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RFK to HHS

From trannies wanting to mutilate the balls of little kids to antivaxxers

Can’t we ever stop in the middle anymore
 
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No he’s not. You have comprehension issues and or mad bias.
I think you two could have a rational and productive conversation here (actually, have already done it well) but it would be a lot better to drop the shitlib/MAGA labels and personal stuff.

I think you have a good faith position and Marv is pushing you on the margins. I believe you that you are not anti-vaxx but skeptical of the COVID vax. RFK Jr. clearly is skeptical, wants more transparency, but has said he won't take vaccines off the table.

It could be, though, that having a prominent person like him as Sec. of HHS will further depress vaccine #'s among the general populace to a dangerous level. Remember for most vaccines to work well, they have to be administered to a certain % of the population.


So even if he doesn't push law or policy that affects the vax rates, his attitudes might be legitimized in a way just from his appointment so as to cause harm to the US (and maybe the world).
 
Here's a recent write up:

Thanks for the article. No, he isn't anti-vaxx. I mean he says so, what in below would possibly mean he is anti-vaxx:

when asked if there were any safe and effective vaccines on the market, Kennedy told podcaster Lex Fridman, there are "no" vaccines in that category.​
Fridman pushed Kennedy on the polio vaccine—which is widely considered one of the other greatest medical advances of the 20th century and has been estimated to save more than 1.5 million lives and prevented paralysis in more than 20 million children—but Kennedy suggested the vaccine killed more people than it saved.​
 
Fridman pushed Kennedy on the polio vaccine—which is widely considered one of the other greatest medical advances of the 20th century and has been estimated to save more than 1.5 million lives and prevented paralysis in more than 20 million children—but Kennedy suggested the vaccine killed more people than it saved.​
Even better would be smallpox. Modern humans seem to have no idea of the historical death toll of smallpox. Smallpox killed over 300 million people in the 20th century alone, before its eradication. In 70 years. It was around for over 3,000 years. Killed Egyptian pharohs, Greek scholars, Roman statesmen, and countless soldiers in every army ever, before the 1970s.

You think war is bad? Smallpox says "hold my beer". Smallpox's historical death toll dwarfs the death toll of all wars in human history, combined, by a factor of over a thousand.

 
Every drug has a risk-benefit ratio. The risk is indeed never zero, but the benefits can be enormous.

It must be compared, always, to an unvaccinated control group, which typically has much higher risks of severe outcomes and none of the benefits of enhancing immunity, at least until after what may be a severe outcome.

Should you vaccinate for a common cold? No. The benefits are minimal. But COVID? Damn straight. Saved MILLIONS of lives worldwide.


Did you thank Donald for saving millions of lives?
 
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Did you thank Donald for saving millions of lives?
Of course. Supporting vaccine development was the best thing he ever did. But then he found political gain in pushing wackadoodle ideas, like sticking UV lamps up your butt and putting bleach in your veins. Like a cleaning!
 
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Even better would be smallpox. Modern humans seem to have no idea of the historical death toll of smallpox. Smallpox killed over 300 million people in the 20th century alone, before its eradication. In 70 years. It was around for over 3,000 years. Killed Egyptian pharohs, Greek scholars, Roman statesmen, and countless soldiers in every army ever, before the 1970s.

You think war is bad? Smallpox says "hold my beer". Smallpox's historical death toll dwarfs the death toll of all wars in human history, combined, by a factor of over a thousand.

In honor of Thanksgiving, let's not forget...

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I don't remember Archie having many fans but there was definitely a Crean cult. Some of the conversations I had with those clowns were hysterical. "Cmon dbm it's not his fault. No one could've known Syracuse would play a zone."
You know, that game was the turning point with me for Crean. I was very sympathetic of him and appreciative of the fact he started from ground zero.

But that game was so inexplicable to me. Not that we lost, but that we had zero - ZERO - clue how to attack that zone. And he'd faced that same zone countless times when he coached Marquette.

To this day, it still pisses me off and it's just.... inexplicable is the only word to describe it.

At least the man knew how to recruit - and use - 3 point shooters.
 
I had the vaccine, Feb of 2021. Got covid anyway 8 months later in October. I was able to get antibody treatment. Even so it ramped up fast, enough to make me nervous, but for only a couple days but then eased off. I was glad I had the vaccine and treatment.
Got vaxxed again that winter, then got covid again the next fall, a mild case.
Last fall I said the hell with another dose! No covid.
This fall, again said the hell with it. So far so good.
Mixed bag... But glad I had it before that first one.
Pretty much my experience. I had no boosters after the first vaccines and haven't got Covid I had it after I had the original vaccine.

I'm not sure the initial one had anything to do with it, since I never got Covid before that.
 
what is the point of arguing with the idiots on here? It has to get old for you, I don't agree with you politically, but you are so much more informed and rational than these morons. these Trump nominations are at best ridiculous at worst they are dangerous. read an article tonight that MTG thinks Gaetz will prosecute Fauci for crimes against humanity. we are a country of uneducated easily influenced idiots, sad to watch
lmao High praise from an alcoholic/drunk
 
Of course. Supporting vaccine development was the best thing he ever did. But then he found political gain in pushing wackadoodle ideas, like sticking UV lamps up your butt and putting bleach in your veins. Like a cleaning!


Well.....what was your figure on lives saved? 14.4 M? If 1 person died from bleach in his veins, the Donald would still be up 14.399,999. Meanwhile, most would have been dead if your hero, Fauci, had been in charge. As I recall, he said it would take YEARS to come up with an effective vaccine, if one was possible. You might even say he was a denier.

What other president in history can make a claim to having been responsible for personally saving 14M lives?
 
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what is the point of arguing with the idiots on here? It has to get old for you, I don't agree with you politically, but you are so much more informed and rational than these morons. these Trump nominations are at best ridiculous at worst they are dangerous. read an article tonight that MTG thinks Gaetz will prosecute Fauci for crimes against humanity. we are a country of uneducated easily influenced idiots, sad to watch
I find it very embarrassing that there are so many self-described Republicans that "know" so much that just isn't so. I'm hoping at least one of them will eventually understand that.
 
The leap that the far right took from the Covid vaccine to all vaccines are bad is wild. Look, you don’t want to get the Covid vaccine or flu shot, fine. But adults not immunizing their children from polio, measles, etc. is neglect at best.
Who does that? Who thinks all vaccines are bad?

Or is this just another caricature of MAGA that the media has sold you?

I'm not saying there aren't individuals who believe that - you can find crazies anywhere.
 
You know, that game was the turning point with me for Crean. I was very sympathetic of him and appreciative of the fact he started from ground zero.

But that game was so inexplicable to me. Not that we lost, but that we had zero - ZERO - clue how to attack that zone. And he'd faced that same zone countless times when he coached Marquette.

To this day, it still pisses me off and it's just.... inexplicable is the only word to describe it.

At least the man knew how to recruit - and use - 3 point shooters.

Crean was 0-4 against Boeheim. So beating that zone wasn't something he ever figured out. But that team should never have struggled that much.

 
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Of course. Supporting vaccine development was the best thing he ever did. But then he found political gain in pushing wackadoodle ideas, like sticking UV lamps up your butt and putting bleach in your veins. Like a cleaning!
You just keep lying.... sad
 
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