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Robert Kraft no happy ending for you

So.....lemme get this straight.

Health dept gets a tip about women living in spa.

They report this to police.

Police investigate and find out this is a sex business and that yes, there are women being held there.

Police go into business, inform business they will be setting up cameras.

Police then ALLOW these women who are slaves to proceed to perform sexual acts for money, while they film, over the course of weeks with several patrons?

Am I reading this right?

"Hey we know you're being victimized here, but indulge us please. We need to embarrass some of these famous big money patrons to make a news splash. You've been doing this for a while now, so what's another few weeks of sex slavedom?"

Does this make any sense?
 
outside shooter said:
So.....lemme get this straight.

Health dept gets a tip about women living in spa.

They report this to police.

Police investigate and find out this is a sex business and that yes, there are women being held there.

Police go into business, inform business they will be setting up cameras.

Police then ALLOW these women who are slaves to proceed to perform sexual acts for money, while they film, over the course of weeks with several patrons?

Am I reading this right?

"Hey we know you're being victimized here, but indulge us please. We need to embarrass some of these famous big money patrons to make a news splash. You've been doing this for a while now, so what's another few weeks of sex slavedom?"

Does this make any sense?
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Someone has their tinfoil hat on...
 
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outside shooter said:
So.....lemme get this straight.

Health dept gets a tip about women living in spa.

They report this to police.

Police investigate and find out this is a sex business and that yes, there are women being held there.

Police go into business, inform business they will be setting up cameras.

Police then ALLOW these women who are slaves to proceed to perform sexual acts for money, while they film, over the course of weeks with several patrons?

Am I reading this right?

"Hey we know you're being victimized here, but indulge us please. We need to embarrass some of these famous big money patrons to make a news splash. You've been doing this for a while now, so what's another few weeks of sex slavedom?"

Does this make any sense?
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RK is the real victim here. :rolleyes:
 
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Man y'all are dense.

Kraft is a jerk if he did this, I have made that clear.

If the cops kept sex slaves working as sex slaves for WEEKS more, it also seems the wrong way to investigate.
 
outside shooter said:
So.....lemme get this straight.

Health dept gets a tip about women living in spa.

They report this to police.

Police investigate and find out this is a sex business and that yes, there are women being held there.

Police go into business, inform business they will be setting up cameras.

Police then ALLOW these women who are slaves to proceed to perform sexual acts for money, while they film, over the course of weeks with several patrons?

Am I reading this right?

"Hey we know you're being victimized here, but indulge us please. We need to embarrass some of these famous big money patrons to make a news splash. You've been doing this for a while now, so what's another few weeks of sex slavedom?"

Does this make any sense?
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No, you're reading this wrong. You think the police approached the prostitutes to engage their assistance? Har. You are funny. Predictable, but funny.

Here's my understanding of the gist of what went happened, and anyone, correct me if I'm wrong: A county Health Dept worker inspected the place, as they do periodically. You agree to the inspection to get a license to do this kind of business. During the inspection, the health care worker noticed a room with beds and nightstands, with some condiments on the tables, indicating to the worker that someone was living there. Which is against the law in commercial uses, unless specifically approved.

Add two and two, and the health care worker notifies the police, who start to stake out the establishment. The police do so, and observe that only men are entering and leaving said day spa, which further increases their interest in said establishment. So, they then start pulling over men leaving the place on legal (I assume...) traffic stops, and in the course of the stop, they ask the man if he had paid for sex there. Enough men said during these stops that yes, they had, which gave the cops enough to get a warrant.

Now at this point, I'm not certain if the warrant was for a search, or a surveillance op, but I suspect the latter, because of the alleged video of the actors / acts in question. They then start an investigation of the place, and during the investigation, start to uncover the facts - sex slaves, held against their will, and in the process inventory the men who are frequenting the business. Today, the po-po charged Kraft with misdemeanor crimes, as they should, and indicated that more men are will likely be charged. I suspect that the investigation into the larger, and absolutely heinous, crime of sex trafficking / slavery will proceed. We'll see where that takes things.

Now, I'm not on board with inferring, at this point, that Kraft is nothing more than a human who has certain proclivities, as well do, and that he should have known there was sex trafficking.

Carry on with Deflect-Gate
 
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TheOriginalHappyGoat said:
They are supposed to shut down the business without evidence? How ****ing stupid are you?
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Prostitution rings are busted all the time without gathering the video of people completing sex acts over and over again over the course of several weeks or months. The guy pays the money, drops his drawers, and the cops come in.
 
outside shooter said:
Prostitution rings are busted all the time without gathering the video of people completing sex acts over and over again over the course of several weeks or months. The guy pays the money, drops his drawers, and the cops come in.
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For a guy who says he doesn't want to defend Kraft being a pervert, you sure are going out of your way to find fault with the investigation.

Also, you're still an idiot.
 
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I merely wonder if the investigation was done in an ethical manner to get the sex slaves out of their condition as soon as possible. How stupid are all of you to not be thinking of the victims?

The rich old guys who got caught deserve everything that comes to them.

The traffickers deserve a life in jail.
 
TheOriginalHappyGoat said:
They are supposed to shut down the business without evidence? How ****ing stupid are you?
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This article says the police got a warrant on Jan. 15 to set up cameras and captured images a few days later.

https://www.providencejournal.com/s...ged-in-fla-prostitution-sting?template=ampart

But this article says that "police have video evidence of Kraft engaging in sex acts on two separate visits".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...a-prostitution-sting-what-we-know/2951063002/

Sure sounds like the police allowed some sex acts after they got the warrant.
 
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Stuffshot said:
This article says the police got a warrant on Jan. 15 to set up cameras and captured images a few days later.

https://www.providencejournal.com/s...ged-in-fla-prostitution-sting?template=ampart

But this article says that "police have video evidence of Kraft engaging in sex acts on two separate visits".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...a-prostitution-sting-what-we-know/2951063002/

Sure sounds like the police allowed some sex acts after they got the warrant.
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Maybe Kraft visits there an awful lot. Or maybe they had their own cameras.
 
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Stuffshot said:
Sure sounds like the police allowed some sex acts after they got the warrant.
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You can't rely on 1 or 2 or 10 or 50 tapes of sex slaves getting slammed. You draw the line, though, once you are up to 5 weeks and 200 Johns on tape.

Then you've got to stop it pronto!
 
outside shooter said:
I merely wonder if the investigation was done in an ethical manner to get the sex slaves out of their condition as soon as possible. How stupid are all of you to not be thinking of the victims?

The rich old guys who got caught deserve everything that comes to them.

The traffickers deserve a life in jail.
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A Patriots fan concerned about ethics?

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Reports coming out that Kraft is not the biggest name in this sting!
 
ESPN just reported that arrest warrants will be served Monday, but he could turn himself in earlier. Hope we get some good perp walk footage to go along the broke dick waiting on the pill to kick in footage.
 
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I'll bet this is just the tip of the iceberg for Kraft's perversions. If he was going to this seedy joint and banging sex slaves, than anything is possible. It wouldn't surprise me if he was banging underage girls in Thailand or something. The media and law enforcement investigations will be interesting.
 
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Kraft was "Male 12" in the police report. The text from the police report is as follows:

January 20th, 2019, 1040hrs - 1113hrs
Room surveillance: Det. D. Hirsch #402
Room Camera # JPPD Cam 3

Defendant: Male 12 gray hair, blue long sleeve shirt, white shorts

At approximately 1040hrs, Male 12 entered the business, approached the front desk, and paid Lei Wang (A/F 5/20/73), who was behind the counter for services utilizing a credit/debit card and cash, which was captured on JPPD Cam 5. Wang escorted Male 12 to a room, designated as JPPD Cam 3. Male 12 completely undressed and laid face down on the table. A second Asian female, who work a pink shirt with black stripes and black capri pants, entered the room and began massaging Male 12. At approximately 1103hrs, Male 12 flipped over and the female began manually manipulating his penis and testicles. This went on for several minutes. After a few minutes the female wiped the male in the area of his genitals with a white towel. At approximately 1113hrs, Male 12 left.

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This was the morning of the AFCCG. He apparently then hopped onto his private jet to KC after his rub n tug.
 
outside shooter said:
Kraft was "Male 12" in the police report. The text from the police report is as follows:

January 20th, 2019, 1040hrs - 1113hrs
Room surveillance: Det. D. Hirsch #402
Room Camera # JPPD Cam 3

Defendant: Male 12 gray hair, blue long sleeve shirt, white shorts

At approximately 1040hrs, Male 12 entered the business, approached the front desk, and paid Lei Wang (A/F 5/20/73), who was behind the counter for services utilizing a credit/debit card and cash, which was captured on JPPD Cam 5. Wang escorted Male 12 to a room, designated as JPPD Cam 3. Male 12 completely undressed and laid face down on the table. A second Asian female, who work a pink shirt with black stripes and black capri pants, entered the room and began massaging Male 12. At approximately 1103hrs, Male 12 flipped over and the female began manually manipulating his penis and testicles. This went on for several minutes. After a few minutes the female wiped the male in the area of his genitals with a white towel. At approximately 1113hrs, Male 12 left.

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This was the morning of the AFCCG. He apparently then hopped onto his private jet to KC after his rub n tug.
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Well, at least he has more staying power than Rick Pitino.
 
outside shooter said:
Kraft was "Male 12" in the police report. The text from the police report is as follows:

January 20th, 2019, 1040hrs - 1113hrs
Room surveillance: Det. D. Hirsch #402
Room Camera # JPPD Cam 3

Defendant: Male 12 gray hair, blue long sleeve shirt, white shorts

At approximately 1040hrs, Male 12 entered the business, approached the front desk, and paid Lei Wang (A/F 5/20/73), who was behind the counter for services utilizing a credit/debit card and cash, which was captured on JPPD Cam 5. Wang escorted Male 12 to a room, designated as JPPD Cam 3. Male 12 completely undressed and laid face down on the table. A second Asian female, who work a pink shirt with black stripes and black capri pants, entered the room and began massaging Male 12. At approximately 1103hrs, Male 12 flipped over and the female began manually manipulating his penis and testicles. This went on for several minutes. After a few minutes the female wiped the male in the area of his genitals with a white towel. At approximately 1113hrs, Male 12 left.

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This was the morning of the AFCCG. He apparently then hopped onto his private jet to KC after his rub n tug.
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Damn, now that's the life.
 
New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft could be charged as early as Monday with soliciting prostitution, according to the State Attorney's Office in Palm Beach County, Florida

CNN affiliate WBZ reported that a summons will be sent to Kraft "ordering him to turn himself in."
"He is not expected to be arrested. Kraft's lawyers will likely contact the county attorney and make arrangements for Kraft to come to court in Florida and turn himself in," WBZ's Cheryl Fiandaca said.
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I'm still holding out hope for a good old fashioned perp walk video.
 
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The high end of Kraft's suspension needs to be what Irsay got.

We all know about the Irsay DUI, the drug possession, and the bags of cash in the car.

Do you know...
-He had run-ins with Indy police over drug use since 1995.
-He had a regular "personal masseuse" aka call girl.
-At one point he hired the masseuse's sister as his babysitter. Right away he started hitting on that babysitter, did tons of drugs with her, ended up buying her homes (plural) in the Indy area.
-Then she died of a drug overdose, shortly before Irsay was arrested, apparent using drugs he had provided.

Hookers, banging babysitters, coke, opioids, bags of cash, driving under the influence, drug peddling leading to a death... 6 games!

links for ya:

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...oubles-could-go-beyond-march-arrest/17319345/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-woman-dead-of-overdose-found-in-home-bought-by-irsay/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hadow-life-indianapolis-colts-owner-jim-irsay
 
outside shooter said:
The high end of Kraft's suspension needs to be what Irsay got.

We all know about the Irsay DUI, the drug possession, and the bags of cash in the car.

Do you know...
-He had run-ins with Indy police over drug use since 1995.
-He had a regular "personal masseuse" aka call girl.
-At one point he hired the masseuse's sister as his babysitter. Right away he started hitting on that babysitter, did tons of drugs with her, ended up buying her homes (plural) in the Indy area.
-Then she died of a drug overdose, shortly before Irsay was arrested, apparent using drugs he had provided.

Hookers, banging babysitters, coke, opioids, bags of cash, driving under the influence, drug peddling leading to a death... 6 games!

links for ya:

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...oubles-could-go-beyond-march-arrest/17319345/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-woman-dead-of-overdose-found-in-home-bought-by-irsay/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hadow-life-indianapolis-colts-owner-jim-irsay
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Who cares? This is about Robert Kraft illegally paying for sex. This issue has nothing to do with Irsay. But leave it to you to go there...

outside shooter said:
The high end of Kraft's suspension needs to be what Irsay got.

We all know about the Irsay DUI, the drug possession, and the bags of cash in the car.

Do you know...
-He had run-ins with Indy police over drug use since 1995.
-He had a regular "personal masseuse" aka call girl.
-At one point he hired the masseuse's sister as his babysitter. Right away he started hitting on that babysitter, did tons of drugs with her, ended up buying her homes (plural) in the Indy area.
-Then she died of a drug overdose, shortly before Irsay was arrested, apparent using drugs he had provided.

Hookers, banging babysitters, coke, opioids, bags of cash, driving under the influence, drug peddling leading to a death... 6 games!

links for ya:

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...oubles-could-go-beyond-march-arrest/17319345/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-woman-dead-of-overdose-found-in-home-bought-by-irsay/

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hadow-life-indianapolis-colts-owner-jim-irsay
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Cream&Crimson said:
Who cares? This is about Robert Kraft illegally paying for sex. This issue has nothing to do with Irsay. But leave it to you to go there...
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Common sense is hard for you, isn't it?

The issue has everything to do with the punishment that the NFL will give out. Idiots on TV are calling for Kraft to be forced to sell the team, calling to take away draft picks, and other nonsense.

So naturally people with common sense look to see how other people in the same position were punished for misdeeds that are somewhat similar (though in Irsay's case, they were actually quite a bit worse).
 
outside shooter said:
Common sense is hard for you, isn't it?

The issue has everything to do with the punishment that the NFL will give out. Idiots on TV are calling for Kraft to be forced to sell the team, calling to take away draft picks, and other nonsense.

So naturally people with common sense look to see how other people in the same position were punished for misdeeds that are somewhat similar (though in Irsay's case, they were actually quite a bit worse).
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Maybe you should start a separate thread to give this the attention that it deserves.
 
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