Republican overconfidence

[BradStevens]

For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

A New Rallying Cry for the Irony-Poisoned Right

It took less than twenty-four hours after Trump’s reëlection for young men to take up a slogan that could define the coming era of gendered regression: “Your body, my choice.”

www.newyorker.com

 

[mcmurtry66]

For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Beachside if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

A New Rallying Cry for the Irony-Poisoned Right

It took less than twenty-four hours after Trump’s reëlection for young men to take up a slogan that could define the coming era of gendered regression: “Your body, my choice.”

www.newyorker.com

MANDATE SON!!!!

Half the country disagrees with the other half yet they go all in. Transformative to a mandate. It’s so dumb

 

[BradStevens]

MANDATE SON!!!!

Half the country disagrees with the other half yet they go all in. Transformative to a mandate. It’s so dumb

Trump and Vance just won. They have four years in front of them. I don't think it would cost them a thing to come out and say that messaging is counter productive, let's pick another.

 

[snarlcakes]

For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

A New Rallying Cry for the Irony-Poisoned Right

It took less than twenty-four hours after Trump’s reëlection for young men to take up a slogan that could define the coming era of gendered regression: “Your body, my choice.”

www.newyorker.com

 

[BradStevens]

You can do that with anything. Like Biden calling Trump supporters garbage. But language and stuff like this that takes off on Twitter has real effects. Again, this is just so easy, so risk-free for Vance to drop a Tweet "Let's fight, let's be humorous, but let's be smart about our language."

From that article (that is slanted and ridiculous at some points):

On Election Night, Fuentes tweeted, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” Young men began parroting him, commenting “Your body, my choice” on young women’s social-media accounts; the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank focussed on extremism, found, within a twenty-four-hour period, a “4,600% increase in mentions of the terms ‘your body, my choice’ and ‘get back in the kitchen’ on X”

I hadn't heard about it until my neighbor brought it up. He's worried about someone saying this to his teenage daughter, which I laughed off, but had to admit that this messaging and phrasing is ill-conceived.

 

[snarlcakes]

You can do that with anything. Like Biden calling Trump supporters garbage. But language and stuff like this that takes off on Twitter has real effects. Again, this is just so easy, so risk-free for Vance to drop a Tweet "Let's fight, let's be humorous, but let's be smart about our language."

From that article (that is slanted and ridiculous at some points):

On Election Night, Fuentes tweeted, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” Young men began parroting him, commenting “Your body, my choice” on young women’s social-media accounts; the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank focussed on extremism, found, within a twenty-four-hour period, a “4,600% increase in mentions of the terms ‘your body, my choice’ and ‘get back in the kitchen’ on X”

I hadn't heard about it until my neighbor brought it up. He's worried about someone saying this to his teenage daughter, which I laughed off, but had to admit that this messaging and phrasing is ill-conceived.

for my spoiler.

Nick Fuentes is f#ck twat and……..

Spoiler

your neighbor sounds like a p#%#y

 

[mcmurtry66]

for my spoiler.

Nick Fuentes is f#ck twat and……..

Daisy Fuentes will be 58 tomorrow. Let that sink in

 

[snarlcakes]

Daisy Fuentes will be 58 tomorrow. Let that sink in

I kept thinking about Rosie’s side boob in White Men Can’t Jump after seeing her at the fight last night.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I kept thinking about Rosie’s side boob in White Men Can’t Jump after seeing her at the fight last night.

That entire crew was the weirdest shit ever. Like they were pulled from a hat. Okay the chick from champions league. And the next pick. Cedric the entertainer!!!

 

[snarlcakes]

That entire crew was the weirdest shit ever. Like they were pulled from a hat. Okay the chick from champions league. And the next pick. Cedric the entertainer!!!

That hat 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

 

[BradStevens]

I kept thinking about Rosie’s side boob in White Men Can’t Jump after seeing her at the fight last night.

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You're welcome.

 

[BradStevens]

Daisy Fuentes will be 58 tomorrow. Let that sink in

You guys who don't post pics with these references need to be fined out of existence @Univee2

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Sometimes in the mid 80s, Patrick Caddell said that the Democrats would not win another election in the 20th century. The growth of southern states was too much to overcome. That didn't pan out.

Elections are snapshots of a moment in time. The moment of November 5, 2024 will never return.

 

[IUCrazy2]

For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

A New Rallying Cry for the Irony-Poisoned Right

It took less than twenty-four hours after Trump’s reëlection for young men to take up a slogan that could define the coming era of gendered regression: “Your body, my choice.”

www.newyorker.com

I think that we have an overly online group of people in the country. I have seen one guy online post that comment and he is a racist douche canoe. I imagine there have been some other lovely trolls here and there saying that phrase but people need to get offline. It isn't reality.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

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You're welcome.

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I hit that once.

 

[NPT]

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same?

Of course they are. They'll never learm and neither with the Democrats.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Trump and Vance just won. They have four years in front of them. I don't think it would cost them a thing to come out and say that messaging is counter productive, let's pick another.

To do so would suggest they have any equity in the messaging to begin with.

And I don’t think they do. Nick Fuentes is a kook and I just don’t buy into the notion that politicians should feel obliged to denounce things that random people say.

I would think differently if he did have any equity in it - if it was said by somebody on their campaign or something like that.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

To do so would suggest they have any equity in the messaging to begin with.

And I don’t think they do. Nick Fuentes is a kook and I just don’t buy into the notion that politicians should feel obliged to denounce things that random people say.

I would think differently if he did have any equity in it - if it was said by somebody on their campaign or something like that.

* And, yes, I’m aware that Kanye West brought Fuentes along with him to dinner at Trump’s.

 

[dbmhoosier]

 

[Cortez88]

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I am clearly no fan of Trump or the Trump fanboys, but here’s the major problem I see. The normal Rs that voted Trump want to see certain conservative policies implemented and serious attention to the deficit, inflation, etc. However Trump and the fanboys are much more interested in trolling and sticking their fingers in peoples eyes. They love to cackle and howl about pissing people off and don’t really care about actually accomplishing anything of importance. Mainly because they just don’t care about any of that.

 

[Spartans9312]

I am clearly no fan of Trump or the Trump fanboys, but here’s the major problem I see. The normal Rs that voted Trump want to see certain conservative policies implemented and serious attention to the deficit, inflation, etc. However Trump and the fanboys are much more interested in trolling and sticking their fingers in peoples eyes. They love to cackle and howl about pissing people off and don’t really care about actually accomplishing anything of importance. Mainly because they just don’t care about any of that.

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These are the types of things the working class wants to see accomplished by Congress.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Four things will happen:

1. Secure the border and deport the illegals
2. Rebuild the economy
3. Rebuild the military and stop the pointless wars
4. Burn the deep state to the ground

More than that obviously but those I can guarantee.

 

[VanPastorMan]

Four things will happen:

1. Secure the border and deport the illegals
2. Rebuild the economy
3. Rebuild the military and stop the pointless wars
4. Burn the deep state to the ground

More than that obviously but those I can guarantee.

That would be a great political platform if they can do it. The Dems will do everything to be obstructionist on this wonderful agenda.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

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[Mas-sa-suta]

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U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) announced legislation to create the Parent Tax Credit, a historic tax cut to help working parents afford to start a family and raise their children. Through a fully refundable tax credit provided directly through automatic, monthly advances, Senator Hawley’s...

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These are the types of things the working class wants to see accomplished by Congress.

Only to married couples with the Father in the home...otherwise we have a generation of wards of the state.
No thanks...

 

[CO. Hoosier]

For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

A New Rallying Cry for the Irony-Poisoned Right

It took less than twenty-four hours after Trump’s reëlection for young men to take up a slogan that could define the coming era of gendered regression: “Your body, my choice.”

www.newyorker.com

That article is a crock. There might be GOP overconfidence, and I think many are reading too much into the election, but neither has anything to do with “Your body my choice”. That’s just BS. The clowns who wrote and published that article are a large reason why the Democrats lost and they don’t even understand it. The era of using sex or other immutable characteristics as a political cudgel could finally be over. This election showed most of the electorate is focused on issues that cut across all those lines. Safety, jobs, drugs, border, war. Etc.

 

[BradStevens]

Four things will happen:

1. Secure the border and deport the illegals
2. Rebuild the economy
3. Rebuild the military and stop the pointless wars
4. Burn the deep state to the ground

More than that obviously but those I can guarantee.

You’re going to guarantee that in 4 years Trump will “burn the deep state to the ground?”

How do you think he is going to do that? What measurable can we use to know if he accomplished that?

 

[BradStevens]

That article is a crock. There might be GOP overconfidence, and I think many are reading too much into the election, but neither has anything to do with “Your body my choice”. That’s just BS. The clowns who wrote and published that article are a large reason why the Democrats lost and they don’t even understand it. The era of using sex or other immutable characteristics as a political cudgel could finally be over. This election showed most of the electorate is focused on issues that cut across all those lines. Safety, jobs, drugs, border, war. Etc.

I’m not sure you understand my post or what people are worried about with the use of the phrase.

 

[Spartans9312]

Only to married couples with the Father in the home...otherwise we have a generation of wards of the state.
No thanks...

Policies will center on American families. That was the promise of the “new right”

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I am clearly no fan of Trump or the Trump fanboys, but here’s the major problem I see. The normal Rs that voted Trump want to see certain conservative policies implemented and serious attention to the deficit, inflation, etc. However Trump and the fanboys are much more interested in trolling and sticking their fingers in peoples eyes. They love to cackle and howl about pissing people off and don’t really care about actually accomplishing anything of importance. Mainly because they just don’t care about any of that.

Wow.. Just like it was said from the school yard bully that was giving wedgies, until someone came and gave the bully (the DNC) a shampoo in the toilet with his own panties wrapped around his ears.
I suspect that you all need to learn to reap what you have sewn for the last decade.
WE are incharge now. I hope you like the taste of toilet water. We don't want you to be dehydrated, we care after all.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Policies will center on American families. That was the promise of the “new right”

We can not be blamed for infantile parents being in charge of American Families. If the kids want to understand that their parents are nazi's and hate America... We will offer them better options, but not their POS left wing parents.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

That article is a crock. There might be GOP overconfidence, and I think many are reading too much into the election, but neither has anything to do with “Your body my choice”. That’s just BS. The clowns who wrote and published that article are a large reason why the Democrats lost and they don’t even understand it. The era of using sex or other immutable characteristics as a political cudgel could finally be over. This election showed most of the electorate is focused on issues that cut across all those lines. Safety, jobs, drugs, border, war. Etc.

I liked your post, even though I agree with the premise.
The 'Republican ' Party has no standards or redeeming social values to distinguish it from the discredited wreckage of the Democrat party. Today, the democrats have lost the Presidency, House, Senate and the Supreme Court has the most originalist component in decades.
If the Trump populist coalition chose to do so, and founded a third party, both of the 'main' parties would dry up and blow away.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Mandate and confidence don't matter. The GOP doesn't have the discipline to do what they want to do, and that's even discounting the fact that much of what they want to do is actually physically impossible. We're in for two more years of spinning wheels, nothing more.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Is Joe Hoopsier just Lucy with diarrhea of the mouth?

😴

 

[UncleMark]

Is Joe Hoopsier just Lucy with diarrhea of the mouth?

😴

I think Lucy has most of her marbles.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I’m not sure you understand my post or what people are worried about with the use of the phrase.

My take:

The GOP could over play its hand. Mostly agree. .

The “Your body my choice “ phrase is evidence of that. Don’t agree.

 

[BradStevens]

My take:

The GOP could over play its hand. Mostly agree. .

The “Your body my choice “ phrase is evidence of that. Don’t agree.

Do you understand how people posting that directly to women, or saying it to them, might freak them out?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Mandate and confidence don't matter. The GOP doesn't have the discipline to do what they want to do, and that's even discounting the fact that much of what they want to do is actually physically impossible. We're in for two more years of spinning wheels, nothing more.

I don’t know where you get this idea. Hegseth, Gaetz, Gabbard, Musk, Ramaswamy, Rubio, are all highly focused and single minded individuals. I think that translates to discipline assuming all take office. Some of them have also demonstrated an ability to be very effective— more discipline. Trumps picks are seismic. It remains to be seen if the resulting upheavals are limited. .

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

That article is a crock. There might be GOP overconfidence, and I think many are reading too much into the election, but neither has anything to do with “Your body my choice”. That’s just BS. The clowns who wrote and published that article are a large reason why the Democrats lost and they don’t even understand it. The era of using sex or other immutable characteristics as a political cudgel could finally be over. This election showed most of the electorate is focused on issues that cut across all those lines. Safety, jobs, drugs, border, war. Etc.

Nick Fuentes does not speak for the great majority of the alt-right.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Nick Fuentes does not speak for the great majority of the alt-right.

He’s part of the alt-right. What are you going to do with him?