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Romeo's stock continues to fall.

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It is seemingly dropping like a lead balloon. Perhaps someone should tell him that he would be better off staying at IU, improving his game, getting an education and enjoying the college experience. But there is no chance though and we all know it.
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Everything I’ve read on Romeo said he was a one and done. I don’t see him sticking around one more year and working on his education, it’s not a priority. I think you’re right there’s no chance of him coming back unless he drops out of the first round in the draft.

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IULouie said:
Everything I’ve read on Romeo said he was a one and done. I don’t see him sticking around one more year and working on his education is a priority. I think you’re right there’s no chance of him coming back unless he drops out of the first round in the draft.

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I think he might consider staying if he is not a lottery pick.

I think Romeo has the ability to be a really good player, after watching him this year though, I do not know if I could pull the trigger if I was an NBA GM with a high pick. I think he still has quite a bit to prove because I do not know where he fits on an NBA roster. He was fairly one dimensional for us this year in that he basically had to drive and the drive had to be to the right. I do not know how effective that would make him in the NBA. Also, with some deficiencies in his game, he would need to be a stat stuffer in other areas. I just never saw Romeo get "dirty" during the games as far as going after loose balls, getting defensive position to take a charge, etc. Guess that is why they get paid the big bucks though, but I would have reservations about my team drafting him.
 
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I never saw Romeo play in high school, so just going on his year. But I don’t get what the hype is. If you are an NBA GM, what did you see from Romeo this year that says, I need to draft him in the first round? I’m not saying Romeo doesn’t have the skill set. And I understand that the NBA drafts on potential. But what did he flash?

Look at OG. It wasn’t like he was a superstar at IU. But you could see his athleticism and how it affected games.

My guess is, he will go pro as long as he’s a first rounder. But his play this year was no where near the hype.
 
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IUCrazy2 said:
I think he might consider staying if he is not a lottery pick.

I think Romeo has the ability to be a really good player, after watching him this year though, I do not know if I could pull the trigger if I was an NBA GM with a high pick. I think he still has quite a bit to prove because I do not know where he fits on an NBA roster. He was fairly one dimensional for us this year in that he basically had to drive and the drive had to be to the right. I do not know how effective that would make him in the NBA. Also, with some deficiencies in his game, he would need to be a stat stuffer in other areas. I just never saw Romeo get "dirty" during the games as far as going after loose balls, getting defensive position to take a charge, etc. Guess that is why they get paid the big bucks though, but I would have reservations about my team drafting him.
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He needs to spend some time in The Victor Oladipo Workout School.
 
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Rotonda Jim said:
It is seemingly dropping like a lead balloon. Perhaps someone should tell him that he would be better off staying at IU, improving his game, getting an education and enjoying the college experience. But there is no chance though and we all know it.
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I think he's better off going to the NBA to play and practice against better players. He's bored out of his mind here.
 
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I think he's better off going to the NBA to play and practice against better players. He's bored out of his mind here.
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That’s what would concern me if I was an NBA GM. That Romeo was bored and coasted this year. And he struggled like he did against non NBA competition.

If he was bored and played lights out, fine. But bored and demonstrating an inability to shoot and lead your team to victory is not a great combo.
 
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Atlanta if they get the Mavs pick and Memphis if they keep their pick are worrisome. I think he would like to land in one of those destinations. If I remember correctly, He was high on Vandy because they were in the South and he has close family ties in Atlanta. He even wanted to make his college announcement in Atlanta at one point.

The majority of these draft rankings are knee jerk. I'll stick with Draft Express and Giovany who has him top 5-10. Other than zion and maybe Morant, the rest of the top 10 picks will also need development time. There are not to many upperclassmen ready to roll into the NBA either. He'll go to the camps and gather information.

I would be surprised if he stayed but not shocked. IMO, he needs to work more on becoming more aggressive. I believe college is the best for that. He is probably better off improving his on court game by going to the NBA but might prefer a better ending to his college career.

If he does stay, wouldn't you rather have Romeo and TJD as opposed to Brooks and TJD. Obviously all 3 would be better.
 
Bligedy said:
I think he's better off going to the NBA to play and practice against better players. He's bored out of his mind here.
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Hmm, I would say not applying oneself is being confused with boredom. If that is the case.....he might wash out in a hurry in the NBA. Bored, with your remainder of your college career on the line against OSU.....disappear because one is bored?
 
IU Hoops Fan said:
That’s what would concern me if I was an NBA GM. That Romeo was bored and coasted this year. And he struggled like he did against non NBA competition.

If he was bored and played lights out, fine. But bored and demonstrating an inability to shoot and lead your team to victory is not a great combo.
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An NBA GM saw an 18 year old freshman in the B1G who was “bored and coasted” and still managed to average 16.5 ppg, 5.4 reb, and 2.3 ast. I can easily see an NBA GM saying “damn, what could he do if I lit a fire under his ass?”.
 
Bligedy said:
I think he's better off going to the NBA to play and practice against better players. He's bored out of his mind here.
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Whose fault is that?

If you are an NBA scout and GM, do you think that Romeo maximized his college experience? I don't. He, at times, looked like a player who thought he was above doing certain things that you need to do to win. I think I can remember him getting on the floor for a ball one time.

He has a ton of ability and the measurables to be good but he never really broke out this year. I cannot remember but a few instances where he took over a game. I might be willing to risk a pick on him later in the first round right now but I would not make him a lottery pick if I were a GM.

That said, if he is a lottery pick, he should go. Get the guaranteed money while you can because the league has cast off quite a few guys who were can't miss talents.
 
He was IU's top scorer as a freshman. We didn't provide much help for him. Romeo was not the problem; green & smith not consistently contributing and DD, Race, and Hunter injuries were the factors that sent us to the NIT. We didn't get what we needed from others to win a few more. Langford was pretty darn good.
 
mobilehoosier said:
He was IU's top scorer as a freshman. We didn't provide much help for him. Romeo was not the problem; green & smith not consistently contributing and DD, Race, and Hunter injuries were the factors that sent us to the NIT. We didn't get what we needed from others to win a few more. Langford was pretty darn good.
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At times he was "pretty darn good." At other times, he completely disappeared. No "take charge" attitude and not a good ball handler or outside shooter. His drives will get swatted in the seats in the NBA.
 
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He’s gone,he didn’t want to be here one year.So why would he stick around for another?
 
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IUCrazy2 said:
He has a ton of ability and the measurables .
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Using your words....that's why he'll get drafted. And drafted highly.

I don't know whether he's ready or not. His play suggests he's not. But I also think he'd benefit more from playing against better players every day.
 
SuperHoosierFan said:
An NBA GM saw an 18 year old freshman in the B1G who was “bored and coasted” and still managed to average 16.5 ppg, 5.4 reb, and 2.3 ast. I can easily see an NBA GM saying “damn, what could he do if I lit a fire under his ass?”.
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True. And that’s why I think he’s gone. But when you need to shoot as much as he shot to get those points, it raises a lot of flags. And the concern about why he needs someone to light a fire for him. It’s not surprising that his draft stock has dropped.
 
Tegray1 said:
He may be playing in the G league because he will need to play to get better.
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I don't know about that. If he comes out he'll get his shot. NBA has specialists. My guess is if he is coachable and works hard, he will be able to play a role from the start. I know the experts here say Romeo doesn't play D but IMO, his measurables indicate otherwise. He has elite lateral movement and length for a wing defender. His offense is more polished than OG who has played 20 minutes game off the bench for one of the better teams in the league since he joined them. He may not be a better defender than OG right away but could contribute to an NBA rotation. He will have 5 months of non stop basketball to work on his game and specifically 2-3 months after the NBA summer league to work on a specialty for whatever team drafts him..
 
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True. And that’s why I think he’s gone. But when you need to shoot as much as he shot to get those points, it raises a lot of flags. And the concern about why he needs someone to light a fire for him. It’s not surprising that his draft stock has dropped.
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Yeah. He's a lousy shooter. That's why I, personally, wouldn't draft him. 6'6 athletes who can drive are a dime a dozen.
 
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Yeah. He's a lousy shooter. That's why I, personally, wouldn't draft him. 6'6 athletes who can drive are a dime a dozen.
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They are in the NBA. He’s not a good enough athlete to not be able to shoot. He underachieved this year based on the hype. Maybe that’s not his fault. But there were very few games this year where he looked like an NBA player to me.
 
I'll hold out a little hope he'll stay because he seems to enjoy his team mates. If he does Archie needs to demand more from him, and as a soph he may be more capable of taking over a game now and then. It's a fine line; too many games the team just waited for him or Juwan to take over and that was no good but when we need someone to do it, he needs to be able to put the team on his back. Having said that, he'd surely be valuable if he stayed. Likely he won't stay I guess. It will be interesting to see who leaves.
 
SuperHoosierFan said:
An NBA GM saw an 18 year old freshman in the B1G who was “bored and coasted” and still managed to average 16.5 ppg, 5.4 reb, and 2.3 ast. I can easily see an NBA GM saying “damn, what could he do if I lit a fire under his ass?”.
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and how do you light that fire?
 
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They are in the NBA. He’s not a good enough athlete to not be able to shoot. He underachieved this year based on the hype. Maybe that’s not his fault. But there were very few games this year where he looked like an NBA player to me.
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Everything you say is true, but it doesn’t matter. The NBA drafts on potential.
 
Potential beats current game skill level. He'll take the money and run.

Anyone watching can see his jump shot is not good enough for the NBA and he's right hand dominant to the extreme. It is also unlikely he will be able to finish at the rim against NBA size as easily as he has in one year of college. Still, that won't stop him from going pro. It's just the way things are today.

He is probably being told to go now and get paid to develop his game. Whether that works out or not - time will tell. The true goal is not just to get drafted. It's to get a second contract. If he cannot develop his shot and left hand he will be drafted over before his first contract ends.

I hope he figures it all out and becomes a great NBA player.
 
Everyone remember how we developed/treated Romeo and Vonleh the next time you think it’s in a 5 star’s best interest to come here. Unfortunately neither will ever have the opportunity to play in the NCAAT. Future recruits will notice.
 
Bligedy said:
Using your words....that's why he'll get drafted. And drafted highly.

I don't know whether he's ready or not. His play suggests he's not. But I also think he'd benefit more from playing against better players every day.
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Yeah, but the non physical stuff matters too. There are a ton of guys with those same attributes who wash out every year. There is a big mental component to being successful at that level that is more than just natural ability. That is where there are question marks for me with Langford.

I look at it like this, Eric Gordon was the type of player on the court who wanted to stomp a mud hole in you and if you tried to get up, he would stomp you some more. Cody Zeller had fight in him. I don't see any fight in Romeo, at least he did not show it for me enough this year. He seemed to shrink from tough play and tough situations. He will probably be one and done but he is the least prepared one and done that I have seen come through here lately.
 
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Rotonda Jim said:
It is seemingly dropping like a lead balloon. Perhaps someone should tell him that he would be better off staying at IU, improving his game, getting an education and enjoying the college experience. But there is no chance though and we all know it.
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Teams have a choice in the draft. Draft someone else that already has all the tools, or Romeo that has the size and speed to be a great player.

I would take a kid that could play right away and go after Romeo later in free agency after another team develops his talent. That isn't how the NBA works, but it is what I would do
 
ReadHall84 said:
At times he was "pretty darn good." At other times, he completely disappeared. No "take charge" attitude and not a good ball handler or outside shooter. His drives will get swatted in the seats in the NBA.
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Nailed it. Not sure how this survives in the NBA.
 
victorbear said:
What's the difference between lottery money and 1st round money???
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Here's an article from Forbes looking at last years draft and the projected salaries.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonb...round-rookie-salary-projections/#700da3d0642d

Going top 5 versus something like 20th makes a significant difference, though even the last guy in the first round will sign a guaranteed contract worth a few million bucks, so hard to pass that up I would think. Only chance as I see it is that he gets NBA feedback and they tell him a proven jumper could vault him from mid-first this year to high lottery next year. More likely though the scouts figure he can develop the shot (his form looks pure to my untrained eye) and it doesn't make a huge difference.

I'd guess then the question would be the strength of this year's class versus next. I have heard next year projected to be weaker, but those things change.
 
Bligedy said:
I think he's better off going to the NBA to play and practice against better players. He's bored out of his mind here.
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Bored is when you clearly outmatch the opposition. When you dont have sufficient competition. Egad how could he blame his issues on boredom. Bloomington wasnt as lively as New Albany or he was head and shoulders above the competition. This sound like an excuse not a reason. But if i were him and i got away with this spin to the nba then i would go with it also.
 
or does he have weakness in his game with the coeds that he also needs to strengthen. How the heck could he be bored. This makes no sense.
 
He should take the Jared Jeffries route and stay a second season. Jeffries came back, won Big Ten player of the year, played for the title and was a lottery pick. Probably got better endorsement deals.

Unless you're getting minutes in the NBA, it's harder to develop than most realize. You're not getting a lot of team practices post-training camp. Mostly walk-throughs and individual workouts.
 
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Why should Romeo stay? what for? There is no championship to win. This team will more likely miss the tournament again next year.
 
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victorbear said:
What's the difference between lottery money and 1st round money???
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n the 2018 to 2019 season, the bottom 20 of the 30 first-round draft positions scale between $1,350,400 and $2,812,800. The top-draft pick salary based on the NBA rookie salary scale is $6,804,300. Sliding NBA Rookie Salary Scale. These numbers can be somewhat deceiving. Under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, rookies may actually earn as much as 120 percent or as little as 80 percent of the scaled salary amount assigned to their draft positions.

That's year 1, salaries go up by 20% or so every eyar after
 
all4IU said:
Why should Romeo stay? what for? There is no championship to win. This team will more likely miss the tournament again next year.
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ya, because archie has a long history..of...missing...the...tourney?

you guys are really confusing me. your f******* meltdowns are 1 to 2 years too soon and you know it.

but maybe you're getting paid per tear.,,,
 
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