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Schumer threat of violence

dbmhoosier said:
Yes but no
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I agree, but only after those in the administration and the office holders who aide and abetted the Jan. 6 riot are charged.

All, on both sides, who promote violence should be held accountable.

Yeah, right.
 
IUINSB said:
I agree, but only after those in the administration and the office holders who aide and abetted the Jan. 6 riot are charged.

All, on both sides, who promote violence should be held accountable.

Yeah, right.
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You really believe people in the Administration worked with the Proud Boys?
 
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nawsmith said:
Watch something other than the bullshit spread by Fox misinformation. Again get your head out of your rear.
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Still drinking the kool-aid from MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CNS, ABC You actually need to watch those and NEWSMAX and FOX then make your decision. You only watch one side then you only receive one side. Misinformation is rampant on state run TV and conservative stations. You have to decide what you believe. The prime time shows on all those stations are questionable depending on the event.
 
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sku said:
Still drinking the kool-aid from MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CNS, ABC You actually need to watch those and NEWSMAX and FOX then make your decision. You only watch one side then you only receive one side. Misinformation is rampant on state run TV and conservative stations. You have to decide what you believe. The prime time shows on all those stations are questionable depending on the event.
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Just give me John King and his maps
 
Zeester said:
Right LOL, facts please.
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The dumb shit has no facts. I bet he got facts from demented Joe and Jimmy Kimmel last night. Putin Putin Putin and Bad Republicans. Love how Kimmel kept referring to “we” democrats. Lol
 
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stollcpa said:
Should he be charged?

www.newsweek.com

Schumer Telling Brett Kavanaugh He'll 'Pay the Price' for Roe Resurfaces

Conservatives criticized Schumer over his 2020 remarks on Wednesday after an armed man was arrested outside the Supreme Court justice's home in Maryland.
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You are going to get nothing but no's from this board but in the real non fake message board world tons would say yes. Just like the liberal looking to kill kavanaugh it's barely mentioned in the left wing news but if it was a liberal justice it would be nonstop 24/7 news and the we would be told the guy is a righ wing exstremist, etc. Bowlmania and his merry band of leftists would be beating the drum nonstop about it. They would try to tie it to trump and just be losing their minds. But bowlmania and his leftist crew will pivot to 01/06 tomorrow and go on 24/7 rampages about how Trump needs to be locked up, etc. Bank it. Oh and they will tell us how democracy is at stake. Meanwhile in the real world gas is 5 bucks and inflation at 45 year highs.
 
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sku said:
Still drinking the kool-aid from MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CNS, ABC You actually need to watch those and NEWSMAX and FOX then make your decision. You only watch one side then you only receive one side. Misinformation is rampant on state run TV and conservative stations. You have to decide what you believe. The prime time shows on all those stations are questionable depending on the event.
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www.businessinsider.com

STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

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bailey777 said:
You are going to get nothing but no's from this board but in the real non fake message board world tons would say yes. Just like the liberal looking to kill kavanaugh it's barely mentioned in the left wing news but if it was a liberal justice it would be nonstop 24/7 news and the we would be told the guy is a righ wing exstremist, etc. Bowlmania and his merry band of leftists would be beating the drum nonstop about it. They would try to tie it to trump and just be losing their minds. But bowlmania and his leftist crew will pivot to 01/06 tomorrow and go on 24/7 rampages about how Trump needs to be locked up, etc. Bank it. Oh and they will tell us how democracy is at stake. Meanwhile in the real world gas is 5 bucks and inflation at 45 year highs.
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Are you in the finals for most ridiculous poster on this forum now that Indianaftw has been suspended? You might win in a TKO.

BTW, the first I heard of this yesterday was as a breaking news alert from leftist media sources that you claim aren't mentioning it....other than sending texts/emails/tweets about it as soon as they found out.
 
bailey777 said:
You are going to get nothing but no's from this board but in the real non fake message board world tons would say yes. Just like the liberal looking to kill kavanaugh it's barely mentioned in the left wing news but if it was a liberal justice it would be nonstop 24/7 news and the we would be told the guy is a righ wing exstremist, etc. Bowlmania and his merry band of leftists would be beating the drum nonstop about it. They would try to tie it to trump and just be losing their minds. But bowlmania and his leftist crew will pivot to 01/06 tomorrow and go on 24/7 rampages about how Trump needs to be locked up, etc. Bank it. Oh and they will tell us how democracy is at stake. Meanwhile in the real world gas is 5 bucks and inflation at 45 year highs.
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Typical GOP victimhood post.
 
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kraft cheese+macaroni said:
Are you in the finals for most ridiculous poster on this forum now that Indianaftw has been suspended? You might win in a TKO.

BTW, the first I heard of this yesterday was as a breaking news alert from leftist media sources that you claim aren't mentioning it....other than sending texts/emails/tweets about it as soon as they found out.
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Yep. I wasn't watching tv, so the first I heard of it was this piece from MSNBC, which 77 is ignorantly claiming the mainstream ignored.



bailey777 said:
You are going to get nothing but no's from this board but in the real non fake message board world tons would say yes. Just like the liberal looking to kill kavanaugh it's barely mentioned in the left wing news but if it was a liberal justice it would be nonstop 24/7 news and the we would be told the guy is a righ wing exstremist, etc. Bowlmania and his merry band of leftists would be beating the drum nonstop about it. They would try to tie it to trump and just be losing their minds. But bowlmania and his leftist crew will pivot to 01/06 tomorrow and go on 24/7 rampages about how Trump needs to be locked up, etc. Bank it. Oh and they will tell us how democracy is at stake. Meanwhile in the real world gas is 5 bucks and inflation at 45 year highs.
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So first off let's look at what actual left wing sources were saying about Kavanaugh's attempted "assassination"...

Now 77 assuming you know what hypocrisy means... Can you explain why people on your side are arguing that gun legislation in the wake of Uvalde (where 22 were killed horribly) is "political", but the same people (in this case Moscow Mitch) turn around and DEMAND legislation after a single wacko is arrested after THREATENING to kill a single person...

This video points out a lot of hypocrisy from your side just comparing the two events, and I doubt someone more intelligent than you would even be able to explain any of it.





We've got a vocal minority on this board who try to claim that it's somehow the left that is ultra radicalized, when as the video points out the majority of mass killings come from the right wing extremists who adhere to "replacement theory" and other racist dogma.

Meanwhile ELECTED Republicans trade in conspiracy theories, and make ridiculous claims about mass shootings being "false flag operations" designed to rev up gun control and "steal your weapons"...





MTG's been at it a long time, dating back to Parkland...

 
TheOriginalHappyGoat said:
Charged for what, exactly?
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I don't know where he made the statement.

Had it been Indiana, it would imo be sufficient probable cause for Intimidation. He's communicating a "threat" as that word is defined in Indiana law with specific prohibited intent. Which is a serious felony if the threat is communicated to a judicial officer.

I grant you that a low % of statements of intimidating nature are actually charged.........especially statements relating to underlying political topics. But remember what Joe told us.....the 1st amendment is not absolute..........
 
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mushroomgod_1 said:
I don't know where he made the statement.

Had it been Indiana, it would imo be sufficient probable cause for Intimidation. He's communicating a "threat" as that word is defined in Indiana law with specific prohibited intent. Which is a serious felony if the threat is communicated to a judicial officer.

I grant you that a low % of statements of intimidating nature are actually charged.........especially statements relating to underlying political topics. But remember what Joe told us.....the 1st amendment is not absolute..........
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I am in no way a lawyer, but I believe I saw a video from a lawyer a year ago talking about the Chicago 8 trial. IIRC, in order to prove incitement to riot / violence, the statement had to be promoting said violent action imminently. The video was a crossways look at the Chicago 8 compared to Trumps Jan 6 speech.

If I am remembering that correctly, then I doubt this meets the legal requirement since Schumers statement was made back in 2020.
 
bailey777 said:
You are going to get nothing but no's from this board but in the real non fake message board world tons would say yes.
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Prior to your post there were six posters saying yes and five were saying no.
It's not quite the echo chamber you think.

Well, unless you count length of the posts. Then Cosmic's side wins easily.
 
mushroomgod_1 said:
I don't know where he made the statement.

Had it been Indiana, it would imo be sufficient probable cause for Intimidation. He's communicating a "threat" as that word is defined in Indiana law with specific prohibited intent. Which is a serious felony if the threat is communicated to a judicial officer.

I grant you that a low % of statements of intimidating nature are actually charged.....
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He shouldn't have said it and he even realized that, walking it back the following day. That doesn't make it right, but would probably take the heat off in terms of an intimidation charge. Did DJT ever walk back any of his hateful rhetoric?
 
what a dumb fking thread...

Y'all need to get out more and quit reading entertainment rube outrage news. Also, there's this thing called soap. Try it ......... please.
 
It is obvious that the Dims have unleashed an army of Manchurian Murderers to commit mass shootings and other acts of pro-gun control and pro-abortion terror.

Shame on them and their True Flag Ops.
 
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SqueakyClean said:
I am in no way a lawyer, but I believe I saw a video from a lawyer a year ago talking about the Chicago 8 trial. IIRC, in order to prove incitement to riot / violence, the statement had to be promoting said violent action imminently. The video was a crossways look at the Chicago 8 compared to Trumps Jan 6 speech.

If I am remembering that correctly, then I doubt this meets the legal requirement since Schumers statement was made back in 2020.
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Those are entirely different charges. The Indiana Intimidation statute requires communicating a threat with the intent that the other person will engage in conduct against their will or be placed in fear of retaliation for a prior lawful act. I'd say the intent element is covered.

What about "threat"? One definition of threat is "expose the person threatened to hatred, contempt, disgrace, or ridicule" Another is "unlawfully injure the person threatened or another person, or damage property."

Now here's what he said: "I...tell YOU, Gorsuch. I...tell YOU, Kavanaugh, you RELEASED THE WHIRLWIND and YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE. You WON"T KNOW what HIT you IF you GO FORWARD WITH THESE AWFUL DECISIONS".

As I mentioned earlier, intimidation of a JUDGE raises the level of the charge significantly.

Now the question is, what does "release the whirlwind" mean? It certainly appears to mean making past decisions that Chuckie did not like. What does "pay the price" mean? Well, in this context, imo, it means, at a minimum, nasty ass protesters continuous screaming profanities outside your house and verbally threatening you and your family. And getting the Maxine Watters treatment of similar harassment at public functions. That is...releasing the mob. I'm sure this is what Chuckie had in mind, but it could also mean an attempted assassination or a molotov cocktail or two thrown at his house. Which would be collateral damage. You have to break eggs to make an omelette.

So I think there is probable cause, if the relevant jurisdiction wished to pursue it. There is wide latitude for political speech, so it won't happen, but that would have to be raised as a defense. As Joe told us, the 1st amendment is not absolute.

I'll say one other thing........if a private person had said exactly the same thing that Chuckie said exactly the same way, he could expect at least a visit from the FBI. It was an incredibly reckless thing to say.
 
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mushroomgod_1 said:
Those are entirely different charges. The Indiana Intimidation statute requires communicating a threat with the intent that the other person will engage in conduct against their will or be placed in fear of retaliation for a prior lawful act. I'd say the intent element is covered.

What about "threat"? One definition of threat is "expose the person threatened to hatred, contempt, disgrace, or ridicule" Another is "unlawfully injure the person threatened or another person, or damage property."

Now here's what he said: "I...tell YOU, Gorsuch. I...tell YOU, Kavanaugh, you RELEASED THE WHIRLWIND and YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE. You WON"T KNOW what HIT you IF you GO FORWARD WITH THESE AWFUL DECISIONS".

As I mentioned earlier, intimidation of a JUDGE raises the level of the charge significantly.

Now the question is, what does "release the whirlwind" mean? It certainly appears to mean making past decisions that Chuckie did not like. What does "pay the price" mean? Well, in this context, imo, it means, at a minimum, nasty ass protesters continuous screaming profanities outside your house and verbally threatening you and your family. And getting the Maxine Watters treatment of similar harassment at public functions. That is...releasing the mob. I'm sure this is what Chuckie had in mind, but it could also mean an attempted assassination or a molotov cocktail or two thrown at his house. Which would be collateral damage. You have to break eggs to make an omelette.

So I think there is probable cause, if the relevant jurisdiction wished to pursue it. There is wide latitude for political speech, so it won't happen, but that would have to be raised as a defense. As Joe told us, the 1st amendment is not absolute.

I'll say one other thing........if a private person had said exactly the same thing that Chuckie said exactly the same way, he could expect at least a visit from the FBI. It was an incredibly reckless thing to say.
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Except didn't he walk it back the very next day?
 
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MyTeamIsOnTheFloor said:
Klan tactics

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Here's a 'whatabout' for you....I don't condone either. At all.

Anti-choice extremists use threats of violence, vandalism, harassment and intimidation to endanger the lives and safety of abortion providers and their patients across America.

Anti-choice zealots murdered 11 people—including doctors, clinic employees, a clinic escort, a security guard and a police officer—between 1993 and 2016. There were 26 attempted murders in the same period.1

Abortion providers and patients have been the targets of:

  • Murder
  • Bombings
  • Arson
  • Death threats
  • Kidnapping
  • Assault
  • Harassing phone calls
  • Stalking
  • Vandalism
Between 1977 and 2015, anti-choice extremists directed more than 7,200 reported acts of violence at abortion providers. This included 42 bombings, 185 arson attacks, and thousands of death threats, bioterrorism threats and assaults. In addition, more than 234,300 acts of disruption were reported, including bomb threats, hate mail and harassing calls.2 The rate of violence and intimidation has skyrocketed since July 2015, when an anti-choice organization—The Center for Medical Progress—released now-discredited, highly edited and incendiary videos in an attempt to smear Planned Parenthood.

https://prochoicecalifornia.org/issues/anti-abortion-violence/
 
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kraft cheese+macaroni said:
Here's a 'whatabout' for you....I don't condone either. At all.

Anti-choice extremists use threats of violence, vandalism, harassment and intimidation to endanger the lives and safety of abortion providers and their patients across America.

Anti-choice zealots murdered 11 people—including doctors, clinic employees, a clinic escort, a security guard and a police officer—between 1993 and 2016. There were 26 attempted murders in the same period.1

Abortion providers and patients have been the targets of:

  • Murder
  • Bombings
  • Arson
  • Death threats
  • Kidnapping
  • Assault
  • Harassing phone calls
  • Stalking
  • Vandalism
Between 1977 and 2015, anti-choice extremists directed more than 7,200 reported acts of violence at abortion providers. This included 42 bombings, 185 arson attacks, and thousands of death threats, bioterrorism threats and assaults. In addition, more than 234,300 acts of disruption were reported, including bomb threats, hate mail and harassing calls.2 The rate of violence and intimidation has skyrocketed since July 2015, when an anti-choice organization—The Center for Medical Progress—released now-discredited, highly edited and incendiary videos in an attempt to smear Planned Parenthood.

https://prochoicecalifornia.org/issues/anti-abortion-violence/
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You forgot the obligatory leftist Trump reference…
 
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