Romeo's stock continues to fall.
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I'd like to know who are all these potential draftees are that going to come in and play so many minutes after Zion and Morant. Morant dominated the OVC. I'm sure there will be a sleeper here or there. Good luck to the NBA in picking the right one. I'm sure the Spurs would love to have romeo.
Dejounte Murray of the spurs played predominately in the G-League in his rookie year as a late 1st round pick. In his 2nd year, he became the youngest player to be named to the NBA all defense team earnng 2nd year honors. I think it a myth that players lack the opportunities to develop their games in the NBA. This year Murray, tore his ACL and missed the season. Guess what. Derrick White another rookie guard 1st rounder followed Murray's path. He led the Spurs G-League team to the title last year playing well past april. He is also having a fine 2nd year playing with the NBA spurs.
Donovan mitchell shot 25% as a Frosh playing slight over half the minutes and taking slighty more than half the 3 pointers Romeo took. Nobody really payed attention to him. Romeo draws a lot of defensive attention. Mitchell came back his soph year and shot %35 from the arc.
I hope romeo returns. Morant, mitchell, and Culver make a good case for Romeo returning. Players like Murray and white makes a good case for him leaving. It's really about how hard Romeo works at his game not as much where he does it. I think in the NBA he can make money and probably get up to NBA speed quicker.
Dejounte Murray of the spurs played predominately in the G-League in his rookie year as a late 1st round pick. In his 2nd year, he became the youngest player to be named to the NBA all defense team earnng 2nd year honors. I think it a myth that players lack the opportunities to develop their games in the NBA. This year Murray, tore his ACL and missed the season. Guess what. Derrick White another rookie guard 1st rounder followed Murray's path. He led the Spurs G-League team to the title last year playing well past april. He is also having a fine 2nd year playing with the NBA spurs.
Donovan mitchell shot 25% as a Frosh playing slight over half the minutes and taking slighty more than half the 3 pointers Romeo took. Nobody really payed attention to him. Romeo draws a lot of defensive attention. Mitchell came back his soph year and shot %35 from the arc.
I hope romeo returns. Morant, mitchell, and Culver make a good case for Romeo returning. Players like Murray and white makes a good case for him leaving. It's really about how hard Romeo works at his game not as much where he does it. I think in the NBA he can make money and probably get up to NBA speed quicker.
What kind of history does he have then? Was it better than Billy Gilliespie? Are the players IU has on their roster good enough to make the tournament two years in a roll? What would be obvious enough for you? not passing sweet 16 with two top 5 NBA lottery picks? What would UK, UNC or any other "elite" schools do under the same circumstances?
3 years ago we were NIT with more talent than Miller's first team. so, that didn't surprise. this year surprised me.
took miller 2 years at Dayton to get them on track for 4 ncaa trips in a row.
please name all the other times -- besides that one time UK fired the drunk Gillespie -- that an elite school cut bait after 2 years
you guys aren't wrong to be be pissed but the doom and gloom prognoses is more tied to emotional baggage and 25 years of bad self-esteem than IU's basketball season. jesus...
How Archie and the IU staff improve Romeo this year?
Romeo may have his ‘stock falling’ - and realize better get out of the mess at IU while he still is 1st round projected.
What makes anyone assume Archie will improve any of Romeo’s skills, or team status in tourney etc, by staying another year.
I think Romeo will be just fine, start his rookie deal asap, amd cash in on 2nd and 3rd contracts at a younger age.
‘This season sucked, next year looks to be worse. I didn’t improve on any individual skill w the work of this coaching staff...I should spend another year here!’ said no first round draft pick ever.
Romeo may have his ‘stock falling’ - and realize better get out of the mess at IU while he still is 1st round projected.
What makes anyone assume Archie will improve any of Romeo’s skills, or team status in tourney etc, by staying another year.
I think Romeo will be just fine, start his rookie deal asap, amd cash in on 2nd and 3rd contracts at a younger age.
‘This season sucked, next year looks to be worse. I didn’t improve on any individual skill w the work of this coaching staff...I should spend another year here!’ said no first round draft pick ever.
The only one I can think of that’s even close is UNC firing Matt Doherty, but that was after three seasons, to get Roy Williams. I can’t think of any other examples of a major program firing a coach after two years other than UK. UK also had the “he’s a drunk with poor behavior” excuse.
Seems I remember Romeo making a statement once that he wasn't necessarily a OAD, that if he really enjoyed the college experience and his situation, he might stay for a couple of years. Of course, this year didn't quite go as ANYONE had planned. Maybe he doesn't want to go out this way, maybe he is ready to hit the road running, who knows except Romeo and possibly his family.
Seems like all the kids say that about college. Hell, Josh Smith was saying IU was “still in the picture” until about a month or two before the draft.
One of the latest mock drafts I saw had him at #14, so still a lottery pick.
Romeo had one of the best Freshman seasons in IU history. When compared against his peers in the 2018 recruiting class, he performed exactly how you would expect based on his ranking.
IMO, his lateral movement is elite and he has length that the NBA scouts like. I could see him get minutes off the bench just because of his defense. I guess the consensus is he just goes through the motions and doesn't play hard and never will. If he doesn't work hard at succeeding, then I agree. He just doesn't seem like a me kid or one who won't listen to what he needs to work on. NBA scouts will get close up looks and interviews with him in the draft camps.
So if he's a giant head case it makes MORE sense to leave now. Go before you get found out.
He's not ready. None of these guys outside of the top 1 or 2 are ready.
love how you add your little drama stylings ...ya, romeos is jumping off this runaway train OR more likely he's going pro because that was always his intent
and yes -- the development of one players says all you need to know about every player that will ever play for a coach. P.S. Morgan says hi.
for the millionth time, Archie may turn out to be a bust but it will have nothing to do with your truly shitty analysis.
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Not saying that either. I have already said if he is a lottery pick he should go. If he is not a guaranteed one though I think he should stay.
I think Langford has had things come easy w.r.t. basketball for a good deal of his life. I think that this is really some of the first "adversity" he has really faced in any great measure. I think he could respond to that and improve draft stock next year if he is not going to be a lottery pick.
He should have plenty of time for workouts and interviews before the agent/draft deadline and have a good idea of his status.
Why would an already signed contract for guaranteed money motivate you? You’ve already got it.
Morant, Barrett, Williamson, Hachimura, are all ready to play big minutes, and most of the rest of the lottery will play significant minutes as well.
So take your tired cliche somewhere else.
Idk that Morgan necessarily improved on any skill...however he was used much more and much differently.
I’d say the previous staff worked on Morgan’s ability to shoot and handle the ball.
Morgan scored well the last 2 seasons. Morgan was given many opportunities to score w Archie and staff....
So maybe he improved skills, or maybe he was sort of like Tom Prichard’s first season when he was force fed the ball inside.
IMO, I think his lateral quickness is above average for a 6’6” college player, but is not at an elite level.
IMO, to have success in the League, you must be have one truly elite attribute . It could be shooting, passing, rebounding, defending, size, ball-handling, etc. I think Romeo can be good at a lot of things, but does not have a talent that will set him above a plethora of 6’5” or 6’6” shooting guards competing for a long term position in the NBA.
I think he has the potential to work on his aggressiveness, shooting, ball-handling and play-making skills, but they are not near NBA levels at this time.
He will probably spend some time in the G league next year and his ability to improve on his overall game will be the determining factor in his NBA career. He seems like a good kid and I hope he has success.
i think pinpointing development is tricky. easier to do with more years and data to gather from.
langford's year may or may not scare other oads off but it seems like there are just too many variables. idk
I can't imagine the NBA's feedback machine recommending Romeo stay and develop at IU. They'll take him in round one. If he stays it'll be because he wants to. I'm betting he goes but I hope he returns.
Lol....so bored with inferior competition in practice that he was showing what he really was by scoring 40 points a game in Big Ten play. Yeah...right.
Bored by coaching, game plan, lack of success, lack of improvement in individual skill...not what he thought he was coming into...
Oh, ok... cause I thought you said, "Everyone remember how we developed/treated Romeo and Vonleh the next time you think it’s in a 5 star’s best interest to come here. Unfortunately neither will ever have the opportunity to play in the NCAAT. Future recruits will notice."
So I myself thought, Yogi and Zeller both are on NBA rosters, both made as you said the S16 (which means they were in the NCAAT) and both are beloved around these parts.
So your pitch would be “come here and you have a 50% chance of making the tournament and 50% chance of being loved once you’re gone?”
You think that would beat out the likes of Duke, UK, Kansas, etc?
Even assuming a ten year career (and there's no guarantee of a ten year career by any means)...I wouldn't want to pass up a year's earning potential.
Thank goodness the old Barkley days of the NBA are completely gone. “It goes inside, back it in, back it in, back it in, back it in, shoot”. Lillard was burying step back 35 footers last night. Bird started changing the old game and Steph Curry banished it completely.
Watching Steph Curry play it is hard to believe he wasn’t born and bred in Indiana (he was short on his shots last night though). He plays with an intensity you don’t often see.
Watching Steph Curry play it is hard to believe he wasn’t born and bred in Indiana (he was short on his shots last night though). He plays with an intensity you don’t often see.
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