RIP Jimmy Carter
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Pretty neat that CNN is having someone on who can make a sound case from the Right side of the aisle. I'm sure his views aren't given 50/50 airtime, but nice to see some intellectual diversity at the network.
What if he wrote letters attempting to influence foreign leaders against the goals of the sitting US gov’t?
Private citizens, even ex-Presidents, have a right to write anyone they want and express their opinions.
That said, he shouldn't have done that.
Legal, but bad form. Unlike many others, I've said several times that Carter was a bad President and a bad ex-President. I said it because of books he's written and things like this. He was a good humanitarian and seemed to be a good person, but that doesn't make him a good ex-President. GHWB and GWB were and are good ex-Presidents. They didn't get involved in the business of subsequent Presidents.
That being said, RIP Jimmy Carter.
First of all, people throw around allegations of Logan Act violations all the time. Some of these are more legitimate than others. Sometimes people interact with foreign leaders -- but not in any kind of way that could be construed as conducting foreign policy on behalf of the United States.
Second, I lumbered through a lot of that piece (and share many of the author's misgivings about Carter's stances and actions viz Israel, BTW). But I didn't see anything about letters he wrote to Arab leaders discouraging them from participating in a US led coalition for the Gulf War (or was it the Iraq War, I forget the allegation). Can you get me a better link?
I'm objecting to Jennings' use of the term "treason" -- or even "borderline treason" -- as hyperbole. Whatever one thinks about Jimmy Carter as a president, whatever one thinks about him as an ex-president, whatever one thinks about his stances on the Middle East....he's not Kim ****ing Philby. And the suggestion that he is is preposterous and offensive.
It's tacky for ex-presidents to criticize the current president, IMO. And it quickly gets worse than tacky when it involves foreign policy. It pains me to see those photos of Jimmy Carter with Ismail Haniyeh -- a man who openly celebrated mass murder and promised for more of it to come. I would hope that Carter came to regret having the relationship.
But to liken this to treason is reckless and slanderous.
I agree with this. Everybody has the right to say what they want in the US. And being an ex-president doesn't deprive you of that right. I personally think it's tacky for them to throw rocks at the incumbent president -- especially in the realm of foreign policy. But I also think that Donald Trump's demeanor has done a lot to damage norms like that (in fairness, Carter was doing this long before Trump came along).
I'd still like to see exactly what Carter wrote in these letters -- and what the context of them was. I don't recall it happening at all.
I still haven't figured this one out. Did someone get something wrong, or is there some Harrison-football connection I can't find?
Before my time but I'd never speak bad of any president dying. Lived a really long life my dad just died at 83 and he was 100.
There are five presidents who attended a college which also had a football player who went on to become the MVP of a Super Bowl.
One answer is Benjamin Harrison, Ben Roethlisberger, who attended the University of Miami, Ohio.
Goat, good catch.
Should simply be Super Bowl quarterback and not MVP.
Yep…Gerald Ford POTUS, Tom Terrific 5-time (😲) SB MVP.
Roger Staubach - MVP of SB VI, graduated USNA 1965.
Lt. James Earl Carter, 39th President of the United States, graduated USNA 1946.
Lt. James Earl Carter, 39th President of the United States, graduated USNA 1946.
Herbert Hoover, 31st President of the United States
Jim Plunkett, MVP of SB XV.
Stanford University
Jim Plunkett, MVP of SB XV.
Stanford University
Nah. I have all their schools and graduation years memorized.
You mean…you don’t?
Volcker was terrible. I'm surprised by the reaction of some on this board. While I'll preface, inflation had much more to do with outside forces than expanding monetary policy. And add, this was relatively new territory for the board. Volcker's board had rates way too high, for way too long.
Greenspan and others opined on this relatively soon after this period ended. And while they weren't overly critical, they were about as critical as FRB members get. IYKYK.
High prices are the solution to high prices. The board's policies hurt the economy. There was nothing remarkable about the amount of currency during that period. It was a supply issue. The high interest rates only exacerbated the problems. And as already mentioned, Reagan's policy shifts were the actual solution.
Like a train conductor, the board has F,N,and R. Volcker kept in full throttle F for far too long.
Digressions, can I put you down as a "supply side economics" supporter ?
How do you feel about raising taxes as part of balancing the budget
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Negative on the supply sider. There's a time and place for everything, though.Digressions, can I put you down as a "supply side economics" supporter ?
How do you feel about raising taxes as part of balancing the budget
I feel like you already know the answers, hoot.
I appreciate you, buddy.The other one just hit me…
University of Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens. A couple regular Joes: Biden and Flacco!
Is that all 5 of them? Michigan, Delaware, Annapolis, Stanford, and Miami (OH).
Loved that cartoon.Did he make that claim too?
That entire show was groundbreaking. It’s held up well, too. It’s hard to believe that it premiered in the 1950s.
Some won't remember this (or weren't born), but this is famous Playboy interview:
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
Interview with "Playboy" Magazine | The American Presidency Project
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
The infamous Lust and Adultery in My Heart interview. Scandalous stuff back then that wouldn't even rate today.Some won't remember this (or weren't born), but this is famous Playboy interview:
Interview with "Playboy" Magazine | The American Presidency Project
If over/under for Trump is 45 in that poll, I’ll take the under.
