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Saw Joe Hillman tonight at dinner

Still one of my favorites if not favorite. Scored 40+ ppg in HS; changed his game entirely under Knight. The definition of effort - undersized but fought for every rebound in site - just loved his game. (Probably good to give him peace as he probably gets bugged a lot!)
 
Still one of my favorites if not favorite. Scored 40+ ppg in HS; changed his game entirely under Knight. The definition of effort - undersized but fought for every rebound in site - just loved his game. (Probably good to give him peace as he probably gets bugged a lot!)
joe hillman wouldn't be bothered in public except for by hard core iu fans over 50
 
I probably told this already but took a basketball referee class at IU with Joe. 7:30 am class. Joe was in his 5th year.
I looked a lot like Joe in college and same height. He probably had 5-10 lbs on me. I played against him several times at the HPER, and never had to guard someone so far from the basket. He wasn't a shooter in games, but he could light it up at the HPER out to NBA range. Loved trying to cover him.

We had a guy in our dorm from CA who had played against Joe in HS and he did a serious double take when he came walking in to a mutual friend's room. For some reason, he thought I was doing a bong hit at the time, and thought I was Joe.
 
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I looked a lot like Joe in college and same height. He probably had 5-10 lbs on me. I played against him several times at the HPER, and never had to guard someone so far from the basket. He wasn't a shooter in games, but he could light it up at the HPER out to NBA range. Loved trying to cover him.

We had a guy in our dorm from CA who had played against Joe in HS and he did a serious double take when he came walking in to a mutual friend's room. For some reason, he thought I was doing a bong hit at the time, and thought I was Joe.
that's interesting, lucy used to get confused for Granville Waiters back in the day
 
Dope. You wouldn't know Joe Hillman even if he came up and slapped your drunk ass across the face.
More than likely kurt was so smashed he probably thought he saw the van arsdale twins as well. Its called delusionals of grandeur. Being smashed most of your life will lead to confusion and imaginary visions that do not exist. I only hope drunk kurt did not go up to the fake hillman and make a total fool of himself. But he probably did.
 
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sober or smashed... in the little time I've been on this site I've noticed many might make more sense smashed
 
More than likely kurt was so smashed he probably thought he saw the van arsdale twins as well. Its called delusionals of grandeur. Being smashed most of your life will lead to confusion and imaginary visions that do not exist. I only hope drunk kurt did not go up to the fake hillman and make a total fool of himself. But he probably did.
what in the hell are you talking about
 
Was it Hillman or Oliphant that had the legendary games of Horse with Alford? Or Both? I know Oliphant only played 1 year with him, but for some reason his name popped into my head when thinking of those HORSE stories.
 
Was it Hillman or Oliphant that had the legendary games of Horse with Alford? Or Both? I know Oliphant only played 1 year with him, but for some reason his name popped into my head when thinking of those HORSE stories.
Oliphant, I think they old announcer told that story every time Jeff would come in for mop up minutes
 
Was it Hillman or Oliphant that had the legendary games of Horse with Alford? Or Both? I know Oliphant only played 1 year with him, but for some reason his name popped into my head when thinking of those HORSE stories.
Oliphant! When I was in Elementary school during the summer I went to Christian camp up by dyer elementary and for the last month of the summer we did the olympics. And competed against other camps in about 20 different events we had four coaches Jeff Oliphant Steve Ely and two lady’s from the swimming team I can’t remember their names. But a couple of times throughout the month they brought different people in and Alford was one of them and they talked about playing Horse at the end of almost every practice and Alford rarely won! Still one of my favorite childhood memories!
 
Oliphant, I think they old announcer told that story every time Jeff would come in for mop up minutes
Oliphant had a few good games in him. He wasn't a total flop by any means. He was built thick and solid. Running in into him has been compared to running into that of a shit-house made of bricks. Jeff made the sacrifice. He remains a Hoosier. When we laugh at him we laugh at ourselves, knowing we couldn't do it any better and that's why it's all meant in fun.

I run across that Oliphant name here and there in southern Indiana and always wonder if one might be a relative of his. The Oliphant seed appears to be of good scatter, disseminating as it has across Southern Indiana's Norman Upland and Mitchell Karst Plain, continuing westward through the Crawford Upland.

I'm sure he's heard his share of elephant jokes through the years...Oliphant, the elephant at Halloween and "Hey, Oli, what'cha doing?"... things that might scar a psyche into the later years. I mean, he seemed pretty easy going during his time here so I imagine he's survived the taunts that continue to this day.
 
Oliphant, I think they old announcer told that story every time Jeff would come in for mop up minutes
That was a great story tiny L&M with like 130 kids in the school. Jeff went to IU Tony Patterson went to Purdue and they had another really good kid. Sports illustrated did an article on them I think ESPN was there for a game. They were ranked like 1 or 2 that 84-85 season. Couldve been a great story and was actually. Ended up losing in semi state finals that yr. I think Jeff had a lot of injuries at IU.
 
Oliphant had a few good games in him. He wasn't a total flop by any means. He was built thick and solid. Running in into him has been compared to running into that of a shit-house made of bricks. Jeff made the sacrifice. He remains a Hoosier. When we laugh at him we laugh at ourselves, knowing we couldn't do it any better and that's why it's all meant in fun.

I run across that Oliphant name here and there in southern Indiana and always wonder if one might be a relative of his. The Oliphant seed appears to be of good scatter, disseminating as it has across Southern Indiana's Norman Upland and Mitchell Karst Plain, continuing westward through the Crawford Upland.

I'm sure he's heard his share of elephant jokes through the years...Oliphant, the elephant at Halloween and "Hey, Oli, what'cha doing?"... things that might scar a psyche into the later years. I mean, he seemed pretty easy going during his time here so I imagine he's survived the taunts that continue to this day.
Kind of like Kitchell in North Central Indiana name?
 
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Oliphant was often seen around Walnut Knolls parties.

Once while visiting friends up at Purdue, I was shaving next to a guy in the bathroom at Tarkington Hall. As we got to talking, found it was indeed Oliphant’s HS teammate, Tony Patterson.

The L&M story in SI was a very good one. Who beat them in the Semi-State in ‘85?
 
That was a great story tiny L&M with like 130 kids in the school. Jeff went to IU Tony Patterson went to Purdue and they had another really good kid. Sports illustrated did an article on them I think ESPN was there for a game. They were ranked like 1 or 2 that 84-85 season. Couldve been a great story and was actually. Ended up losing in semi state finals that yr. I think Jeff had a lot of injuries at IU.
Their varsity coach got ran out of town after the '82 season and ended up at my HS in '83. They address that in the SI article that came out and he was in similar situation with us, but ended up lasting through '88, I think. Maybe '89.

In the summer of '85 Patterson showed up with Grounds at one of our open gyms and ran with us. I was surprised Patterson didn't stick at Purdue. He was quick and could jump, just couldn't get time on the floor, so he decided to go start somewhere else. Grounds was an all-star that year too.

Here's the SI article. https://vault.si.com/vault/1985/02/18/back-home-in-indiana
 
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Oliphant was often seen around Walnut Knolls parties.

Once while visiting friends up at Purdue, I was shaving next to a guy in the bathroom at Tarkington Hall. As we got to talking, found it was indeed Oliphant’s HS teammate, Tony Patterson.

The L&M story in SI was a very good one. Who beat them in the Semi-State in ‘85?
Southridge. Southridge played Austin in the first game. The game lasted forever as probably 40 fouls were called, and Southridge won easily and rested their starters. The second game was L&M vs Evansville Bosse, and Bosse was very good. The game started about an hour late, and lasted longer than normal. I believe the score was about 83-81.

L&M got very little rest between games. It seemed like their shooting was with tired legs, as many shots that were normally made ended up short, and Southridge won the game. L&M was better, but lost. L&M, IMO, had enough talent to win the state. Class basketball could have been avoided (probably not)if only that would have happened.
 
Southridge. Southridge played Austin in the first game. The game lasted forever as probably 40 fouls were called, and Southridge won easily and rested their starters. The second game was L&M vs Evansville Bosse, and Bosse was very good. The game started about an hour late, and lasted longer than normal. I believe the score was about 83-81.

L&M got very little rest between games. It seemed like their shooting was with tired legs, as many shots that were normally made ended up short, and Southridge won the game. L&M was better, but lost. L&M, IMO, had enough talent to win the state. Class basketball could have been avoided (probably not)if only that would have happened.
Southridge had a big goofy white dude that year.
 
Couldn't remember if it was south or shortidge. That is a great story I think more than even IU's dubious coaching hires class basketball has been the biggest downfall with aau . My dad played like 58-61 , he was born in late 43 but i think the yrs. He played at a tiny school with 32 people in 4 grades so likely 15-17 guys. His sr yr they won the sectional . He played with a kid that was in polio braces when he was a freshman that ended up going to Purdue to play. Never talked a lot but pretty sure winning the sectional which basically county meant more than some watered down tournament. Indiana screwed up the best thing they had going. I remember L &M my SR HS yr , just off Alford and IU beating UNC in one of the biggest upsets ever. Shawn Kemp was a freshman at my school that yr. Seeing RMK in a hallway passing one evening being at school late when he was in town. I wonder if Alford had not played in a 10,000 seat gym and the competition if he would have been as tough? Imagine 10,000 people in a HS gm ? Not sure half the last NCAAA tournament came close to that? I don't know what idiots decided this ? The thing I always saw from the start about fairness? 15-20 guys on a team its not football. What was really not fair was the guys that never got a chance to play or even try out for the team when its 15 out 1500+ guys at huge schools. Football I get more .
 
And a small enrollment compared to the Richmond/Marion state final game that year.
And Jay Edwards as a freshman right? Funny after my last post reading this from small town story my dad's mom ended up in Richmond and huge town for one school
 
Southridge. Southridge played Austin in the first game. The game lasted forever as probably 40 fouls were called, and Southridge won easily and rested their starters. The second game was L&M vs Evansville Bosse, and Bosse was very good. The game started about an hour late, and lasted longer than normal. I believe the score was about 83-81.

L&M got very little rest between games. It seemed like their shooting was with tired legs, as many shots that were normally made ended up short, and Southridge won the game. L&M was better, but lost. L&M, IMO, had enough talent to win the state. Class basketball could have been avoided (probably not)if only that would have happened.
Similar thing happened to my hometown team while I was in elementary school. Union High School in Dugger played against Terre Haute North or South for the regional championship in 88 or 89. 2 games in one day for a team that isn’t very deep is a leg killer. It was a close game but still a loss.
 
Similar thing happened to my hometown team while I was in elementary school. Union High School in Dugger played against Terre Haute North or South for the regional championship in 88 or 89. 2 games in one day for a team that isn’t very deep is a leg killer. It was a close game but still a loss.
I have to say I remember Scott Skiles in 83, Plymouth was a rival. Unfortunate he had his issues. He would have been great at IU. I could see doing Fri Sat for sure that was too much to ask . Didnt Alford score 57 in the first game of his semi state and thats a lot to ask to come back from in a few hrs, but damn semi state and state was some great tv
 
And Jay Edwards as a freshman right? Funny after my last post reading this from small town story my dad's mom ended up in Richmond and huge town for one school
Edwards and Jones were sophs on that team. Nikki Mallory was the starting PG and they had a big dude in the middle whose name escapes me. Looked it up and it was Jay Teagle at center.

It was Southridge

And it was Shortridge that beat L&M. I didn't notice Southridge when I replied
 
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sober or smashed... in the little time I've been on this site I've noticed many might make more sense smashed

You dont want 25 people posting gibberish like kurt at 3 am. He would be awfully tough to top though he is in a class by himself. Sometimes if he is on a bender its several nights in a row.
 
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You dont want 25 people posting gibberish like kurt at 3 am. He would be awfully tough to top though he is in a class by himself. Sometimes if he is on a bender its several nights in a row.
what is wrong with you? is that all you think about is my drinking? your hated here your hated on the cooler, Are you jealous?
 
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