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RIP Ivana

This is the thing that's so odd. People keep attributing normal human traits to Donald Trump when he is not normal. He is a severely deranged person.
He's got fallible people working for him and one of them fvcked up. We don't need to react like the Trumpian kooks would if the shoe was on the other foot.
 
He's got fallible people working for him and one of them fvcked up. We don't need to react like the Trumpian kooks would if the shoe was on the other foot.
Trump is already trying to gin up the "I really didn't know what Mark Meadows was doing" narrative, according to a Rolling Stone article that came out today:

 
Trump is already trying to gin up the "I really didn't know what Mark Meadows was doing" narrative, according to a Rolling Stone article that came out today:


Sure, but that has nothing to do with the email about Ivana.
 
I cannot with you. Do you not know even the least bit about pregnancy? You want to put a 10 year old child through that? You need to pray on that one, it’s truly repulsive.
This is once again where you get totally myopic. He offered an option, NOT an opinion. Will you offer your opinion on what this little girl may go through in 20 yrs when she realizes that she killed her baby and thinking of what they could be shareing together at that time, had it been alive? What emotional crap will she go through at that point? Not being able to look into her childs eyes, share it's thoughts.
OH you worry about 9 months of pregnancy,which is important of course. But what about making a FATAL decision that last the entire rest of her life?
Again, I am glad I don't have to help make this decision. But your Holy knowledge based on you having a cooter and uncontrollable emotions, are not overpowering qualifiers here. There are always multiple options. Sometimes, they are all painful and terrible.
I pray that this little girl can somehow find peace and a path in life. She is starting off well behind the curve of normality because of an illegal invitee from a shit hole life the he brought upon us. Thanks Brandon!
Van being the message of good, had the intent of, "if every options sucks, which one sucks the least?"
 
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I'm surprised it isn't directly included in the sentences from Trump.

"Honor Ivana's memory by making a donation to our... um...legal defense fund. Yeah that's it. We'll also send you a coupon to get 5 MAGA hats for the price of 4."
 
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This is once again where you get totally myopic. He offered an option, NOT an opinion. Will you offer your opinion on what this little girl may go through in 20 yrs when she realizes that she killed her baby and thinking of what they could be shareing together at that time, had it been alive? What emotional crap will she go through at that point? Not being able to look into her childs eyes, share it's thoughts.
OH you worry about 9 months of pregnancy,which is important of course. But what about making a FATAL decision that last the entire rest of her life?
Again, I am glad I don't have to help make this decision. But your Holy knowledge based on you having a cooter and uncontrollable emotions, are not overpowering qualifiers here. There are always multiple options. Sometimes, they are all painful and terrible.
I pray that this little girl can somehow find peace and a path in life. She is starting off well behind the curve of normality because of an illegal invitee from a shit hole life the he brought upon us. Thanks Brandon!
Van being the message of good, had the intent of, "if every options sucks, which one sucks the least?"

You still turn me on though.
How do you know he came here during the Biden administration?
 
That's what your wife told me last night. Ask her.
Joke’s on you. My wife just had surgery and is in a great deal of pain during her recovery. So I’m sure she wasn’t a lot of fun to be around.

On another note, I truly feel sorry for your stunted interpersonal growth.
 
This is once again where you get totally myopic. He offered an option, NOT an opinion. Will you offer your opinion on what this little girl may go through in 20 yrs when she realizes that she killed her baby and thinking of what they could be shareing together at that time, had it been alive? What emotional crap will she go through at that point? Not being able to look into her childs eyes, share it's thoughts.
OH you worry about 9 months of pregnancy,which is important of course. But what about making a FATAL decision that last the entire rest of her life?
Again, I am glad I don't have to help make this decision. But your Holy knowledge based on you having a cooter and uncontrollable emotions, are not overpowering qualifiers here. There are always multiple options. Sometimes, they are all painful and terrible.
I pray that this little girl can somehow find peace and a path in life. She is starting off well behind the curve of normality because of an illegal invitee from a shit hole life the he brought upon us. Thanks Brandon!
Van being the message of good, had the intent of, "if every options sucks, which one sucks the least?"

You still turn me on though.
And if this pregnancy, brought to full term in her 10 year old body, renders her barren for the rest of her life, what then? She could have had 17 children with her husband later in life, but now those souls are lost to the void forever.

This FATAL decision might have saved lives in the future. You don't know what the future holds and neither do I. But I do know that the odds of complications in a 10 year old pregnancy are high, and the longer she waited, the odds of those complications in both this pregnancy (for both herself and the fetus) and future ones increased.

Yeah, it's a sucky situation all around, but if she wanted to ensure a chance at a normal life later, this was probably the right call.
 
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Joke’s on you. My wife just had surgery and is in a great deal of pain during her recovery. So I’m sure she wasn’t a lot of fun to be around.

On another note, I truly feel sorry for your stunted interpersonal growth.
You do actually realize that “yo momma” jokes, aren’t really about yo momma (wife), right?
What kind of surgery? I hope she feels better soon. My words of experience, don’t rush recovery! Let things get healed more than she expects are needed before pushing it. A ruptured incision is something I wouldn’t wish on comic kid!
 
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This is once again where you get totally myopic. He offered an option, NOT an opinion. Will you offer your opinion on what this little girl may go through in 20 yrs when she realizes that she killed her baby and thinking of what they could be shareing together at that time, had it been alive? What emotional crap will she go through at that point? Not being able to look into her childs eyes, share it's thoughts.
OH you worry about 9 months of pregnancy,which is important of course. But what about making a FATAL decision that last the entire rest of her life?
Again, I am glad I don't have to help make this decision. But your Holy knowledge based on you having a cooter and uncontrollable emotions, are not overpowering qualifiers here. There are always multiple options. Sometimes, they are all painful and terrible.
I pray that this little girl can somehow find peace and a path in life. She is starting off well behind the curve of normality because of an illegal invitee from a shit hole life the he brought upon us. Thanks Brandon!
Van being the message of good, had the intent of, "if every options sucks, which one sucks the least?"

You still turn me on though.
You are such a piece of crap. Literally the lowest of the low on this board. You should be banned.

Your use of the word prayer is laughable. You are everything that is wrong with Christianity.
 
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You are such a piece of crap. Literally the lowest of the low on this board. You should be banned.

Your use of the word prayer is laughable. You are everything that is wrong with Christianity.
You say that knowing that zeke and I will have an adventurous 2-3 month relationship!
 
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She has already gone through tremendous heartache. I feel terrible for her. My argument is how can you lessen the trauma. I don't think that the abortion achieves the healing she needs. Man, this is a messed up situation. There are no great decisions. Each has its own set of problems. I mentioned in another thread that the Evangelist James Robison was the product of a date rape. His mother went ahead and had him. He grew up, got married, had kids, and grandkids. I would think his mother was glad she had him.

That's all fine and dandy, but this little girl shouldn't have to live with a pregnancy that she didn't want nor willingly participate in and thus wanted to abort. She is 10, one year older then my daughter, who is going to be going into 4th grade.

Your beliefs have no meaning here, only hers. It should be her decision to make, which she did, period. Especially because of her situation, the discussion should end there.
 
That's all fine and dandy, but this little girl shouldn't have to live with a pregnancy that she didn't want nor willingly participate in and thus wanted to abort. She is 10, one year older then my daughter, who is going to be going into 4th grade.

Your beliefs have no meaning here, only hers. It should be her decision to make, which she did, period. Especially because of her situation, the discussion should end there.
So terrible to think about any girl going through that, much less one that age.

There's no way she would be ready for natural birth. But our dear Pastor would tell her to carry it to term anyway. It's just a C-section he would say.
 
These are the people who don't believe vaccines work. VPM spends his days reading and preaching Bronze Age folklore to his "flock".

No way anyone is going to change these lunatics mind if they think a 10 year old rape victim should bring a pregnancy to term.

Their minds are unsound.
The Covid vaccine, as per the definition of a vaccine, does not work in providing immunity. It should be relabeled as medicine like aspirin, antacid, or penicillin, since at most, it may lessen symptoms or improve rate of survival. Of course, actual definitions of words don’t mean much to folks like you anyway, so I’m sure you’ll label it whatever you want or suggest the definition is wrong.🙂
 
Exactly. No one is celebrating having an abortion. No one is "pro" abortion.
Yes they are. “Pro” means in favor of, which you are. Your lessons in the English language will continue, words matter.
 
Who knew that a post that started as an RIP to a former President's ex-wife would turn into a shit show?

(Checks notes)

Everyone. Apparently everyone knew. This thread really went off the rails.
 
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That’s nothing compared to all the conservatives saying a 10 year old Ohio girl that was raped and then traveled to indiana to have an abortion was not true.


On top of that, Indiana AG , Todd Rokita, says he’s investigating the doctor who preformed the abortion. You bastards would make that 10 year old girl have the baby. That’s truly miserable.
After saying it was a lie and now turning the whole thing into an evil illegal immigrant issue.
“Never let a brown person behaving badly go to waste”
-Republicans
 
This is once again where you get totally myopic. He offered an option, NOT an opinion. Will you offer your opinion on what this little girl may go through in 20 yrs when she realizes that she killed her baby and thinking of what they could be shareing together at that time, had it been alive? What emotional crap will she go through at that point? Not being able to look into her childs eyes, share it's thoughts.
OH you worry about 9 months of pregnancy,which is important of course. But what about making a FATAL decision that last the entire rest of her life?
Again, I am glad I don't have to help make this decision. But your Holy knowledge based on you having a cooter and uncontrollable emotions, are not overpowering qualifiers here. There are always multiple options. Sometimes, they are all painful and terrible.
I pray that this little girl can somehow find peace and a path in life. She is starting off well behind the curve of normality because of an illegal invitee from a shit hole life the he brought upon us. Thanks Brandon!
Van being the message of good, had the intent of, "if every options sucks, which one sucks the least?"

You still turn me on though.
What?
 
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I had to think about it but yes i have

Maybe not when it's 10 degrees out.
You have deer in the neighborhood? If so, it’s your responsibility to pee outside several times each day, regardless of temperature or precipitation.
 
You have deer in the neighborhood? If so, it’s your responsibility to pee outside several times each day, regardless of temperature or precipitation.
We have rabbits and chipmunks. They eat the damn lilys every year. Wife hates them with a passion but we just can't bring ourselves to handle the situation like our neighbor. Crazy old bastard traps the chipmunks then grabs the rope attached to it and dunks the trap in the creek behind our houses.

Brutal.
 
We have rabbits and chipmunks. They eat the damn lilys every year. Wife hates them with a passion but we just can't bring ourselves to handle the situation like our neighbor. Crazy old bastard traps the chipmunks then grabs the rope attached to it and dunks the trap in the creek behind our houses.

That's ugly.

My wife feeds the chipmunks. And the squirrels. And the groundhog family living under the shed. And most anything else that wanders through. And the birds of course.
 
That's ugly.

My wife feeds the chipmunks. And the squirrels. And the groundhog family living under the shed. And most anything else that wanders through. And the birds of course.
And you.....zing!

He's an odd one. He and his wife are both 80+. She still smokes in a petticoat in the driveway b/c he won't let her smoke inside anymore.
 
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And you.....zing!

He's an odd one. He and his wife are both 80+. She still smokes in a petticoat in the driveway b/c he won't let her smoke inside anymore.
In a petticoat!!! I have t seen one or thought of that word in a million years!!! They still make petticoats? There’s a piece of nostalgia…
 
In a petticoat!!! I have t seen one or thought of that word in a million years!!! They still make petticoats? There’s a piece of nostalgia…
Even when it's 85 degrees out.

And slippers

They're nice people other than his willingness to commit genocide on small woodland creatures.
 
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That's all fine and dandy, but this little girl shouldn't have to live with a pregnancy that she didn't want nor willingly participate in and thus wanted to abort. She is 10, one year older then my daughter, who is going to be going into 4th grade.

Your beliefs have no meaning here, only hers. It should be her decision to make, which she did, period. Especially because of her situation, the discussion should end there.
Going through the pregnancy is bad enough, but if they had made her have the child but let her give it away, she'd be wondering the rest of her life if someone like Charles Manson (born to a 15-year-old mother) will some day get a court order for his birth records to learn her name and then knock on the door to say, "Hi, Mom."
 
That's all fine and dandy, but this little girl shouldn't have to live with a pregnancy that she didn't want nor willingly participate in and thus wanted to abort. She is 10, one year older then my daughter, who is going to be going into 4th grade.

Your beliefs have no meaning here, only hers. It should be her decision to make, which she did, period. Especially because of her situation, the discussion should end there.
What if she was given the option to have the baby and give it up? Would you be ok with that? Who took her to Indiana and why did she have to go there? The Ohio law would have allowed her to get an abortion in Ohio. My issue is believing that an abortion necessarily has to be the best avenue for her healing. I absolutely do not believe this to be so. The issue with this girl who is 10 for crying out loud is that she was repeatedly raped.
 
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