Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!Wouldn't you?
Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!Wouldn't you?
I think this kind of case is the perfect example of why it's possible for someone to be "pro-life" and "pro-choice" at the same time. I personally would prefer to avoid abortion in every case possible, but I just don't see how it's appropriate for the government to be making that call instead of the woman, and this is exactly why.This is truly not a criticism: That’s your opinion. Clearly others think differently. Because as good intentioned as you may be, how you would feel or how you think you would feel have no relevance to this particular girl
In these situations, shouldn’t we be satisfied that such a personal and traumatic situation is decided between the girl, her parents, and her doctor?
Assuming she could carry a baby to term safely (which I’m skeptical of), would she be happier for having done it in retrospect? Possibly, I guess. Are any of us remotely qualified to make that decision for her? Hell to the no. This case is the most clear cut example of “her body, her choice.”
Exactly. No one is celebrating having an abortion. No one is "pro" abortion.I think this kind of case is the perfect example of why it's possible for someone to be "pro-life" and "pro-choice" at the same time. I personally would prefer to avoid abortion in every case possible, but I just don't see how it's appropriate for the government to be making that call instead of the woman, and this is exactly why.
Meh. I don't think that's true. I think a lot of activists celebrate it as some sort of women's lib in practice. I'm not saying the women actually getting the abortions are doing this. But I think quite a few of the activists who imagine they are giving those women support are doing this.Exactly. No one is celebrating having an abortion. No one is "pro" abortion.
Well, that's obviously anecdotal. I've known people who've gotten abortions and it has been incredibly traumatic. Both for the guy and the woman.Meh. I don't think that's true. I think a lot of activists celebrate it as some sort of women's lib in practice. I'm not saying the women actually getting the abortions are doing this. But I think quite a few of the activists who imagine they are giving those women support are doing this.
Yes, that's why I made a distinction between the patients and the activists. Did you listen to the interview on NPR a couple of weeks ago with the woman who had to get an abortion because she found out her baby had a universally fatal trisomy? It was heart-breaking, but what struck me was her anger at both conservatives and liberals, who she felt failed to even attempt to understand her pain and reasoning, although for obviously wildly different reasons.Well, that's obviously anecdotal. I've known people who've gotten abortions and it has been incredibly traumatic. Both for the guy and the woman.
I would lock him in a room with you, Lucy01, DANC, and Mas-sa-suta. For him that's suffering a fate worse than death. Then he might just kill himself to get it over with.Let me ask you this. Are you ok if we put this rapist to death?
Yes, but you have now told your story twice about "the Evangelist James Robison," within a week of claiming you do not inject religion in your posts. Admit it -- an Evangelist is a religious figure in Protestant churches.She has already gone through tremendous heartache. I feel terrible for her. My argument is how can you lessen the trauma. I don't think that the abortion achieves the healing she needs. Man, this is a messed up situation. There are no great decisions. Each has its own set of problems. I mentioned in another thread that the Evangelist James Robison was the product of a date rape. His mother went ahead and had him. He grew up, got married, had kids, and grandkids. I would think his mother was glad she had him.
Please get the 2nd booster!These are the people who don't believe vaccines work. VPM spends his days reading and preaching Bronze Age folklore to his "flock".
No way anyone is going to change these lunatics mind if they think a 10 year old rape victim should bring a pregnancy to term.
Their minds are unsound.
I cannot with you. Do you not know even the least bit about pregnancy? You want to put a 10 year old child through that? You need to pray on that one, it’s truly repulsive.Now hold on. How does having an abortion bring any kind of healing to a 10 yr old who was raped? What if she gave the baby up for adoption. She could know that this child born out of violence could do something good in the world. Maybe that would bring better healing than having an abortion.
This dude should go to jail. Way worse than death. Hell they might even take matters into their own hands.I am. As long as it isn't done too quickly or painlessly. I think it should be prolonged out over 9 months, involve a cantaloupe, exlax, stirups and Lamaze techiniques.
Yes, exactly.Yes, that's why I made a distinction between the patients and the activists. Did you listen to the interview on NPR a couple of weeks ago with the woman who had to get an abortion because she found out her baby had a universally fatal trisomy? It was heart-breaking, but what struck me was her anger at both conservatives and liberals, who she felt failed to even attempt to understand her pain and reasoning, although for obviously wildly different reasons.
yes, Gavin Newsome, have to assume he traded up, she is a horrible personDo you know who that "beat looking woman" was previously married to?
Huh?yes, Gavin Newsome, have to assume he traded up, she is a horrible person
You can talk about that with your toothless friends at the gas station this weekend.Please get the 2nd booster!
Do you remember why they broke up? She wasn't the only "horrible person" in that relationship.yes, Gavin Newsome, have to assume he traded up, she is a horrible person
That’s fake. lol you guys fall for anything
no, why did they break up?Do you remember why they broke up? She wasn't the only "horrible person" in that relationship.
Honestly, that's probably just a footer that gets appended to all of their emails. I mean, obviously, someone with a brain should have turned the footer off before sending that, but it probably wasn't on purpose.
He banged his campaign manager's wife. Granted, he was probably really, really drunk when he did it.no, why did they break up?
Dude, shut the hell up.Now hold on. How does having an abortion bring any kind of healing to a 10 yr old who was raped? What if she gave the baby up for adoption. She could know that this child born out of violence could do something good in the world. Maybe that would bring better healing than having an abortion.
I'm waiting for your apology.That’s fake. lol you guys fall for anything
Fake
That wasn't my question. If it was a capital offense would you be ok with the rapist being killed for his actions?Is rape a capital offense?
It's not fake. Multiple people shared the email independently. Go check your inbox, I bet you'll find it there.That’s fake. lol you guys fall for anything
I'm going to hold off saying what I'd really like to you.How so? There are not great decisions here. All of them stink. Mine at least gives the child a chance and for the 10 yr old rape victim to find some kind of healing and closure. The damage has been done by this monster.
That is an incredibly lame excuse. If you're going to put out a statement about your ex-wife's death, make damned sure it doesn't have a fundraising link.Honestly, that's probably just a footer that gets appended to all of their emails. I mean, obviously, someone with a brain should have turned the footer off before sending that, but it probably wasn't on purpose.
Is it possible Trump posted his eulogy for Ivana on Twitter instead of Truth Social?
It's an email from his PAC. He probably didn't do it. Some intern probably did. They screen capped his truth social post and stuck it in an email.That is an incredibly lame excuse. If you're going to put out a statement about your ex-wife's death, make damned sure it doesn't have a fundraising link.
And...do you really think this isn't something DJT would do? The guy is already throwing Ivanka under the bus for her Jan 6 testimony. He. Does. Not. Care.
Do you ever have anything interesting to say here...even accidentally?We got him now!!
It's his PAC.It's an email from his PAC. He probably didn't do it. Some intern probably did. They screen capped his truth social post and stuck it in an email.
OK, we'll wait for a list of the firings resulting from this mistaken posting to show Trump's sensitivity to commercialization of her death (but we won't hold our breath).It's an email from his PAC. He probably didn't do it. Some intern probably did. They screen capped his truth social post and stuck it in an email.
This is the thing that's so odd. People keep attributing normal human traits to Donald Trump when he is not normal. He is a severely deranged person.OK, we'll wait for a list of the firings resulting from this mistaken posting to show Trump's sensitivity to commercialization of her death (but we won't hold our breath).