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Saw Joe Hillman tonight at dinner

Edwards and Jones were freshmen on that team. Nikki Mallory was the starting PG and they had a big dude in the middle whose name escapes me. Looked it up and it was Jay Teagle at center.

It was Southridge

And it was Shortridge that beat L&M. I didn't notice Southridge when I replied
Anderson , my school was runner up to Marion. Thought they played L and M. Wonder who it was. Can’t find complete list on google
 
haven't lived in Indiana for a few decades now.... completely out of the HS BBall scene now. Does Muncie Central still compete for state championships or is that ancient history now?? I remember their championship in '88 with Chandler Thompson.
 
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Was it Hillman or Oliphant that had the legendary games of Horse with Alford? Or Both? I know Oliphant only played 1 year with him, but for some reason his name popped into my head when thinking of those HORSE stories.
Oliphant. Most HORSE contests ended with them shooting from the bleachers. Never saw video of them but heard several stories as such.
 
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haven't lived in Indiana for a few decades now.... completely out of the HS BBall scene now. Does Muncie Central still compete for state championships or is that ancient history now?? I remember their championship in '88 with Chandler Thompson.

Anderson beat Muncie Central this year in the sectional which I believe might have been held at Greenfield-Central. Muncie finished up 4-19 for the year which was an improvement over last year when they were 0-22.

Chandler Thompson is now the coach.
 
Anderson beat Muncie Central this year in the sectional which I believe might have been held at Greenfield-Central. Muncie finished up 4-19 for the year which was an improvement over last year when they were 0-22.

Chandler Thompson is now the coach
 
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88 Chandler was a really good player but Concord's coach was horrible. Kemp was a much better talent and loose. 2 yrs later Concord comes in with a better all around team and have a big lead against Damon Bailey and manage to blow that game. If Concord had a decent coach they win 88 and 90 undefeated.
 
88 Chandler was a really good player but Concord's coach was horrible. Kemp was a much better talent and loose. 2 yrs later Concord comes in with a better all around team and have a big lead against Damon Bailey and manage to blow that game. If Concord had a decent coach they win 88 and 90 undefeated.
loose or lost, damn trumpfish you get on me
 
88 Chandler was a really good player but Concord's coach was horrible. Kemp was a much better talent and loose. 2 yrs later Concord comes in with a better all around team and have a big lead against Damon Bailey and manage to blow that game. If Concord had a decent coach they win 88 and 90 undefeated.
Didn't Bailey shoot 20+ FT's?
 
Didn't Bailey shoot 20+ FT's?
I think and hey just brought it up and scored and Concord should have been running clock but didn't game was won. Kemp shouldve scored 30+ in HS , there was no one that could compete physically with him. Likely the best just pure physically gifted talent ever to come from Indiana
 
I think and hey just brought it up and scored and Concord should have been running clock but didn't game was won. Kemp shouldve scored 30+ in HS , there was no one that could compete physically with him. Likely the best just pure physically gifted talent ever to come from Indiana
I love showing people clips of him to people who never saw him in high school. The reaction is usually WTF.

Dude was a freak.
 
I love showing people clips of him to people who never saw him in high school. The reaction is usually WTF.

Dude was a freak.
We all knew who he was , he was on the freshman football team as a receiver. Can you even imaging , he was 6-9 then I never really heard of how he did but that had to be scary. He was so under utilized and he is who he is , everyone doesnt have the drive of a Bird or Jordan but when he was? I think he averaged like low 20s a game ? Who the hell was going to stop him? yeah Fox a cpl games a yr was competitive but as a freshman there were probably NBA guys that would've had problems one on one if Shawn wanted to bring it. I mowed grass for the guy that was his 5th and 6th grade coach in summers and he would say you aren't going to believe this kid. His sister was in my class and I knew her and back in one class she probably couldve given a lot of small school guys troubles. RMK there for a practice, coaches showing up from all over. Everyone knew he was getting some help so he could play and in his case maybe done better on some things but everyone just knew. I remember my sr yr and from day one this kid is 10-15 inches taller than anyone. I can't imagine some of the pressure he had to feel.
 
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what have I ever done to you, I'm not a asshole
Ha , well and whatever have I done to you? Your wasted posts are amusing and give you credit for bravery . I bet we can find a lot of people to disagree on the last part of your post. Likely your wife on Saturday nights as the first.
 
I think and hey just brought it up and scored and Concord should have been running clock but didn't game was won. Kemp shouldve scored 30+ in HS , there was no one that could compete physically with him. Likely the best just pure physically gifted talent ever to come from Indiana
Alan Henderson was a helluva player, I remember watching the state final game against Big Dog, Thought after the game Alan was overrated, I was wrong Robinson was just that much better than everyone else.
 
Ha , well and whatever have I done to you? Your wasted posts are amusing and give you credit for bravery . I bet we can find a lot of people to disagree on the last part of your post. Likely your wife on Saturday nights as the first.
you take shots at me all the time, but that's ok, just don't think calling me a asshole is necessary
 
Alan Henderson was a helluva player, I remember watching the state final game against Big Dog, Thought after the game Alan was overrated, I was wrong Robinson was just that much better than everyone else.
Henderson may have had a better overall NBA career over the yrs that Robinson not sure. I know he played a lot longer than most Knight guys. Robinson was a great player. Henderson likely toughened up at IU where Robinson already had more of that. In my opinion and biased, Kemp was just on another level . He is doing OK it seems. His sister did some time, bad decisions . His athletic skills were just so much better than almost anyone else. Prime all out Robinson vs Kemp , not even close but the drive. Funny I spent over a month at Shawn's old estate clearing a woods that got hit by a tornado last fall. It is a nice place and land and a gate and all but not what you would expect.
 
Henderson may have had a better overall NBA career over the yrs that Robinson not sure. I know he played a lot longer than most Knight guys. Robinson was a great player. Henderson likely toughened up at IU where Robinson already had more of that. In my opinion and biased, Kemp was just on another level . He is doing OK it seems. His sister did some time, bad decisions . His athletic skills were just so much better than almost anyone else. Prime all out Robinson vs Kemp , not even close but the drive. Funny I spent over a month at Shawn's old estate clearing a woods that got hit by a tornado last fall. It is a nice place and land and a gate and all but not what you would expect.
Robinson had a way better NBA career than Henderson, he made several all-star teams. Henderson was solid and hung around for several years

Kemp vs Robinson to me is debatable , Kemp probably the best high school athlete I've ever seen, but Robinson was a basketball player , If I was starting a team with both as seniors Id take Robinson but that's just my opinion.
 
Naas was the big guy.
Southridge was loaded. FF two years in a row. The Patbergs had good careers at Hanover and another kid ( their best player, name escapes me at the moment) was a very good player at Rose Hulman. They were also extremely well coached (Gary Duncan). Both Southridge and L&M were ridiculously good for a couple of years in the early-mid '80's.
 
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Didn't Bailey shoot 20+ FT's?
I'm sure he did. Damon was a phenomenal player, but he got more help from officials than any high school player I ever saw. It was like Jordan in the NBA - if he missed, a foul call was coming from somewhere. If charging had been called against Damon the way it was for every other player in the state, he would have been in foul trouble every game. It was pretty frustrating for opposing coaches, because Damon definitely didn't need the help.

In the state finals Damon's soph. or junior year Tom May, who was one of the best officials in the state ( and simultaneously was the coach of a state championship girls' team at Crown Point) had the audacity to call a couple of critical fouls (which were legit) on him. Danny Bush (the Bedford coach) is still bitching to this day I'm sure that Damon was singled out and treated unfairly. Quite the irony for those of us who had the experience of playing Bedford at Bedford in that era.
 
Robinson had a way better NBA career than Henderson, he made several all-star teams. Henderson was solid and hung around for several years

Kemp vs Robinson to me is debatable , Kemp probably the best high school athlete I've ever seen, but Robinson was a basketball player , If I was starting a team with both as seniors Id take Robinson but that's just my opinion.
I dont remember Robinson or Henderson in NBA to be honest. Kemp was failed early on by coaching is my opinion. He was just a freak so early on and I think people may have been afraid a little bit? Concord was at the time a school with no athletic dept, known for a marching band that traveled the whole US and here this kid shows up . His freshman yr out or 11-1200 students there and maybe 40-50 were black and I'm being generous . As I remember at least everyone got along so it wasn't that but the city schools had people offering money we all heard. I mean he could coast to 22 pts . They lived in apartment complex so moving wasnt a big deal if they had wanted. I had a cpl friends that lived there and his older sister used to hitch a ride to school with us sometimes as I had a car . I just think he could have done so much more and yeah best HS athlete ? No question.
 
I'm sure he did. Damon was a phenomenal player, but he got more help from officials than any high school player I ever saw. It was like Jordan in the NBA - if he missed, a foul call was coming from somewhere. If charging had been called against Damon the way it was for every other player in the state, he would have been in foul trouble every game. It was pretty frustrating for opposing coaches, because Damon definitely didn't need the help.

In the state finals Damon's soph. or junior year Tom May, who was one of the best officials in the state ( and simultaneously was the coach of a state championship girls' team at Crown Point) had the audacity to call a couple of critical fouls (which were legit) on him. Danny Bush (the Bedford coach) is still bitching to this day I'm sure that Damon was singled out and treated unfairly. Quite the irony for those of us who had the experience of playing Bedford at Bedford in that era.
I am sure there were but at 6-4 Damon knew how to play and he could basically just flat out dominate almost anyone . His rep helped but he knew how to play. Just adding as been talking about Kemp imagine him playing like Bailey did at 6-11? But everyone is different.
 
Southridge was loaded. FF two years in a row. The Patbergs had good careers at Hanover and another kid ( their best player, name escapes me at the moment) was a very good player at Rose Hulman. They were also extremely well coached (Gary Duncan). Both Southridge and L&M were ridiculously good for a couple of years in the early-mid '80's.
Jochem and Roesner were the other 2 starters. Jasper had them beat in the sectional, but a terrible charging call reversed a 3 point play, and Southridge went on to win 55-53. I hate class basketball.
 
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No. I think Joe did.
Yeah, some guy in Hancock county was running a book and Hillman was one of a dozen or so that was named in the court filings. No idea how it ever turned out though. It might still be underway. It was just a couple of years ago.
 
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Yeah, some guy in Hancock county was running a book and Hillman was one of a dozen or so that was named in the court filings. No idea how it ever turned out though. It might still be underway. It was just a couple of years ago.
Yes, I think he was arrested with cash in hand.
 
It's still illegal to place bets through an unlicensed book as far as I know.
Yes, but the state cracked down on these establishments (raids) right before/after they legalized gambling on games. The state wanted all of the cut, and after looking away from this for 50 years, came down hard to run these bookies out. All about the tax $$.. You want to portray Hillman as a serious criminal, and he is not.
 
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