No issue. I still haven't seen anything saying the coaches control it. Have you?
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They don’t control it but they let them know the priority recruit
If a collective raises $5-mil and spends $4-mil, doesn't that give them $1-mil to add to next years funds?
I don't really know?
Jesus dude. If it’s public it’s to be made public!!!! Public is key word. It’s private funds bro. You might not like it but it’s absolutely private funds outside the public university. Good luck changing that. Now if they end up being public employee with a bargaining union it still won’t stop nil. It shouldn’t be any of your or my business.
They don’t control it, but they’re extremely aligned. How else could it work?
Collectives don’t know anything about these recruits and they aren’t going to do their own independent valuations of each player. The staff knows how much NIL is available and the collectives know what players the staff wants and their ask.
I don’t know either. Probably — I don’t think someone would pull their donation.
Says who? The ncaa? If I want to pay a kid to wash dishes or mow my lawn and hand out tickets to watch for a million who cares. You missed the point that the ncaa is dead. Who is going to stop it? Long drawn out court battles? So far the courts aren’t interested in stopping this. You think congress has this high on the agenda m? Hell no.
The coach or the university doesn't decide how much NIL money the player gets, or apportion the collective NIL to the players. That's between the player and the collective or the sponsors.
The coach probably expresses to the NIL collective his assesment of the player's value. But the payment is not from the coach.
If the coach is doling out money to the players from a "NIL pool" then I've gravely misunderstood how NIL works.
I disagree because they wouldn't be getting any funds at all without playing for the university and disclosure is coming:
Division I Council approves NIL disclosure and transparency rules - NCAA.org
The Division I Council on Wednesday unanimously adopted a proposal to address student-athlete protections related to name, image and likeness effective Aug. 1.
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I don't want this to operate like a legalized version of the illegal under the table pay for play that existed at the dirty universities.
Agree. We are on the same page. The coach doesn’t directly control the NIL but they bring in the recruits and the collectives are aligned with the recruits value.
Sometimes it’s easier to say a coach spends NIL despite the actual mechanics being a few more steps.
Well, yeah, maybe, but in return for that last year, Painter taught Edey how to drill off-balance three-pointers, didn't he? Right?
From the Purdue comments, Painter apparently prepared Edey for an NBA career where nobody can defend all his brilliant fullcourt ballhandling "skills", all his brilliant three point shooting "skills" and all his brilliant under-basket-against-smaller-opponents-with-incompetent-Big-Ten-Refs "skills".
Good luck, Edey, now that it's serious.
Not true. They can leave and take the money. Already happens. That is one part that was stipulated by the courts. They are not bound by playing for said university. You missed that part. I’ll assure you if that’s happening then they do have precedence to go after them.I completely disagree because they wouldn't be getting any funds at all without playing for the university and disclosure is coming:
Division I Council approves NIL disclosure and transparency rules - NCAA.org
The Division I Council on Wednesday unanimously adopted a proposal to address student-athlete protections related to name, image and likeness effective Aug. 1.
A player getting NIL money for playing for IU is only getting that money because he's playing for IU. There's a direct connection. He leaves, he gets no more money from that deal, he must get another.
There will be more transparency. It's coming. Right now it's the wild west and it needs to be brought under control a bit. I don't think it's sustainable as it is.
Who will give transparency rules? It’s governed by each state not the NCAA. The NCAA might try but all it takes is one state to get an injunction. Congress isn’t going to. No state is going to go against the state school either.
The NCAA will try and probably will get it done. At this point the NCAA is like the NBA and NFL, and they’ll establish rules for all their teams similarly.
No freaking chance. Have you not been paying attention? NCAA isn’t at all like those. The NCAA put the wall up that keeps it from being a collective bargaining salary. Remember…this isn’t a federal thing it’s a state thing. The scotus ruling sent it back to the states. Each state handles NIL separately. The states of Tennessee and West Va just smacked them again that the ncaa has no jurisdiction over NIL.
Money is power. They own the tournament and it’s tons of money. They have power.
No they don’t when it comes to NIL. NCAA needs to be careful or everyone will separate and have their own tourney.
We’ve reached the point where I picture you jumping up and down and screaming, “THEY HAVE NO POWER” and threatening to hold your breath until I agree. 😄 It’s OK. We shall see.
He’s right. The B1G and SEC have leverage now. They now control the destiny. NCAA is over.
I'll take that bet.. Don't see that at all in his game he is a mid range pick and roll player.
So you would consider getting three of your four guards from the transfers portal as filling a “spot of need.” Your words.
The NCCA owns the tournament and the TV contract through 2032. That’s tons of bucks and power.
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Has nothing to do with court rulings. They had money and power back then. Still got owned for 3 years. If anything congress hates the bullying the ncaa has done. Remember they are supposed to have the best interest of the students. They don’t.
GOP, Dem lawmakers take aim at NCAA's 'monopoly power' over college sports | Fox News
A bipartisan group of House lawmakers is looking to curb the NCAA's "monopoly power" over individuals and universities under investigation by the body.
But that power and bucks were neutered by the courts when it comes to NIL.
Have you not been paying attention to the rulings?
Just take the L. It’s already been ruled on in regards to the NCAA. They are fighting dozens of court cases in many states. They are toast.
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