Someone that was going to give a little effort. The team was done.You watched the games, didn't you? So, who should have sat? And who should have played in their place?
Someone that was going to give a little effort. The team was done.You watched the games, didn't you? So, who should have sat? And who should have played in their place?
Fixing whatever needs fixing to win..he’s the coach..do u just try to be a pain in the ass bc that was a stupid question. You seem to be ok with the 12/13 losses..care to explain why? Just curious. Serious question. Please be specific.Fixing WHAT?
You got all the answers - let's hear them . . .
Exactly how did Archie mishandle the disconnect - and what should have he done differently? Please be specific. Serious question.
My point has always been what Archie should have done differently that would have made a difference.I guess the rumors are probably exaggerated, but something happened in that locker room that turned us into UCLA in January.
No, it isn't.Fixing whatever needs fixing to win..he’s the coach..do u just try to be a pain in the ass bc that was a stupid question. You seem to be ok with the 12/13 losses..care to explain why? Just curious. Serious question. Please be specific.
That Mickey D had a torn ligament in his shooting hand - think that might have impacted his shot?What has Archie done to deserve his salary at IU?
Recruited a MCD all american in his first year, however, fails to make the dance even-though they have an all BIG performer along with a guy that shattered the vertical jumping record.
If IU has a season like this past one again - especially if they are healthy - then calls for Archie's head won't be unreasonable. By year 3 a senior Green, junior Durham and soph Phinisee out to provide enough guard play. The defense should be better (it has improved the last 2 years). Depth should be better with addition of Brunk and TJD (again, assuming everyone else is healthy).Very simple - if IU misses dance again next year , he needs to go. Big 10 coaches just voted that the IU job is the best in the conference. 3.5 million a year at the best job in conference should be able to get results. Tired of the rebuild talk. It’s becoming ridiculous.
None.And what will be excuses if they miss dance this year?
McBob def should've sat...lolYou watched the games, didn't you? So, who should have sat? And who should have played in their place?
Like your optimism...love to see us in the dance againNone.
There was a lot out of Archie's control this past year, but year 3 tells us what we have. He can either get it done, or he can't. I'll be surprised if they don't go dancing.
I’m not dogging on coach Miller. I like him from an X and O standpoint.
But he worries me in regards to team building. His recruiting has dried up. And he thought Damezi Anderson was better than Aaron Henry.
My point has always been what Archie should have done differently that would have made a difference.
Smith is the one guy I would have benched from what I watched. But who do you play in his place? Moore? Forrester? Neither of them were ready to play to this level - does anyone believe Archie wanted to lose? Those two guys playing likely would have resulted in losses anyways. So are people trying to tell me they'd been ok with the losses IF somebody was held accountable?
It wasn't until we started to get healthy that Smith's minutes were impacted; he was taken out of the starting lineup after the Ohio St game and only played 6 minutes total at Iowa. He then came back to play some of his best basketball to close out the season.
Could Archie had benched him earlier? Yeah - but it's hard to do without any depth at the position. Plus, what were Moore and Forrester giving in practice? Maybe they didn't get playing time because of what they were giving day-to-day?
Everyone always has easy answers. Sometime, reality is much different.
That’s a fair evaluation. Mistakes were plentiful, and the coach was no exception.Anyway, I actually do blame the locker room issues on Archie. Hopefully he's learned you can't coach scared to discipline any player.
Yeah, Quinton or Vijay should have gotten more time.McBob def should've sat...lol
"It doesn’t take years to build a basketball program." you should write a letter to beilein and bennett and tell them that18-4 at the beginning and end of the season but the 12 out of 13 was just effing ugly basketball. Why does it take 13 games/ several weeks to figure out what was wrong. There was a disconnect and it was not handled properly by the head coach. Sugar coat it all you want. A shit is still a shit. The honeymoon is over. It doesn’t take years to build a basketball program. Something just isn’t/ wasn’t right. We shall see in the near future if it has been resolved.
uh, actually you are dogging millerI’m not dogging on coach Miller. I like him from an X and O standpoint.
But he worries me in regards to team building. His recruiting has dried up. And he thought Damezi Anderson was better than Aaron Henry.
i think your "source" just lost some of his credibilityThat’s a fair evaluation. Mistakes were plentiful, and the coach was no exception.
One thing I heard last February from a guy I’d consider to be a highly credible source is that some of the players complained about having to play the packline. If everyone is not on the same page it kills any defense, especially this one. Smith absolutely killed us late against Ohio St, Iowa and Purdue at home on not maintaining proper position.
I still go back to that despite everything that went wrong, we were a win over Ohio St in the BTT from going to the dance. And the fact that our TO percentage and defensive efficiency both got better.
Are we where we want to be/need to be? No, but it’s a process. Not 9 year deal, but 3-4 years is reasonable.
Believe me (hell, believe what you want), if this guy has heard it it likely came from within the program.i think your "source" just lost some of his credibility
Believe me (hell, believe what you want), if this guy has heard it it likely came from within the program.
I don't take every single thing I ever hear as gospel. But from some individuals who I know have more access to the going-ons regarding the basketball program than most people I'll put more stock into. But, again, believe what you want to believe.
what defense did these players prefer to play?Believe me (hell, believe what you want), if this guy has heard it it likely came from within the program.
I don't take every single thing I ever hear as gospel. But from some individuals who I know have more access to the going-ons regarding the basketball program than most people I'll put more stock into. But, again, believe what you want to believe.
Good question.what defense did these players prefer to play?
If only Miller could evaluate talent and see the future like you do.I’m not dogging on coach Miller. I like him from an X and O standpoint.
But he worries me in regards to team building. His recruiting has dried up. And he thought Damezi Anderson was better than Aaron Henry.
Great event at NA. I got the whole team to autograph a T-Shirt. Very good game. I'll start with the Sr team. They were led in scoring by.........yep, you guessed it, Romeo. He has 26 pts, a game high. And 11 rebounds, also a game high. 8 of them offensive. 11-12 from the charity line. He actually didn't have a good game, but was still the MVP. So good. 2nd leading scorer was a suprise. It was Damezi Anderson. I am impressed. He's a physical wing and my goodness is his shot pure. He buried at least 3 treys and a couple mid range shots in this game. His defense is good too. Phinsee was the 3rd highest scorer with 11 pts and 5 assists. His on the ball defense is relentless. Eric Hunter is a good athlete. But he is rail thin. His jumpshot isn't good either. I can't see him helping Purdue for at least a year or two. Aaron Henry can play, but man he's a ball hog. He wants every shot. He doesn't make many either. I like Jarron Coleman that's going to Ball State. He's a nice wing. Someone should recruit Sean East. All he does is bury 3 pointers.
For the Jrs. TJD and Brooks were absent. I am not at all impressed with Mason Gillis. He had 6 pts and 5 turnovers. I hope he is going to Purdue. He's another project for them. Thompson did not play. I have no idea why, but man is he small? The 2 best Jrs were Armaan Franklin and Brandon Newman. Both of these dudes are Big Ten guards. Newman shoots better but Franklin is a better slasher. Both had 20 pts. The Mulloy kid going to Butler wasn't much of a factor. Damani Jones is a 6"8 320 lb kid from Ben Davis. He had 20. The kid is a monster. He's actually an OT recruit. His brother Caleb Jones (6"9 350) plays OT for IU. I envision that he may end up here.
All in all, it was a great game, especially Romeo getting to play in his home gym one more time. I can't wait for basketball season.
That was soooo feepaw-esque . . .If only Miller could evaluate talent and see the future like you do.
Way too early brackets don’t have us. Guess that’s why they play the games, but recruiting did not pan out this year.
Cherry picking. I was responding a poster that had high praise for Archie when he was hired and now acts like everybody should listen to him about how bad of a coach Archie is. Many people outside of IU fans thought Crean should have been kept because of his record, the same record you are referring to as a train wreck.What do you call missing the NCAA tourney 7 out of the last 11 years?
You’re going to miss that “circus” a lot when you see the clown show we have next year. Brunk didn’t even start for Butler, yet him and a freshman are going to replace Morgan?
And Franklin is going to replace Romeo?
Just wait...it’s going to get downright ugly next season.
Cherry picking. I was responding a poster that had high praise for Archie when he was hired and now acts like everybody should listen to him about how bad of a coach Archie is. Many people outside of IU fans thought Crean should have been kept because of his record, the same record you are referring to as a train wreck.
And what will be excuses if they miss dance this year?
We lost Morgan & Romeo and we’re young. The excuses are in place.
He's nothing if not consistent.Dumb
He's nothing if not consistent.
He’s not wrong. There will be plenty of posters continuing to make excuses for Archie, next year. You’ll post your cute pictures trolling posters and Hondo will spaz out like a 3 year old. A lot of posters have already reset expectations to making the tourney as an accomplishment. You’re fanboys
And you're an overreactive drama queen, just like the rest of your posse (free paw, cryanwhine, etc.).
I am not part of any posse or drama. I am tired of losing and tired of excuses. We were good enough to beat MSU twice. No excuses for losing 11 out of 12. No excuses for come out flat almost every game and getting in a hole. No excuse for lack of effort.
Hopefully there will be improvement in 19-20 and major improvement in 20-21.
fpeaugh, any chance you could go retire on a horse ranch in the Nebraska area? No one outside of the voices in your head think IU is a train wreck, that folks is crystal clear.
Let's see ... IU won the national championship in 1973. And over the next 20 years, the team made the NCAA tournament all of three times -- one of those was 1954. So, that's twice in 19 years ...What do you call missing the NCAA tourney 7 out of the last 11 years?