Russia and Ukraine
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Contrary to popular belief, Republicans and Democrats do NOT differ much on Russia/Ukraine.
Despite Tucker Carlson and his ilk spouting Kremlin propaganda 24/7, Republicans are just as likely as Dems to view Russia as an enemy and Russian aggression against Ukraine as a threat.
Despite Tucker Carlson and his ilk spouting Kremlin propaganda 24/7, Republicans are just as likely as Dems to view Russia as an enemy and Russian aggression against Ukraine as a threat.
Do you watch a lot of Tucker Carlson? You must, if you think the's 'spouting Kremlin propaganda 24/7".
Or maybe you're parroting what your hear.
Perhaps Repubs are more likely to view Russia as a threat …recalling OBama vs. Mitt when Obama essentially blew off Russia as an issue from the 1980s. I think this talk irritates Putin as a matter of respect…personally and diplomatically.
Well......
Josh Hawley calls on Biden to drop support for Ukraine membership in NATO
The senator argues being forced to defend Ukraine would undermine efforts to counter China.
www.axios.com
I read the article.
1. Turkey is a NATO member so this whole "North Atlantic" nonsense is hot garbage
2. We don't have anything approaching the coordination of NATO in the Pacific and while I understand his point about China it almost feels like a strawman argument
3. Calling Europe and Russia a "secondary theater" seems dismissive of the problem
4. This letter appears to be a complete break from the Republican party of 2008 and pushing in all his chips behind Trump.
Neocons salivating; "US to deploy troops to Eastern Europe as tensions continue between Russia/Ukraine "US will soon move approximately 2,000 troops from Fort Bragg in North Carolina to Poland and Germany this week. Roughly 1,000 Germany-based soldiers will also head to Romania
1:54 PM · Feb 2, 2022·Twitter Web App
Liz is very excited I am sure.
1:54 PM · Feb 2, 2022·Twitter Web App
Liz is very excited I am sure.
"I never dared to be radical when young for fear it would make me conservative when old."
-- Robert Frost
Don't "shares on social media" = age 20-30?
Few in that age group would ever acknowledge (as by liking or sharing) that they pay attention to someone who looks like Biden.
Ageism lives !!
Haven't you heard?
AOC is a Democrat and therefore, according to the GOP, probably a Socialist and Communist, too. (So is Putin, but the GOP likes him, so he doesn't count.)
The biggest problem with the GOP is they thought the electorate had become so ignorant that it could no longer understand the Republican virtues of morality, family values, strong national defense and balanced budget etc.
So the Republicans went back to middle school, preaching gossip, attacking Democrats and, irrationally, screaming Socialism and Communism like Joe McCarthy (who died 65 years ago).
I can understand Republican nostalgia for Lincoln, but these guy are preaching nostalgia for Joe McCarthy. Why should I ever vote again for another Republican when they won't get back to their values?
Latest satellite photo of Russian build up at the Ukrainian border.
Is it your turn again in the barrell tonight, or are you tag-teaming it with Hickory?Trump !! Oh my Godder !!
Jeez DANC, learn to spell !
Wow, it's not even in Cyrillic!Latest satellite photo of Russian build up at the Ukrainian border.
Wow.
I embarrassed you by suggesting that you learn to spell, and you responded with "barrell."
Could you please provide us with a definition of "barrell"? I bet you don't even realize what you did wrong.
Whenever the populist right and the communist left agree on something, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s a cursed, hare-brained and un-American idea that would result in catastrophe and ruin.Well......
Josh Hawley calls on Biden to drop support for Ukraine membership in NATO
The senator argues being forced to defend Ukraine would undermine efforts to counter China.
I read the article.
1. Turkey is a NATO member so this whole "North Atlantic" nonsense is hot garbage
2. We don't have anything approaching the coordination of NATO in the Pacific and while I understand his point about China it almost feels like a strawman argument
3. Calling Europe and Russia a "secondary theater" seems dismissive of the problem
4. This letter appears to be a complete break from the Republican party of 2008 and pushing in all his chips behind Trump.
Reminder that it was Sinema, NOT Manchin, who saved us from the assault on successful Americans.
These tax hikes would have put us on the slippery slope to socialism, but Sinema stood up to these fine folks.
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I'm not sure where this fits in this discussion but here's a good article about Russia and Ukraine, opining that NATO's overreach is at fault (too):Well......
Josh Hawley calls on Biden to drop support for Ukraine membership in NATO
The senator argues being forced to defend Ukraine would undermine efforts to counter China.
I read the article.
1. Turkey is a NATO member so this whole "North Atlantic" nonsense is hot garbage
2. We don't have anything approaching the coordination of NATO in the Pacific and while I understand his point about China it almost feels like a strawman argument
3. Calling Europe and Russia a "secondary theater" seems dismissive of the problem
4. This letter appears to be a complete break from the Republican party of 2008 and pushing in all his chips behind Trump.
Xi absolutely does not have the balls to detain a US athlete during the Olympics.
Athletes shouldn't be afraid to speak the truth
I was in Kiev during the orange revolution and several more times over the next four years. It was apparent to me that the east side of the country was still longing for the Soviet days while the western side of the country wanted democracy.
Unfortunately, Kiev is located in the dead center of the country so the politics there are intense. I lived in Kiev for about 6 months and i would attend soccer games on Sundays and some pro basketball during the season. I avoided the hotels by staying in rental apartments.
This is not good.
www.reuters.com
China, Russia partner up against West at Olympics summit
China and Russia on the opening day of the Winter Olympics declared a "no limits" partnership, backing each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
www.reuters.com
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No, that's not good at all. But completely predictable.This is not good.
China, Russia partner up against West at Olympics summit
China and Russia on the opening day of the Winter Olympics declared a "no limits" partnership, backing each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
Amazing stuff
sports.yahoo.com
Heroic Klitschko brothers proving they’re willing to die for their country amid Ukraine-Russia crisis
Fighters often say they’re willing to die in the ring; the Klitschko brothers are proving they’re willing to die for what they believe in.
sports.yahoo.com
I believe their father was a general during the USSR years.Amazing stuff
Heroic Klitschko brothers proving they’re willing to die for their country amid Ukraine-Russia crisis
Fighters often say they’re willing to die in the ring; the Klitschko brothers are proving they’re willing to die for what they believe in.
One of them is also the baby dad of Hayden Panettiere's kid. She is about a foot shorter than the father.
Not a serious post....pure nonsense.
Old Joe is on the case. Well maybe not tonight it is bedtime soon but maybe on Monday.This is not good.
China, Russia partner up against West at Olympics summit
China and Russia on the opening day of the Winter Olympics declared a "no limits" partnership, backing each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
What's with Hawley? Isn't Putin, a former KGB colonel, a really bad guy? Didn't Putin describe the demise of the Soviet Union as "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century?" Isn't he committed to expansionism, with a desire to rebuild the Russian empire as his legacy? Isn't Russia our enemy?
www.stltoday.com
Editorial: Hawley posts a fist-pump to ignorance with his position on Ukraine
The Missouri senator's appeasement of Russia earns a well-deserved 'con man' critique from a GOP colleague.
talk about a giant misunderstanding getting totally out of hand.
i have been personally assured by Vlad himself, that none of these soldiers are going to invade Ukraine.
they just want to peacefully tour Ukraine and take in the sights of Kiev, like any other tourists.
he added that perhaps they'd like to tour the US Capital Building as a group as well in the future, preferably during a presidential address to both branches of our legislature, so they can better understand our system and see such a beautiful building from the inside.
the whole world should feel pretty stupid for totally misreading this.
what country doesn't love tourists.
i have been personally assured by Vlad himself, that none of these soldiers are going to invade Ukraine.
they just want to peacefully tour Ukraine and take in the sights of Kiev, like any other tourists.
he added that perhaps they'd like to tour the US Capital Building as a group as well in the future, preferably during a presidential address to both branches of our legislature, so they can better understand our system and see such a beautiful building from the inside.
the whole world should feel pretty stupid for totally misreading this.
what country doesn't love tourists.
US intel indicates Russian officers have had doubts about full scale Ukraine invasion | CNN Politics
Intercepted communications obtained by the US have revealed that some Russian officials have worried that a large-scale invasion of Ukraine would be costlier and more difficult than Russian President Vladimir Putin and other Kremlin leaders realize, according to four people familiar with the...
They Liz Cheaney's and Bill Kristol's of the world are getting very excited. They smell a possible war! I am sure Bush is all smiles as well.
JUST IN - UK urges British nationals to leave #Ukraine now.
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JUST IN - Americans in #Ukraine should leave the country "in the next 24-48 hours," the White House says.
JUST IN - UK urges British nationals to leave #Ukraine now.
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JUST IN - Americans in #Ukraine should leave the country "in the next 24-48 hours," the White House says.
Something came down the intelligence wire that has them spooked it sounds like.They Liz Cheaney's and Bill Kristol's of the world are getting very excited. They smell a possible war! I am sure Bush is all smiles as well.
JUST IN - UK urges British nationals to leave #Ukraine now.
@disclosetv
43.1Kviews12:44
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JUST IN - Americans in #Ukraine should leave the country "in the next 24-48 hours," the White House says.
There are some fairly definitive statements being made on our side...one of those "hope they aren't true" type of things counterbalanced by "but they need to be true or we look kind of dumb" type of things.
The excitement builds. Bill Krystol must be like a kid in a candy store right now.This is not good.
China, Russia partner up against West at Olympics summit
China and Russia on the opening day of the Winter Olympics declared a "no limits" partnership, backing each other over standoffs on Ukraine and Taiwan with a promise to collaborate more against the West.
Biden orders 3,000 more troops to Poland amid Ukraine crisis
Biden orders 3,000 more troops to Poland amid Ukraine crisis
By ROBERT BURNS, AP National Security Writer 38 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon is sending another 3,000 combat troops to Poland to join 1,700 who already are assembling there in a demonstration of American commitment to NATO allies worried at the prospect of Russia invading Ukraine, a senior defense official said Friday.
The excitement builds? Cmon man there is nothing good about this. Xi needs a bullet in the head yesterday the f* king prick.
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