortunately if Henderson hadn't gone down with knee injury,IU would have another banner.
 
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I will always feel the Bellamy is the best rebounder at IU. Same for Maravich playing 60 less games than Antoine Davis for all time scoring. It will need an asterick by Davis' name. A 44 point average a game for 3 year career with no 3 pointers or time clock is simply amazing. Unfortunately if Henderson hadn't gone down with knee injury,IU would have another banner.

I agree Bellamy was probably our best rebounder ever. But, to put matters in better perspective, we do need to keep in mind that in those days there were more rebounds to be had. As an example, Jerry Lucas averaged 17.2 rebounds over his career, which was from '60-'62, whereas Walt averaged 15.5.

I always thought Lucas had the best career of any BT basketball player ever. He was 6'8" and 230 lbs. For his career, he shot .624 from the field, .777 from the line, and averaged 24.3 points and 17.2 rebounds. Now, again, there were more points scored in those days......so those #s might translate to something like 20/13 these days. But he played on a team that won 3 BTCs and probably could have won 3 NCs, and he was the best player on that team. Bellamy, , 6'11" 250 lbs, who was undoubtedly a great player, and who had a better NBA career, averaged 20.6/15.5 while shooting .517/.654.

I read a lengthy article once about Lucas that was really interesting. He was a brilliant, somewhat eccentric, guy. What I remember most was what he said about blocking out. He said coach Taylor would talk to him about blocking out and he never paid much attention. He said instead he studied angles of where the shot came from and would then just camp out at the most productive spot and collect the rebounds.

One other thing about that era.............the 1959-60 IU team was a truly great team that no one knows about. OSU that year went 13-1 and 25-3 and won the NC. IU was 2nd in the BT and went 11-3 and 2-4 overall. Their losses were by 4 pts at MO, by 3 at W. Lafayette, by 4 at Northwestern, and by 1 (96-95) at OSU. In the return game in Bloomington, IU won by 99-83. And that team never played in the NCAA tourney. At that time, only conference champions went.
 
My brother was at IU and saw games in that 1959-60 season. He told me about the win over OSU. It was a shame that team was not allowed to compete in the NCAA tourney

I worked with someone who lived in the same dorm as Bellamy. He saw Bellamy saunter down the hall, stop at the coke machine, and then asked my friend if he could "borrow" a quarter. My friend gave him one and knew he would never get it back.
 
Walt Bellamy has for a ong time been criminally underrated and overlooked with respect to his IU career. A solid basketball HOF-er, like Isiah and George.
 
Walt Bellamy has for a ong time been criminally underrated and overlooked with respect to his IU career. A solid basketball HOF-er, like Isiah and George.
I don't know if he just wasn't inspired for some games, but his stats were not always good. The same in the NBA. I remember with Atlanta he was a big fan favorite when he was on a roll, but it didn't last.
 
One other thing about that era.............the 1959-60 IU team was a truly great team that no one knows about. OSU that year went 13-1 and 25-3 and won the NC. IU was 2nd in the BT and went 11-3 and 2-4 overall. Their losses were by 4 pts at MO, by 3 at W. Lafayette, by 4 at Northwestern, and by 1 (96-95) at OSU.
All 3 B1G losses came early in the season when Branch was using man-to-man as his base defense. After he switched to a zone, the team was almost unbeatable. IU gave away the game at OSU via a late game turnover. The pasting they gave OSU in Bloomington was immensely satisfying. Wasn't 1959-1960 the year Lucas and company won the NC?
 
My brother was at IU and saw games in that 1959-60 season. He told me about the win over OSU. It was a shame that team was not allowed to compete in the NCAA tourney

I worked with someone who lived in the same dorm as Bellamy. He saw Bellamy saunter down the hall, stop at the coke machine, and then asked my friend if he could "borrow" a quarter. My friend gave him one and knew he would never get it back.
He only played about 23 games a year and obviously most of them were in the Big 10. Bellamy did not get to play an additional 10 games each year against cupcakes to build up his stats.
 
I will always feel the Bellamy is the best rebounder at IU. Same for Maravich playing 60 less games than Antoine Davis for all time scoring. It will need an asterick by Davis' name. A 44 point average a game for 3 year career with no 3 pointers or time clock is simply amazing. Unfortunately if Henderson hadn't gone down with knee injury,IU would have another banner.
Think how many more points Maravich would have scored if the other team was forced to take shots? It would mean more posessions.
 
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Props for Walt Bellamy. TJD accumulated his rebounds over 4 seasons. Likewise for Henderson. Bellamy accumunlated his over 3 seasons. Rebounds per career is a misleading stat. Rebounds per game is a far better measure of rebounding ability. Hence, Bellamy is IU's best rebounder, by far.

I thought about making the same arguement for total points. I thought that Don Schlundt was getting short changed. When I found Schlundt's record online, it indicated that he played 4 years. Can anyone enlighten me how he played 4 years in the early 1950's? I thought freshman were ineligible.
i was thinking the same thing. in addition, in Bellamy's time only the big Ten Champion went to the Ncaa Tournament, and I don't recall Big Ten teams going to the Nit. I also recall that the regular schedule contained far fewer games. Season Play didn't start until the first week of December with Conference Play starting around January 1. Those teams probably had regular season schedules of approximately 25 games. That is why the per game average is a more meanginful stat for comparison.
 
i was thinking the same thing. in addition, in Bellamy's time only the big Ten Champion went to the Ncaa Tournament, and I don't recall Big Ten teams going to the Nit. I also recall that the regular schedule contained far fewer games. Season Play didn't start until the first week of December with Conference Play starting around January 1. Those teams probably had regular season schedules of approximately 25 games. That is why the per game average is a more meanginful stat for comparison.

were we playing everyone in the B10 home and home then?

no extended non conf schedule of the Northwest Illinois Institute Moline Annex schools back then.

20 wins in a season was an achievement.
 
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